So I do the suboxone thing when I need it and do my DOC(more often the DOC, then typically 1-3 days a week of subs, sometimes get by a week w/o it) you know the way all the people who use, used, or want to use it for recovery get angry about.
Now I usually only wait about 12 hours, sometimes less and most usually not more, 14 would be tops i'd say. Except the very first time I waited like 22 hours. Never got precipitated w/d. Have noticed times where I maybe felt a little worse for 1-2 hours then I felt good to go, very mild w/d symptoms at that point. I have switched now about 20 times. But its1/2&1/2 between different DOCs because mine changed like so many's do due to money issues.
It seems the last 4 times the Subs just are not doing as much for me, and I have tried upping the dose in accordance with my tolerance (probably more) with no positive results. Its kind of like when I take it at the 12 hour mark, it does nothing or very little, BUT it doesn't get worse throughout the day, just holds me in a state of early w/d's. So any thoughts on this,personal experiences or suggestions? Also I will add that m stomach is a wreck on Subs, I can barely eat. I have heard to spit the saliva instead of swallowing to help with this? But it seems more like the stomach pains from w/d, so I think the subs just don't act on the receptors that settle your stomach.
With all that being said, I am confident the week after next I am switching over to Subs fulltime and that is that. Naturally my insurance has been a nuisance regarding the issue, so I have to wait until it gets settled to see a MD again to make sure I can keep getting the Subs at a reasonable price. I will get my last big paycheck next week,before bills come in and I can't do it any longer. So I"m going to go out on a high note (pun intended) with next weeks appx 80 hours of pay(well about 53 straight and 18 @ x1.5). Then maybe I can focus on getting the job I desire that requires passing a hair follicle test (damn the inventor of that blasted thing).
Now I usually only wait about 12 hours, sometimes less and most usually not more, 14 would be tops i'd say. Except the very first time I waited like 22 hours. Never got precipitated w/d. Have noticed times where I maybe felt a little worse for 1-2 hours then I felt good to go, very mild w/d symptoms at that point. I have switched now about 20 times. But its1/2&1/2 between different DOCs because mine changed like so many's do due to money issues.
It seems the last 4 times the Subs just are not doing as much for me, and I have tried upping the dose in accordance with my tolerance (probably more) with no positive results. Its kind of like when I take it at the 12 hour mark, it does nothing or very little, BUT it doesn't get worse throughout the day, just holds me in a state of early w/d's. So any thoughts on this,personal experiences or suggestions? Also I will add that m stomach is a wreck on Subs, I can barely eat. I have heard to spit the saliva instead of swallowing to help with this? But it seems more like the stomach pains from w/d, so I think the subs just don't act on the receptors that settle your stomach.
With all that being said, I am confident the week after next I am switching over to Subs fulltime and that is that. Naturally my insurance has been a nuisance regarding the issue, so I have to wait until it gets settled to see a MD again to make sure I can keep getting the Subs at a reasonable price. I will get my last big paycheck next week,before bills come in and I can't do it any longer. So I"m going to go out on a high note (pun intended) with next weeks appx 80 hours of pay(well about 53 straight and 18 @ x1.5). Then maybe I can focus on getting the job I desire that requires passing a hair follicle test (damn the inventor of that blasted thing).
