kanyeknievel
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Hey everyone
I have been reading a bunch of threads where people are warning others to not go on subxone, and I can agree to not do so either.. if you do then for a month at the most. You WILL withdrawal one day, you are just prolonging it.
But almost everyone who tends to want to get off opaites goes straight to Suboxone, and anyone who goes on Suboxone will continue using it for months, years, etc. afraid to withdrawal.
Well... THERE IS HOPE FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING SUBOXONE FOR A LONG TIME AND CAN'T STOP & THOSE WHO WANT TO STOP OPIATES WITHOUT SUBXONE.
I introduce you to Kratom.
Many people may already know about this miracle plant, but most do not and should be informed. To get the very basis, Kratom is a naturally growing plant in parts of Asia such as Indonesia. It is a leaf that natives would chew to get stimulated. It is also harvested and ground into power or dried leafs.
This miracle plane IS YOUR ANSWER AND YOUR HOPE! It is the SUBXONE/METHADONE of nature.
How do I know this and how do I know it will get you off suboxone? Because I am one of thousands who have gotten off suboxone with the aid of Kratom.
• People who are on suboxone, this is what you want to do. You want to find a REPUTABLE AND QUALITY vendor for BULK Kratom (not that bullshit you find at headshops). There are a bunch of different strains with slightly varying effects, such as Cannabis is. But whichever you pick, it doesn't matter.
o After ordering the Kratom and having the powder on standby, you want to stop taking Suboxone completely until you are as far as you can handle withdrawals. AT THIS POINT you want to take your Kratom. Kratom doses for heavy to light opiate users, and there are many guide on the internet for appropriate doses.
o Once you have gone into withdrawal, you then want to take the desired amount of Kratom and either
: A. Put it into a safe material to parchute with, such as rolling papers
. B. Toss and Wash -> Tilt your head back and let the liquid (something with a good,stronger taste since this stuff tastes nasty and is dry as fell.) pool in the back of your mouth/throat. Then pour the kratom from a spoon onto the pool of liquid in your mouth and swallow . Then do a chaser of whatever drink just incase you tasted some of it.
C. Brew the Kratom into a tea. This can be time consuming and tedious, but many people like it as a tea and like throwing other herbs into the mixture as well. I personally have NOT brewed Kratom tea or drank it because it is too much work for less results. By parachuting or Toss n Washing, you are utilizing ALL alkaloids the Kratom contains.
• Now that you have done this, you should still be in withdrawal until the Kratom starts to take effect . You may need to dose more than once if you are still feeling withdrawally , as you may not have used enough. You will now notice ALL MAJOR WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS ARE GONE!
Not 100% gone, the first 3 days are still a TINY TINY BIT withdrawlly, but you can barely tell. You won't have RSL, hot/cold flashes, cold sweats, diareeha, puking, etc.
When I decided to try it, I gave all my hopes into it to work, I felt like a slave to suboxone at the time. Doing just what I had to do when I was using opiates. Take it every day to not withdrawal, and if I didn't have it.. I would be screwed. So I saw it as something that needed to be stopped, but I was afraid of withdrawals and I stumbled upon Kratom. I immediately looked up as many reviews and forum postings about " KRATOM FOR WITHDRAWAL " "KRATOM FOR SUBXONE WITHDRAWAL" etc. to get as many positive results to establish hope in me. I then stopped suboxone for a day , day and a half.. then with all my heart I took Kratom hoping it will do what I read... and IT DID.
I was shocked and so happy. I stopped withdrawling, didn't withdrawal, only very minor symptoms the first couple days, but it took all the withdrawals away! I was amazed that this plant is not publicized or talked about more, but I believe that the pharmacudeical companies that produce Suboxone, Subutex, Methadone, etc. Don't want you to know about it or they would lose millions. There are even laws in some stats BANNING this HARMLESS plant for no reason. I read a post by a cop that lived in a state that banned Kratom, he said he didn't want to take pills for his pain, and wrote letters to the governor of the state multiple times with no reply. NO REPLY TO A POLICE OFFICER IN YOUR STATE!
To summarize everything:
• DO NOT GO ON SUBOXONE IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET OFF HEROIN/PILLS SOON. CHOOSE KRATOM.
• IF YOU ARE ON SUBOXONE AND FEEL LIKE A SLAVE TO IT AND HOPELESS TO GETTING OFF IT, PURCHASE AND USE KRATOM
This works for ANY opiate and I highly highly suggest it. A year worth of Kratom vs a year worth of suboxone, you are practically paying a FRACTION of the cost for stopping withdrawals and getting off prescription meds.
NOW ... Even those this DOES WORK (for almost everyone) I am not at ALL advocating making the switch to Kratom just to replace your pill and suboxone with something else. It STILL is an addictive substance in ways and most people who go on it tend to stay on it. I have been ordering it for the past year because I don't want to withdrawal and I like it... I don't like taking subxone.. not knowing what damage or adverse effects it gives me and will give me as I keep taking it. I much rather take a plant that can also give either Stimulation, Relaxation/Sedation, Nootrpic effects , or pain .
So , I am warning that only that there is a large chance you will replace suboxone with kratom and take it everyday for a long while, but Kratom has much more benefits and less side-effects , as well as the cost. If I can use a plant, unaltered, to take away withdrawals and also give me stimulating effects.. I am going with that.
With all that said and done... PLEASE LOOK AND RESEARCH INTO KRATOM IF YOU ARE THINKING OF GOING ON BUPE OR ON BUPE AND FEEL HOPELESS!!! IT WORKED FOR ME AND THOUSANDS MORE AND MOST LIKELY YOU! Trust me, I was just as skeptical as all of you were.
I have been reading a bunch of threads where people are warning others to not go on subxone, and I can agree to not do so either.. if you do then for a month at the most. You WILL withdrawal one day, you are just prolonging it.
But almost everyone who tends to want to get off opaites goes straight to Suboxone, and anyone who goes on Suboxone will continue using it for months, years, etc. afraid to withdrawal.
Well... THERE IS HOPE FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING SUBOXONE FOR A LONG TIME AND CAN'T STOP & THOSE WHO WANT TO STOP OPIATES WITHOUT SUBXONE.
I introduce you to Kratom.
Many people may already know about this miracle plant, but most do not and should be informed. To get the very basis, Kratom is a naturally growing plant in parts of Asia such as Indonesia. It is a leaf that natives would chew to get stimulated. It is also harvested and ground into power or dried leafs.
This miracle plane IS YOUR ANSWER AND YOUR HOPE! It is the SUBXONE/METHADONE of nature.
How do I know this and how do I know it will get you off suboxone? Because I am one of thousands who have gotten off suboxone with the aid of Kratom.
• People who are on suboxone, this is what you want to do. You want to find a REPUTABLE AND QUALITY vendor for BULK Kratom (not that bullshit you find at headshops). There are a bunch of different strains with slightly varying effects, such as Cannabis is. But whichever you pick, it doesn't matter.
o After ordering the Kratom and having the powder on standby, you want to stop taking Suboxone completely until you are as far as you can handle withdrawals. AT THIS POINT you want to take your Kratom. Kratom doses for heavy to light opiate users, and there are many guide on the internet for appropriate doses.
o Once you have gone into withdrawal, you then want to take the desired amount of Kratom and either
: A. Put it into a safe material to parchute with, such as rolling papers
. B. Toss and Wash -> Tilt your head back and let the liquid (something with a good,stronger taste since this stuff tastes nasty and is dry as fell.) pool in the back of your mouth/throat. Then pour the kratom from a spoon onto the pool of liquid in your mouth and swallow . Then do a chaser of whatever drink just incase you tasted some of it.
C. Brew the Kratom into a tea. This can be time consuming and tedious, but many people like it as a tea and like throwing other herbs into the mixture as well. I personally have NOT brewed Kratom tea or drank it because it is too much work for less results. By parachuting or Toss n Washing, you are utilizing ALL alkaloids the Kratom contains.
• Now that you have done this, you should still be in withdrawal until the Kratom starts to take effect . You may need to dose more than once if you are still feeling withdrawally , as you may not have used enough. You will now notice ALL MAJOR WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS ARE GONE!
Not 100% gone, the first 3 days are still a TINY TINY BIT withdrawlly, but you can barely tell. You won't have RSL, hot/cold flashes, cold sweats, diareeha, puking, etc.
When I decided to try it, I gave all my hopes into it to work, I felt like a slave to suboxone at the time. Doing just what I had to do when I was using opiates. Take it every day to not withdrawal, and if I didn't have it.. I would be screwed. So I saw it as something that needed to be stopped, but I was afraid of withdrawals and I stumbled upon Kratom. I immediately looked up as many reviews and forum postings about " KRATOM FOR WITHDRAWAL " "KRATOM FOR SUBXONE WITHDRAWAL" etc. to get as many positive results to establish hope in me. I then stopped suboxone for a day , day and a half.. then with all my heart I took Kratom hoping it will do what I read... and IT DID.
I was shocked and so happy. I stopped withdrawling, didn't withdrawal, only very minor symptoms the first couple days, but it took all the withdrawals away! I was amazed that this plant is not publicized or talked about more, but I believe that the pharmacudeical companies that produce Suboxone, Subutex, Methadone, etc. Don't want you to know about it or they would lose millions. There are even laws in some stats BANNING this HARMLESS plant for no reason. I read a post by a cop that lived in a state that banned Kratom, he said he didn't want to take pills for his pain, and wrote letters to the governor of the state multiple times with no reply. NO REPLY TO A POLICE OFFICER IN YOUR STATE!
To summarize everything:
• DO NOT GO ON SUBOXONE IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET OFF HEROIN/PILLS SOON. CHOOSE KRATOM.
• IF YOU ARE ON SUBOXONE AND FEEL LIKE A SLAVE TO IT AND HOPELESS TO GETTING OFF IT, PURCHASE AND USE KRATOM
This works for ANY opiate and I highly highly suggest it. A year worth of Kratom vs a year worth of suboxone, you are practically paying a FRACTION of the cost for stopping withdrawals and getting off prescription meds.
NOW ... Even those this DOES WORK (for almost everyone) I am not at ALL advocating making the switch to Kratom just to replace your pill and suboxone with something else. It STILL is an addictive substance in ways and most people who go on it tend to stay on it. I have been ordering it for the past year because I don't want to withdrawal and I like it... I don't like taking subxone.. not knowing what damage or adverse effects it gives me and will give me as I keep taking it. I much rather take a plant that can also give either Stimulation, Relaxation/Sedation, Nootrpic effects , or pain .
So , I am warning that only that there is a large chance you will replace suboxone with kratom and take it everyday for a long while, but Kratom has much more benefits and less side-effects , as well as the cost. If I can use a plant, unaltered, to take away withdrawals and also give me stimulating effects.. I am going with that.
With all that said and done... PLEASE LOOK AND RESEARCH INTO KRATOM IF YOU ARE THINKING OF GOING ON BUPE OR ON BUPE AND FEEL HOPELESS!!! IT WORKED FOR ME AND THOUSANDS MORE AND MOST LIKELY YOU! Trust me, I was just as skeptical as all of you were.
