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This thread is for people who dont like weed

Originally posted by asianfreek:
im not gonna say that any drug is better than any other because ive tried all kinds and enjoyed them all BUT marijuana IS a NATURALLY GROWING PLANT and i would choose it over chemicals that were made in a lab and that could possibly kill you because the guy who made them accidently or purposely made them wrong...
Yeah thats great logic man. The fact that the reason you smoke weed is to get THC into your body hasn't crossed your mind then. THC IS A CHEMICAL JUST LIKE ALL OTHER DRUGS.
That "Its natural so its ok" arguement is very flawed. Its like people who do shrooms but not acid, because "its a chemical".
[ 12 January 2003: Message edited by: mashmetaller ]
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DUHHH
THC is a chemical, but its a naturally occuring chemical, not a chemical made in a lab, and THC also cant kill you.
When i talk about "chemicals", im talking about synthetic chemicals that are in no way natural.
[ 13 January 2003: Message edited by: asianfreek ]
 
i hate dope, weed what ever the fuck you want to call it.
my mum has smoked since i was born, everyday. i will now make a list the beautiful things i got to see as a child because of her laziness and stupidity and paranio
1. i wasnt allowed any friends over from school cus everyone knew my mum was on drugs
2. i wasnt allowed to go to any friends over cus my mum was drugs
3. the house was always a filthy, unhigienic (ill learn to spell one day!) pig stye.
4.my dad fucked off and left us nothing because of her stupidity
5. always one less bedroom in the house so her plants had somewhere to grow.
6. always, nearly everyday late for school, every day humilated because of her laziness
7. breakfast: asleep, lunch, none because she forgot, dinner: canned spaghetti
8. when i was a teenager becuase of lack of authority i could have run fucking wild and got myself into all sorts of shit. lucky i am fucking intelligent and i knew better than that.
9. never any new clothes or toys, to her they werent important
10. being told unscrupulous and ridicoul ideas about authority and the way that the universe works.
11. the worst - not being able to love your own mother because you dont understand how someone, at my age of 20 could put their child through all of this jsut becuase she had a drug problem
12. watching her get beaten by different men because of lack of respect for her own body
i could go on.
but ill leave you with one last thought
my earliest childhood memory ?
cutting the grass outside, i was about 5 years old and placing it in her bag of dope hoping that if she got sick from the grass outside, she would never touch it again. five years old, trying to get your mum off drugs ? pathetic
 
Originally posted by Tradeskilz:
Oh and a gang of potheads beat the shit out of a friend of mine because he was dealing speed which they considered being a "junke" drug that they didnt want in their town. Fuck them.

the only thing i hate more than weed is FUCKING TWEEKERS.. weed makes people lazy and boring.. but speed makes people shady fiends who steal my goddamn $600 car stereo! grr. im glad i moved, in my old town you couldnt have anything fucking nice in your car or it was only a matter of time before some crackhead stole it. and yes im 100% positive tweekers stole my stereo, and 5 of my friends stereos..
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I don't like weed. I get paranoid, my mind races but with weird shit and dumb shit, not like when I am on E (when my mind races with awesome stuff). When I am stoned I say stupid stuff and feel retarded and just want to eat cheetos. The only good thing about weed is if you want to get rid of a migraine or if you want to have a big orgasm (but the whole time I am paranoid as well and on the verge of a panic attack) Plus I feel more of a weed hangover than I do from any other drug.
 
I absolutely cannot stand it when I encounter potheads who smoke EVERY DAY, and then lecture me about the evils of drugs.
This dude was like, "dont you know how they make coke? they take all these household chemicals and dump them into a bucket and it's just nasty man"
i replied, "you don't even know what you're talking about, but i sure wish coke was made that easily!" He then starts talking about how children in Colombia are exploited.. it was pretty funny.
I was just pissed because he was sort of an uninvited guest at a party, and he didn't say anything except for insulting 'our' drugs when we weren't even talking about pot. I just told him to basically fuck off because his drug doesn't do anything for me (literally) and mine wasn't hurting him. Plus, i was really irritated at his insinuation that doing pot everyday is just ducky while doing coke on occasion is HORRIBLE and promoting slave labor. LOL
i don't claim that my drugs are better .. ever.. if i could get high like everybody else i'd probably smoke it more.. but I don't, so leave me alone! :D
 
Originally posted by asianfreek:
DUHHH
THC is a chemical, but its a naturally occuring chemical, not a chemical made in a lab, and THC also cant kill you.
When i talk about "chemicals", im talking about synthetic chemicals that are in no way natural.

ANY substance can kill you in high enough levels. MDMA, Speed, LSD, Alcohol, THC, Lactose, Water. Give someone enough of any chemical and they will die. It just so happens things like THC have a much higher LD50 level. But then I've a friend would can die from a small amount of Lactose (the sugar in milk if you weren't sure), but he can and does smoke weed, pill, tweak and shroom.
By your logic you'd rather be takeing Coke or morphine than speed or E? Coke and Morphine are the same as THC, both found in plants and are just purified out.
Nature can produce a lot of chemicals that are highly dangerous. Just because a plant or animal lives somewhere on the planet that makes this chemical doesn't mean its any safer than man made ones. After all, our bodies weren't designed to take most of these chemicals in, manmade or nature. I doubt our bodies care where this foreign substance came from, all it knows is that this substance is screwing with its natural state and should be removed ASAP or serious damage/death could occur.
A chemical is a chemical. Doesn't matter how its made.
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i forget who wrote about people they knew who had no motivation and life and put weed in front of everything...well those people are addicted. any thing can be addicting. those people would be addicted to something else if it was pot. and i firmly believe this.
 
I smoke on and off but do not consider myself to be a self rightous overwelming pothead. I agree with alot of the stuff people have said though and everyone knows the annoying burnouts who give the non annoying burnouts a bad name, however this is the case with most drug user stereotypes. There are the tweekers, the crackheads junkies, psuedo intelectual( i cant spell ) trippers, bad drunks. The list goes on. But I really dont care for the whole weed subculture thing, not my deal but each to there own.
 
Some stoners might be lazy, slow and stupid but I really think most of the blame has to do with the person and not the weed. I only smoke weed once and a while (more in the summer). If I'm staying in for the night I love to smoke a bowl by myself and reflect on life and then watch the Simpsons or download music. I love weed ! It doesn't make me less motivated at all, I rarley stress out, and I'm much more creative. Weed allows me to fully relax after a busy week and enjoy the simple things in life. I used to do a lot of stimulants and believe you me, I'm a much better person when I smoke weed and feel much better (not so depressed and edgy).
 
so how much weed would you have to smoke until you die? and yes, i would rather take coke or morphine than speed or e. i would also rather eat pure animal meat than genetically fucked up meat, although we all probably eat something genetically fucked with anyway.
 
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I cant remember the figure, but I remember reading that it would be impossible to OD from eating weed, because your body cant digest fast enough. By the time You'd eaten enough actual THC to kill you the origional stuff you ate would be well gone from your system.
I assume that before you actualy OD'd from smoking it, you'd just pass out. Anyway if you smoke enough of any smoke you'll end up being sick. Lungs aren't desighned for smoking.
I think it would be almost impossible to OD from weed. And I think I remember reading its impossible to inject pure THC which would seem like a logical way of trying do to so.
I think Im going to go challenge some of my cainer friends to OD on weed!!! It would be worth witnessing!
 
I hate weed conversations for this exact reason. You have all the potheads to defend it like its religion. Then you have everyone else who hates it with a passion.
fact 1. marijuana is a drug, get over it pot heads. It's a drug and its an addicting drug. period.
fact 2. Anyone who injects heroin, or smokes crack, or drops acid, or takes rolls has NO right to bash those who smoke pot merely cuz you don't like it. YOU ARE ALL DOING DRUGS REGARDLESS OF THE CHEMICAL! You've got your freedom of speach to allow you to do so, but you all act all high and mighty like you are special because you prefer to do stimulants or whatever other chemical you are into.
I don't smoke pot, I've done it, I don't like smoking in general, so I prefer to stay away from it. In my opinion, its an 'ok' high, but it stays in my system too long.
I don't however become close minded enough to judge other people for having a specific preference. I don't go into the OD forum and call everyone a bunch of speed addicts and heroin addicts, I don't go into psychedelic forums and call everyone a bunch of acid head hippies, I don't go into ecstasy discussion and call everyone a bunch of etards.
This is kinda directed at a few specific people, not everyone since I know some of you are good about this.
My point is, it's cool to like weed, its cool not to like weed, if you do/don't explain why you do, but do it without bashing other people just because they don't agree with you.
I swear you're all so judgemental sometimes...
anyway I'm done with my rant :)
trippies
 
For those few who think I'm 'aggressive and rude', you obviously don't know me well (check out my work in my forums).I have always felt strongly about a variety of topics and if some people misinterpret that in a solely negative way, then they're missing the point.
im not gonna say that any drug is better than any other because ive tried all kinds and enjoyed them all BUT marijuana IS a NATURALLY GROWING PLANT and i would choose it over chemicals that were made in a lab and that could possibly kill you because the guy who made them accidently or purposely made them wrong...
To sum up AlphaNumeric: Hemlock occurs naturally too! Would you eat THAT?
I guess what really upsets me about the weed smokers is how chill they are....TOO chill. I mean, a comatose person is REALLY DAMN CHILL...but boring as fuck. I won't say that weed smokers can be compared to people in comas, but I cannot help but notice that weed DULLS the intensity and vivacity of so many of those who smoke it. It's really sad to watch people I care about lose so much of what I like about them every time they smoke.
I like PASSION, INTENSITY, and INTELLECTUAL DRIVE. Those are the elements I value most, and the ones I see disappear when someone lights up a joint. And that is fundamentally why I have a deep hatred for weed.
[ 16 January 2003: Message edited by: fairnymph ]
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lickable_lucy, sounds like you mother was mad and bad to start with.
You can't blame a drug for her behaviour.
Infact the drug was probably a symptom of her mental problems.
I know from personal family experiance that peoplr like taht tend to reach out to drugs as an escape. The answer for questions 1 - 10 was she was off her trolley.
 
eh.
i come from a household where my mother grew pot. and she was the best damn mum in the world, ensuring that my brother & sister & i grew up aware, informed, educated, happy & productive.
it's horses for courses, i suppose.
one thing i do dislike about the different opinions expressed in this thread is the incessant compartmentalizing that goes on - you're either this, or that, or It... i think trippies' post was by far the most sensible.
i'm a daily pot smoker who's injected drugs regularly, has short hair, plays the violin & guitar & djs, is studying history at one of the best universities in the country & working shitty jobs to buy schmoke...
amotivated? lazy? sure, whatever. i've worked 90 hour weeks & still found time to socialise & make music & see the world.
anti-social? well, i think some stoners are. but it depends what you're getting together for - are you really only meeting your friends to get high, or is smoking a pleasant accompaniment to good conversation?
stupid? i think not. i suppose for some people it might negatively affect their ability to think critically, but not for me.
it really depends on the user - at the end of the day, pot doesn't do anything, people do. i've seen people become selfish poverty-stricken cretinous imbeciles because of the bong, but i've also seen how many successful people partake in the herb.
 
As usual, I fond myself forced to agree with the good doctor. Well said.
I do love how people like to put people in pigeonholes according to what drug they enjoy. But then I suppose that's no different to categorising people according to what clothes they wear, or what music they listen to. Why would Bluelighters be any different to the rest of the world.
I'm off home to get stoned and be amotivational - night all :D
 
Fairnymph, was that question directed toward Alpha or me because i made that comment.
anyway, you must admit that was a dumb question. hemlock is poisonous and weed isnt, ummmmmm duh???
were talking about natural, common drugs that millions of people use around the world and you bring up some poisonous plant? i smoke weed to get high, and ill eat some hemlock if i was suicidal and wanted to die or become really sick.
 
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