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Things us stoners can't agree on - The bong debates!

^ what he said

Bongs and other water pieces are more wasteful than dry ones. MAPS did a study...
 
I consider the indica vs sativa arguements to be complete horseshit. if nnyone says they only smoke one or the other they're talking out of their ass, all the best strains are blends and it's pretty rare you even come across a pure indica or sativa strain.

Riskiest place I've ever smoked was probably outside a church with the cities police station 40 feet away.
 
I live in southern california and am a medical marijuana smoker. Anything I cannot find researching online, I ask the guys who work in the dispensaries. They are the ones who told me to get a decent size all glass water-bong, a sharpstone grinder, and also that no marijuana is 100% pure indica or sativa. They explained to me, just like my medical marijuana doctor did, that indica dominant strains have higher CBD/CBN levels and lower THC levels, which makes it a heavier, sleepier type. On the other side of the coin, the Sativa has a higher level of THC, creates a stonier/more creative feeling. Don't quote me on this, lol, this is just how it was explained to me, and from experience it seems to be pretty accurate. I've read about a 3rd type of marijuana called ruderalis, but it's CBD/CBN and THC ;eve;s are all very low, so it isn't really popular anywhere for obvious reasons, lol
 
Ruderalis is a subspecies of Sativa. Cannabis Culture Magazine wrote a pretty interesting article on it, you can read it here.
It's low in thc and cbd/cbn, but it does have some useful properties, such as early flowering.
 
I do know seeds grow from the ground, although to full mast i haven't seen yet. (have seen a good 1 foot plant sprout out of the ground) male though.
 
Nah nah coughing does get you higher... and heres the reason: when you cough you are using your muscles, in response your body sends blood there to bring oxygen to them. along with bringing more blood to where your absorbing the substance, this raises your heart rate and and speeds up the flow of blood about the body. you can test this by checking your heart rate before and after a coughing fit even without being stoned. the increased blood flow brings the active ingredients to your brain faster there for increasing your high.

but in reality any physical activity will do the same thing. take getting ripped before going to the gym for example, plenty of people do this because it flushes the THC through your system much faster.


and i have personal experience seeing weed laced with cocaine, raid, no pest strips (diclorvos), and avid (avermectin), and also once acid for some reason.
 
Oh! one thing we cannot agree on is whether or not Cannabinoids on other trips like phychedellic trips will make the trip better/more friendly or out of control and more scary harder to handle?

I personally rely on weed to boost my trip, make it come on, or sooth me during panic but many other people tend to respect it alot because of what it does to them and others, making trips turn from manageable to chaotic, for half a decade this has been my failsafe strategy but i've learned recently on bluelight that weed just lays some people out while tripping!

Is anyone on my side here? I see it so rarely granted I do get weed anxiety but it usually just feels like my breathing readjusting from a rather harsh rip, takes some time for my lungs to get comfy again thats about it for the scary stuff :S
 
Tunnelfission said:
Oh! one thing we cannot agree on is whether or not Cannabinoids on other trips like phychedellic trips will make the trip better/more friendly or out of control and more scary harder to handle?

I personally rely on weed to boost my trip, make it come on, or sooth me during panic but many other people tend to respect it alot because of what it does to them and others, making trips turn from manageable to chaotic, for half a decade this has been my failsafe strategy but i've learned recently on bluelight that weed just lays some people out while tripping!

Is anyone on my side here? I see it so rarely granted I do get weed anxiety but it usually just feels like my breathing readjusting from a rather harsh rip, takes some time for my lungs to get comfy again thats about it for the scary stuff :S
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Weed can go either way with trips for me, but it's usually positive. But I smoke weed (and these days, JWH-018) everyday, so I'm pretty used to the effects. But a few times, including one time recently it's made a trip go bad. Only on mushrooms though, weed always makes LSD, mescaline, dissassociatives, and psychedelic amphetamines (except for one time on DOB) better. I find that weed goes with almost everything.
 
Indica and sativa simply can't be compared i think, it really depends what your in the mood for though i guess :)
For me, sometimes i like a nice sativa, but there are those times when i want to get fucked out of my mind, those times i get mehself a dub of some dank ass indica!
 
toocoolforschool said:
Nah nah coughing does get you higher... and heres the reason: when you cough you are using your muscles, in response your body sends blood there to bring oxygen to them. along with bringing more blood to where your absorbing the substance, this raises your heart rate and and speeds up the flow of blood about the body. you can test this by checking your heart rate before and after a coughing fit even without being stoned. the increased blood flow brings the active ingredients to your brain faster there for increasing your high.

but in reality any physical activity will do the same thing. take getting ripped before going to the gym for example, plenty of people do this because it flushes the THC through your system much faster.


and i have personal experience seeing weed laced with cocaine, raid, no pest strips (diclorvos), and avid (avermectin), and also once acid for some reason.
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Do you make up this shit in your spare time??? You clearly do not understand many basic pharmacological concepts; so I am sorry you have an overly active imagination.
 
oh you got me there, i made it up just to get a little atention from some anomous names on a froum on the internet because i care so much about your opinions. you realy know me well Mr. mighty heroin

The OP asked and i answered. I do not see where you base your bias for disbelief or exactaly what is wrong with my "basic pharmacological concepts."

Answer me this: Does coughing not increase the speed at which blood circulates about your body and is your blood not the medium that transports THC from your lungs to where it's highest concentration of cannabinoid receptors are in your brain and/or other parts of your body where it is then absorbed?
or do I have that wrong, and caughing causes slower heart rate, there for slowing the speed at which the blood circulates the?


and the laced weed was real just probably not the conext that your thinking of it was not laced then resold. by either contamination from veg rooms in the case of the pestacides or laced by the curious consumers who wanted to experience the two highs at the same time and purchased them seperatly but having them both in posession at the same time and purley seeing them as means to get high miexd the two. saw the idiot spray the weed with raid because he "heard it would get him higher," it was inrelation to a rumor started by unscroupolus dealers who used to spray poorly maintained outdoor crops with raid to increase profits. a good friend rolled a j with a sprinkle of coke in it inspired by eekamouse's song crack cocaine & marijuana and smoked it infront of me. I admit the diclorvos was word of mouth from a friend that said a particualrly sweet smelling weed that actualy induced extreme salvation and was before the wide spread use of carbohydrate nutrient adatives, i later found out that the grower had used pestacide strips in an adjacent veg room that fed the vent to the flower room. And as for the avid, it is used on every crop in veg from a particular grower and even thouhgh it's use is usualy discontinued at the beginning of flowering, a small amount is still present on the final buds occasionaly. the acid was dropped onto weed as a means of smoking it to test the myth that you can smoke acid and was found to be scarcely active if at all.
 
Which gets you baked the most when you smoke out of it: joint, blunt, bong, one hitter, bowl, or hot knives? Which one of these methods do you like to use to smoke herb? i usally smoke with a bong n realy have joints but when i do they roll me but if i wanna get really fucked up i have a bucket bong.

What the best herb you've ever smoked was like. white rihno or widdow

Which movie/music is best after smoking? pink floid or anything on the raido pinapple express harold n kumora go to white castle

What's the most improvised munchie you've ever made? peanut butter sugar put in microwave for 30 seconds or peanutbutter ham n cheeze.oreos are my fav gets rid off munchies n drys

Does smoking nicotine while high get you higher than if you didn't smoke any nicotine at all? not but i put fuck loads of spin in my chops always gives me a good head spin

What happens to you when you smoke and drink different types of booze? YOU THROW UP AND YOUR NIGHT ENDS BAD!

Which gets you more high, hash or bud? none they have diffrent highs i pefer hash as its very rare where i am.

What's the best brand/type of rolling paper for joints or blunt/wraps for blunts? ive only used tallhos

What's the best thing to do while high?watch TV eat suck nos

Where's the strangest/most unique or risky place you've smoked/gotten high? OUT THE FRONT OF THE COURT HOUSE
 
toocoolforschool said:
oh you got me there, i made it up just to get a little atention from some anomous names on a froum on the internet because i care so much about your opinions. you realy know me well Mr. mighty heroin

The OP asked and i answered. I do not see where you base your bias for disbelief or exactaly what is wrong with my "basic pharmacological concepts."

Answer me this: Does coughing not increase the speed at which blood circulates about your body and is your blood not the medium that transports THC from your lungs to where it's highest concentration of cannabinoid receptors are in your brain and/or other parts of your body where it is then absorbed?
or do I have that wrong, and caughing causes slower heart rate, there for slowing the speed at which the blood circulates the?


and the laced weed was real just probably not the conext that your thinking of it was not laced then resold. by either contamination from veg rooms in the case of the pestacides or laced by the curious consumers who wanted to experience the two highs at the same time and purchased them seperatly but having them both in posession at the same time and purley seeing them as means to get high miexd the two. saw the idiot spray the weed with raid because he "heard it would get him higher," it was inrelation to a rumor started by unscroupolus dealers who used to spray poorly maintained outdoor crops with raid to increase profits. a good friend rolled a j with a sprinkle of coke in it inspired by eekamouse's song crack cocaine & marijuana and smoked it infront of me. I admit the diclorvos was word of mouth from a friend that said a particualrly sweet smelling weed that actualy induced extreme salvation and was before the wide spread use of carbohydrate nutrient adatives, i later found out that the grower had used pestacide strips in an adjacent veg room that fed the vent to the flower room. And as for the avid, it is used on every crop in veg from a particular grower and even thouhgh it's use is usualy discontinued at the beginning of flowering, a small amount is still present on the final buds occasionaly. the acid was dropped onto weed as a means of smoking it to test the myth that you can smoke acid and was found to be scarcely active if at all.
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you cant smoke coke or acid man
 
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I've read that weed has increased in average THC levels from about ~2-3% to anywhere from 10-18% from the 1960's to now. I read how 1 bong hit of good quality weed from today is equal to like 40 something joints of 1960's average weed.
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If the average levels of THC you give are correct, then 1 joint of today's weed is equal to about 3-9 joints worth of 60's weed (assuming that the quantity of cannabis used on average in a joint has remained constant, which I doubt). My joints have more weed in than my bong hits, so the idea that a single bong hit could have an equal quantity of active cannabinoids to over 40 joints of 60's weed seems pretty ridiculous imo. Critical thinking is a useful skill; the fact that you read it somewhere does not make it so.
 
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