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Thinking about jumping to the needle....

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Okay, so I've been an opiate addict on and off for over a decade. I've been clean for awhile now, using maybe once a month or every two months. Nothing major just 20-50mg of oxycodone or low dose oxy/hydromorphone nasally.

For years I'd wondered about IV use, read about it on the internet, and decided that someday I would like to try it if heroin every became available to me. Since pills have gotten expensive H has started to creep into the area...ECP and Tar from what I hear. I know it's just a matter of time before I am offered some.

I've also recently seen someone use the IV ROA with my own eyes for the very first time. Since I saw this the thought of trying it has been running through my head more often. I even dreamed about shooting up twice since I saw the whole process in person.

I have some hydromorphone coming to me soon and I'm kinda dead set on feeling that rush. I want to be safe about all of this and I think I have my bases covered. I was thinking about trying 2mg for my first shot....is this too much for a newbie? I know no one can give me an exact dose to take but I wanna make sure this isn't insane for a first timer or anything.

Also...how long does the high last after the rush? I've plugged hydromorphone and honestly it felt like a waste, snorting them is okay but again it feel like a waste.

Any tips for a first timer? My veins are really easy to see so I don't think I'll have too much trouble registering...but how in the hell am I supposed to hold the rig steady and push down the plunger with one hand? I was thinking about using the crook of my arm...should I use another location?
 
Imo, hydromorphone is more on the strong side of the opiate list. If you're not too heavy into opiates, and have never done hyrdomorphone period, id try snorting it first, see how your body reacts. Don't take dosage advice from people on the internet, only you know your tolerance. Just do what you're comfortable with.

The rush from dilaudid is the best though. Its a bit more intense than oxycodone. Its just warm & fluttery through your whole body. Of course the rush only lasts a couple of minutes, but you'll be left feeling super relaxed, nodding out & such for a while. Of course, this also depends on your tolerance. For me, I can expect to be feeling nice for about an hour. Friends of mine nod out for hours after their shots. IVing is definitely the best way to take dillys imo. Like you said, anything else feels like a waste.

It takes some getting use to the whole regimen, but you'll get it down. Just prep your shit, tie off, aim steady. Hold your tie with your teeth if you need to, and clench your fist to make your veins pop a bit more. When you think you're in, pull back the plunger a little & see if blood leaks. If it doesn't, you aren't in. Don't ever shoot if you don't see blood in your syringe or you'll miss & it hurts like a mother. Crook of your arm is by far the easiest place to hit, for me at least.

However, do be wary of the needle. I'm sure you didn't come here for a lecture, but it is a dangerous game. Itggg be so good its easy to get lost in it, & you'll develop an addiction before you even know it. Just be safe with it (clean needles, clean spoons, disinfect your injection site, ect.)

PM me if you have any questions or need any help, I don't mind guiding you thru a bit more in depth :) good luck!
 
Beware, your hydromorphone tolerance will jump up. You will also not only become addicted to the hydromorphone, but the needle as well (which can be just as big of a bitch psychologically to quit). It most defiantly fun, but sometimes the fun really isn't worth the draw backs.
 
Hey there, i'm not going to lecture you but just tell you whats up. You said you've been addicted to opiates for about 10 years. You've been clean for a while. If you try shooting up, chances are you can kiss your life goodbye. I personally have never done it, but have many friends. They all started blowing oxy's and what not. Those who stuck to that have been able to get help and make a recovery. All of my friends who decided to hit the needle instead, have not. Not one of them can stop themselves even when they want to. Theyve gone through rehab and everything, never works. Im not telling you what to do or what not to, just going to make the choice painfully clear. Judging from your past history with opiates and your huge interest in hitting the needle, you most likely will get addicted. There may be no turning back. If you are willing to risk this, then i'd say go for it using all the safety precautions listed above. If you are even somewhat hesitant, don't. Take time to think if this is really what you want, and if you're willing to give up what you have for it. It is not a once in a life time chance, if you pass this time and realize it's what you want you will have another opportunity. It's better to take your time and think fully then rush into it and regret it later. Just my 2 cents
 
Pills have "gotten expensive" so you want to switch to heroin to save money?! Then you want to IV dope to "save" even more money through BA differences?! LOL

Well, you'll save money for the first couple of weeks by switching to heroin, until your tolerance catches up so you will want to switch to IV heroin from insufflated heroin, which will again only save you money for a week or so before you're doing 2 bag shots every 4-6 hours just to stay normal. Ugh, fuck that noise. It's your life, you are free to do whatever you want, but why make a life-ruining decision when you can think critically enough to get on online forums and ask questions about HR.

The best way to save money on heroin and to never crave it, EVER, is to simply never try it, not even once, it is way too euphoric compared to other opioids and your brain will lose its fight against cravings to take more and more and more. Heroin, Meth, GHB, and Cocaine are dogs better left sleeping, if you want to wake one of them up to play, that's fine, but you risk turning them in to massive monkeys on your back for decades to come.
 
Needles just don't seem to be worth it. Not for what you get, at least. When it's just as easy to consume it another way and basically feel the same way? It would only make sense not to take that risk, if it was a habit you planned to continue in that manner. Just silly really.
Anyway. The high lasts about the same amount of time either way, in my opinion. I feel like people just try to talk these things up too much.
 
IMO dope is so hit or miss I'd stick with sniffin oxymorphone if you can get it. I've done dope a few times since the OC reformulation, and I would take an opana any day of the week over dope. I'm from pittsburgh so round hear its all stamps and you just never know how good it is till u buy it. I will say prices on the buns have dropped considerably since all these pills reformulated. The only reason I feel like my life isn't completely fucked now is cause I haven't IV'd. I know it would be the death of me. I know the feelin, I have friends who make it days without gettin sick cause they IV, but their withdrawels are so much worse.
 
if you're crazy enough to actually go through with shooting shit up for someone who takes 20 to 50mg of oxy i'd start with 4mg of hydromorphone and if you're gonna shoot pills get some micron filters
 
if you end up trying this you should read as much from i.v. megathreads and what not. it takes a lot of practice and when you're just starting out you will miss the shot quite frequently, unless you're very careful. 2mg should be a good starting dose, don't expect fireworks and all that, but you will atleast familiarize yourself with the effects and technique. if you want you can get some saline from the pharmacy (comes in a spray bottle, technically it's nasal spray but it works well for I.V. and practice with that. you need to be absolutely certain you are still in the vein and if you feel the slightest burn at the injection site or you notice the plunger suddenly gets harder to push, stop pull out get the bubbles out the syringe by aiming the needle up and pushing the plunger til there's just liquid in the syringe and try again.

like I said, practice with sterile saline until you get the hang of it. that way you can get an idea of how to do it and also figure out if you're comfortable with it before you do it with the real deal. avoid reusing needles, if you have to pull the needle out and try sticking yourself again thats fine, but after a successful injection you should safely dispose the needle. they get dull easily and when your trying to hit with a dull needle you hurt your veins, it's much more difficult to successfully hit a vein with a dull needle, and the added tissue damage puts you at greater risk of infection.

I'm uploading a couple pics to show you the method of handling a needle one handed. you dont even need to take the cap off to practice that.

this is the method I use. I use my thumb and index finger to drawback, and my thumb to push the plunger. a steady hand wins the race. I've seen other people do it differently, but this is how I learned and it's worked for me.

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with all this said, I have to say jumping to i.v. has been the ruin of many a man, and it will kick whatever addiction you may have to opiates up a great deal. it is a very big lifechanging decision, one that you can never undo.
 
If you think the past 10 years you've been an "addict" on and off have been a struggle.. be prepared to eat your words as you're going to fall into an entire new level of addiction and pain if you make this choice.

It doesn't take much searching on this very forum to come up with countless results on the disastrous outcomes from people beginning to IV.

You'll regret it, basically guaranteed.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
If you think the past 10 years you've been an "addict" on and off have been a struggle.. be prepared to eat your words as you're going to fall into an entire new level of addiction and pain if you make this choice.

It doesn't take much searching on this very forum to come up with countless results on the disastrous outcomes from people beginning to IV.

You'll regret it, basically guaranteed.
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this is very true. I wish I never tried it, and whatever degree of control I had prior to i.v.ing disappeared without a trace the second I stuck that needle in my arm. I hope for op's sake and the sake of his friends and family he decides against it.

I know I sound contradictory, but I think once given the straight talk about what your getting into if you still decide to go through with it then you should have access to as much harm reduction info as possible. so even though I hope you make the right decision if you still decide to go through with it I will answer any questions you have to the best of my ability. peoples frank discussion of i.v.ing on these boards saved me a lot of potential pain and suffering, and even though I still struggle with the consequences of getting into intravenous drug use on a day to day basis I'm grateful for what I was told.

so you want to make damn sure you're aware of the consequences of i.v.ing opiates before you do anything. don't be shortsighted, the rush sounds like it will be fun for the hour or two while it lasts, but the feelings of remorse that follow and the realization that you still have you're entire life ahead of you to live is a very dark moment. when I first tried it I had this wierd feeling that the rush was all that I wanted, and that just one time was all it would take for me to feel good the rest of my life, but as the drugs wear off and reality worked its way back into my mind I realized that nothing changed, and every problem I had before I did it hadn't been fixed.

so don't get fooled by it's allure.
 
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