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This batch of 'ice' is sus lol. it feels like 4mar again... :)

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OND43X

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Hey guys remember 'the great methylaminorex is back debate' over a year or so back?

If you forgot or are new to bluelight basically a few BL's believed the 'ice' they had purchased felt more like 4mar than crystal meth, which you'd expect to get when purchasing 'ice', but not like anyone would complain if they did lol.

'footscrazy' was the first i believe to post some test results. Results showed that the 'suspect' crystals were defineatly not methamphetamine, but gave positive reactions for methylaminorex.

For awhile this stuff seemed to be pretty much all over the place with many BL's posting their experiences and testing results. Then boom it just seemed to disappear and no-one talking about it.... Well...

This latest batch of 'ice' i purchased here in sydney to me feels like 4mar again. Its hard to explain but maybe someone gets this same feeling i do too. its not until the next day or so that your brain says 'hey this stuff was different'

well the first thing that looked abit different was the appearance of the crystals. They were more thin and long (like rice) than the usual rock or large shards.

This stuff also crackled more loudly than usual meth/ice.

Produced what look like thicker and heavier looking smoke.

When the puddle recrystalises it seemed to go a greyish colour which isnt the norm.

The effects, (simular effects as mentioned on this site before) basically ive only puffed afew times and its now 48hours or so.

This stuff is very simular to when ive been on some really good meth, i dont get the urges to keep redosing.

My mental capacity and my ability to function the next day were alot better than the norm.

do not have jaw issues like on meth but sure have been just as dehydrated as the times on meth previously

not as 'fucK' crazed like when on meth too.

I do not have any testers, i wish someone lived near me that did so i could get this batch tested. have taken some pics and will link and post some.
It could be just really good meth, but i dont get my brain telling me noticeable differences (so to speak, its hard to explain) and my instincts telling me that it feels like 4mar again, whenever i have really good meth. Last time it felt simular was last year or so during 'the great methyaminoex is back bebate' lol.

I hope my gut instincts are correct... Not all doom and gloom twithall these busts. There May be good things to still come...

:)
 
^ see if you can get a reagent test on it asap if you're that concerned. 4-MAR will have no colour change but will bubble/fizz a little with marquis. I'm not sure about the mandelin, simons, robadope reactions though but footscrazy or one of our other resident chemistry gurus may be able to shed some light. :)
 
I've only done positive tests with marquis - suffice to say it was on the same stuff reported by footscrazy. I've never done a test with mandelin but i'd be quick to assume it should probably give no reaction.

I'd be inclined to say it shouldn't give a reaction with simons or robadope as it's a tertiary amine.
 
I haven't retained much memory from my puffing days so I honestly can't remember any reaction the 4 mar had except with marquis (the one I posted up, bubbling but no colour change).

I wouldn't be surprised if 4 mar makes a come back since it's a different synth than methamphetamine, and those ingredients may be easier to source currently.
 
so OND43X u should send out sample packs of this 4mar to the BL puffers collective. So everyone can decide if its actual 4mar or not ;P
 
headdah said:
so OND43X u should send out sample packs of this 4mar to the BL puffers collective. So everyone can decide if its actual 4mar or not ;P
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lol something like that you'd think come close to beating the shortest time period for any post/comment in BL. It would embarress the times for a comment filled with swaskikas, beastiality pics and the best meat-cuts vagina slang in the jewish women for protection of animals forum, easy... bluelight world record is tempting lol...
 
**Peterpellet **
the initial effects for me are very simular with the two.
scienstists/chemists/***ist report 4mar has a longer duration than crystal meth and the dosage amount needed is smaller for 4mar too.

I notice big differences between them in the hours 10+, 24+ after consuming. Meth in the hours after to 24 hours your either wasting time on pointless shit you believe was the greatest idea at the time, or focused on sex or fucking or pornos. 4 mar at this stage the brain functions better and this is around the time i get my brain sending me thoughts telling me it feels like 4mar, this aint meth etc. 4mar opens up my emotions and thougt Whereas meth to me makes me chase after impules or self desires/interests, wants, more focused on onething.

The crash with meth for me ivoles more anger. Either at myself or easily aggitated. 4mar does this for me but with an emotial twist. I have currently been up since sunday night n havent been able to test or sleep nbut i am going to try now bye.
 
peterpellet said:
this stuff looks like the "crystal" my mates were getting,

is it better/worse than meth?
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I wouldn't say it's better or worse, just a bit different. Honestly 99% of people wouldn't notice the difference until you point it out to them, they'd just put it down to the usual variance between batches.
 
It's important to keep in mind that the LD50 of 4 MAR is much lower than for methamphetamine, due to 4 MAR's serotonergic action. For a 60kg person the LD50 is only one gram, so it's important to keep track of how much you're going through.
 
footscrazy said:
It's important to keep in mind that the LD50 of 4 MAR is much lower than for methamphetamine, due to 4 MAR's serotonergic action. For a 60kg person the LD50 is only one gram, so it's important to keep track of how much you're going through.
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You would think by around 900mg you would notice the massive stress on your heart/body/brain.

Just dosing too high on 4-mar can be pretty uncomfortable as is.
 
i find it when u dose too much of 4mar u become too straight? like ur head is super super clear headed. doesn't even feel like you are on anything at all, yet you might be on your day 4/5. It just feels like you've had a wicked 8hr nap or so after a pipe lol
 
Compare the subjective and objective similarities. ^ agree sorta, clear headed and imo (from what I remember) Made me like a genius... could do anything smarts wise....lol now my brain is fried and I never been the cluiest of cunts.
 
Jakeperson said:
You would think by around 900mg you would notice the massive stress on your heart/body/brain.

Just dosing too high on 4-mar can be pretty uncomfortable as is.
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Unfortunately a lot of people just take this as part of the high, especially if they're long term users. My tolerance was so high that for me to 'feel' high, my body would usually feel very uncomfortable. Addiction and the desire to feel high will usually take precendence over uncomfortable physical sensations.
 
hmmmmmmmm. this 4mar crazy might have landed its shores to A-town yo....


bought a half friday night. 2p was for antoher mate. so i had 3ps. its lasted me from fri - mondaynight. finally got some clonaz then. sorta forced my self to sleep. had about 4hr sleep.

woke up. Tweaked as mofo. not sketchy tweak, but 4mar sharp concentration tweak.

pitty i got none left or else i'd have reagent tested that shit.

;D
 
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