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Benzos thought about camping in the woods for like a week to deal with valium withdraw

butcher22

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think that is a good or bad idea. i am very outdoorsy anyway and at least this way i wont blow up on my family or friends, plus i have a large collection of firearms and i am very responsible when it comes to guns but if i lose my mind during withdraw it would be too easy to suck on an AK-47. came very close a few times. solitude and the beauty of nature seems like it would be therapeutic. is there any reason that i shouldnt, considering i bring everything i need as far as food and water and all that good shit?
 
Well it depends on how bad your "addiction" was, but, honestly it sounds like a terrible idea. I mean only because it is (a) benzodiazepine(s) you are withdrawing from. With benzo dt's, they're is a risk of seizures, and if you have a significant physical dependence on benzos(either long term dependence or you we're taking large doses) then benzo withdrawal can be deadly.

But it depends, on your personal information. Their is simply not enough detail to give you a full answer. I mean if you had only a mild dependence, or even a moderate dependence for a short time, it is probably ok. But again you could have a seizure coming off of a high dose habit, and the long half-life of nordiazepam means full dr symptoms may be delayed.

So in the absence of more detail, the prudent advice is to hold off on something like this. Or perhaps use the trip to ween down to an extremely low "jumping off" dose. Luckily Valium isn't too potent, go down to 20mg per day, then 15, then 12.5, then 10, then 7.5, then 5 and maybe even 2.5, and jump.

But maybe you have already done this and I just sound stupid!
 
well, i started with xanax then k-pin and my doc cut me off so i buy from over seas but its so fucking expensive and i am disabled and after child support and my phone bill i am basically broke. i started taking valium because i heard it it is easier to taper off of. i havent have any horrible panic attacks since just taking 10mg of diazapam but if i skip a day i notice for sure. i have anxiety and depression and suicidal thoughts. i have an order coming in but its routed stupid and i dont know how long it will be until i get it. when i camp, at night at least i am totally chill. but now i live in an urban area so stealth camping might make me more paranoid
 
That is a horrible idea. Benzo withdrawal is potentially fatal, as it can cause seizures, etc. Being out in the woods alone, far away from a hospital... that is perhaps the worst idea ever. Hah. I could maybe see this with opiate withdrawal, as it is not life threatening, but not for something like benzo withdrawal, no way.

Ideally, you should be supervised in an inpatient setting with doctors there to treat you if your BP skyrockets, prevent seizures, etc.

Didn't we already talk about your detox in your other thread and you said you were just going to spread out 10mg's of valium until your script gets refiled? How did you go from that, to detoxing cold turkey for a week in the woods?

Whatever you do.. don't do that.
 
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Yeah once you get through the acute phase, if you want to go out there to chill and level out, find some peace, whatever, then go for it. But only after the acute-withdrawal phase is over and you are out of danger.
 
Basically what the guy above me said. Withdrawal from benzo, alcohol, barbiturates or any gabagenics can cause life threatening symptoms so you need to be somewhere where you can get to a hospital if you need to.But by all means after the acute phase is over go camping or whatever to give yourself a break from everything. I like getting away like that myself but no way would i trust myself with a gun while going through any kind of withdrawal. So go fishing or something and leave the firearms at home.
 
Cannot echo what Mr.Scagnattie and paranoid android have already said, and stress what a bad idea that is. I couldn't think of anything worse than being away from home comforts whilst going through w/d. Not to mention, as aforementioned, that benzodiazepine w/d has the potential to be fatal, or if not, quite literally, torture.
 
Haha i laughed reading the first line of Mr S's
Post I was thinking the same thing but it reminded me when I was in detox and this guy kept saying he wanted to leave and how they need more pictures on the wall and whatnot every time we had group or AA meeting he was just making excuses for why he shouldn't stay. He said one meeting I think the only way for me to get off heroin is to go out to the woods and chop down trees with an axe and camp out for a week while detoxing. I remember this Chinese guy who could barely speak English looked at him like he was retarded and said how you gonna chop down tree when you dope sick?!
For some reason the way he said it I l laughed pretty dam hard in the middle of the AA meeting cause u thought it was hilarious.
Good times in detox haha

But yea I don't think detoxing in the forest away from help is a good idea especially when detoxing from something that's known to cause seizures and death from abrupt cessation of use.
 
I like the idea but wait till the acute phase is out of the way. I could see myself doing this after about 5 days without heroin.
 
heroin sounds extremely appealing to me but i cant really get it where i live. i want something that will just make me melt into my chair or bed
 
This is bad idea. U should just come clean to Ur doc and work out a taper plan. I just did that I am on a high dose of diazepam once daily and will be dropping 2.5 mgs per month maybe 5 one month and 1-2 thé next....that sort of thing
 
butcher22 said:
heroin sounds extremely appealing to me but i cant really get it where i live. i want something that will just make me melt into my chair or bed
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Yeah it will sound good until you have a habit to feed. Then it will turn from fun to just another thing you need to live pretty quickly.
 
paranoid android said:
Yeah it will sound good until you have a habit to feed. Then it will turn from fun to just another thing you need to live pretty quickly.
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Haha ya really I kinda chuckled when I read that.
If only he knew the misery that comes from being an opiate addict
 
I can not think of anything more torturous than going through W/D in a dirty ass tent in the freezing cold night with nothing to distract me or comfort me and no communication or support. Fuck that the boredom and anxiety would be epic. Not to mention how DIRTY your ass would feel with no shower/comforts of home.
 
BigSlick said:
I can not think of anything more torturous than going through W/D in a dirty ass tent in the freezing cold night with nothing to distract me or comfort me and no communication or support. Fuck that the boredom and anxiety would be epic. Not to mention how DIRTY your ass would feel with no shower/comforts of home.
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I think all the energy it would take to cut wood and build a fire so you could cook and eat would exhaust me enough to be able to sleep.
 
^^^^its kinda hard to set up a campsite and chop up wood when your choking on your own vomit and shitting your pants. Being dope sick your always so exhausted you don't need to work to feel that way but it doesn't matter how much you feel exhausted you will never sleep naturally while dope sick.
 
I have done this type of rehab when i kicked opiates.
Stayed in a tent 4 days but i had a cooler full of goodies, a truck, for a/c and radio.
and a cell phone for porn :)
 
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