Bojangles69
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This past week something rather extreme happened to my body and it has scared me quite a bit that sub is causing it.
Basically from what I can see is that sub stimulates most people at lower doses. I'd have to say 4-6mg is the lower dose cut off. And I've seen people on higher doses say that it makes them very sleepy, to the point where they can sleep 12 hours at night, take a 2 hour nap during the day, then go right back to bed at night with no problem.
Thats definitely not my case however.
But I'm speaking to people who have a prescription for sub and have been on it longer than a couple of months.
I noticed this specifically about sub.
Sub extends my days. It extends them from a normal 24 hour time frame to 36 hours roughly. And let me explain what I mean.
If I take a dose of sub at noon, come night time I can NOT sleep. That dose will make it impossible to sleep till about till around 4am. Then I will want to sleep as late as possible. Usually till about 2pm. Once I wake up. I know my body wants to go till about 4-6am before it needs sleep again. That was how it was at least the first couple of months. I had to be awake longer on sub to get to sleep, and I had to sleep longer on sub before I felt awake again. If our days were 36 hours long I feel my body could adjust precisely, but because they are not, lately I've been suffering.
And now I fear that the sub has built up in my system so much over these few months, that I'm now always in a state of stimulation/sleepiness.
This last week I had work ok. Usually don't work till around 3pm. So I dose my sub around noon as I like to feel it when I'm at work obviously to get through the day in a weird but quiet sub zombie mode (I talked a ton the first couple weeks on sub now I barely talk at all I've noticed).
But I'd take the noon dose, come home from work around 11pm, and still be wide awake. So much so that sleep wasn't even an *option* till about 4am. And I found recently this week now, I lay down at 4am, and still can't sleep. To the point where I start to dose in and out of sleep around 10am, may pass out for 2-3 hours and then I have to get up and start getting ready for work.
Whatever is going on Im feeling sub has built up so much over these few months that my body is always slightly stimulated from it at night, and the tired feeling is from the lack of sleep not the sub itself.
So this last week I went to work every friggn night with only 2-3hours of sleep. By later in the week I was a fucking zombie. My body couldn't sleep cause it was always so stimulated on one level from the sub. I believed once my body just got ridicuously tired, from say 2-3 days of just a couple hours of sleep a night... that it would finally get a full 8-10 hours of sleep and I'd feel good again. Well for everyday I had work since I couldn't fall asleep till right before I was do in, thats when I realized that on sub I'm awake much longer, and I also sleep much longer, to the realm of a 36hour day.
And I can not go through another week like this. These 2 days I had off I sleep about 14 hours both days. Because I was able to fall asleep w/out worrying about work during the day.
Now howeever look at my position. I have work tommorow at 2pm, its 4pm right now and I just woke up.
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO?
Should I just stop dosing for the day? If I dose 4mgs now, I will NOT SLEEP again period the end. 4am will roll around and I'll be wide awake. Then I'll start doing morning chores and feel somewhat sleepy, knowing if I lay down I won't sleep at all cause of how long the sub actually stimulates my body. Its always my mind that wears away first. My vision gets fuzzy, I can't respond quickly, but still my body will feel stimulated from the sub.
This is damn near close to being on speed afaic. I'd take a dose and need to be up for a looong time before sleep was possible again. Maybe fall alseep around the 24hour mark, sleep for 16 hours etc. Sub isn't that extreme but still this is a FACT that its extending my normal day sleep/wake cycle. And trying to adjust to a 24 hour day is impossible.
I don't want to lose my job so I'm hoping a decrease in dose will get me back to normal, as well as more proper sleep hygiene. But in the last week I must have slept about a total of 10 hours the whole week. Then my 2 days off I slept 14 hours each day.
I can't live like this and if anyone has this effect where the feel like sub extends your natural day, please let me know. I think the build up of sub in your blood just makes it worse. As I didn't have this happen till after I was on it a few months, and realized I just couldn't sleep no matter what time it was. And the only time I'd get sleepy was right before work, so I never slept.
God why can't opiates just be simple?
Basically from what I can see is that sub stimulates most people at lower doses. I'd have to say 4-6mg is the lower dose cut off. And I've seen people on higher doses say that it makes them very sleepy, to the point where they can sleep 12 hours at night, take a 2 hour nap during the day, then go right back to bed at night with no problem.
Thats definitely not my case however.
But I'm speaking to people who have a prescription for sub and have been on it longer than a couple of months.
I noticed this specifically about sub.
Sub extends my days. It extends them from a normal 24 hour time frame to 36 hours roughly. And let me explain what I mean.
If I take a dose of sub at noon, come night time I can NOT sleep. That dose will make it impossible to sleep till about till around 4am. Then I will want to sleep as late as possible. Usually till about 2pm. Once I wake up. I know my body wants to go till about 4-6am before it needs sleep again. That was how it was at least the first couple of months. I had to be awake longer on sub to get to sleep, and I had to sleep longer on sub before I felt awake again. If our days were 36 hours long I feel my body could adjust precisely, but because they are not, lately I've been suffering.
And now I fear that the sub has built up in my system so much over these few months, that I'm now always in a state of stimulation/sleepiness.
This last week I had work ok. Usually don't work till around 3pm. So I dose my sub around noon as I like to feel it when I'm at work obviously to get through the day in a weird but quiet sub zombie mode (I talked a ton the first couple weeks on sub now I barely talk at all I've noticed).
But I'd take the noon dose, come home from work around 11pm, and still be wide awake. So much so that sleep wasn't even an *option* till about 4am. And I found recently this week now, I lay down at 4am, and still can't sleep. To the point where I start to dose in and out of sleep around 10am, may pass out for 2-3 hours and then I have to get up and start getting ready for work.
Whatever is going on Im feeling sub has built up so much over these few months that my body is always slightly stimulated from it at night, and the tired feeling is from the lack of sleep not the sub itself.
So this last week I went to work every friggn night with only 2-3hours of sleep. By later in the week I was a fucking zombie. My body couldn't sleep cause it was always so stimulated on one level from the sub. I believed once my body just got ridicuously tired, from say 2-3 days of just a couple hours of sleep a night... that it would finally get a full 8-10 hours of sleep and I'd feel good again. Well for everyday I had work since I couldn't fall asleep till right before I was do in, thats when I realized that on sub I'm awake much longer, and I also sleep much longer, to the realm of a 36hour day.
And I can not go through another week like this. These 2 days I had off I sleep about 14 hours both days. Because I was able to fall asleep w/out worrying about work during the day.
Now howeever look at my position. I have work tommorow at 2pm, its 4pm right now and I just woke up.
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO?
Should I just stop dosing for the day? If I dose 4mgs now, I will NOT SLEEP again period the end. 4am will roll around and I'll be wide awake. Then I'll start doing morning chores and feel somewhat sleepy, knowing if I lay down I won't sleep at all cause of how long the sub actually stimulates my body. Its always my mind that wears away first. My vision gets fuzzy, I can't respond quickly, but still my body will feel stimulated from the sub.
This is damn near close to being on speed afaic. I'd take a dose and need to be up for a looong time before sleep was possible again. Maybe fall alseep around the 24hour mark, sleep for 16 hours etc. Sub isn't that extreme but still this is a FACT that its extending my normal day sleep/wake cycle. And trying to adjust to a 24 hour day is impossible.
I don't want to lose my job so I'm hoping a decrease in dose will get me back to normal, as well as more proper sleep hygiene. But in the last week I must have slept about a total of 10 hours the whole week. Then my 2 days off I slept 14 hours each day.
I can't live like this and if anyone has this effect where the feel like sub extends your natural day, please let me know. I think the build up of sub in your blood just makes it worse. As I didn't have this happen till after I was on it a few months, and realized I just couldn't sleep no matter what time it was. And the only time I'd get sleepy was right before work, so I never slept.
God why can't opiates just be simple?
