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The X-Men Movies are about Gay Rights

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One of my professors brought this up briefly. I've seen all three movies, but slept through a lot of them b/c I was mostly taking my little brother to see them.

In one film, there's a "cure" for mutants. People often think that gays can be cured. Is the film saying that gays cannot be "cured" so don't try to cure them?

In one scene, a mother asks her mutant kid "can't you just try to not be a mutant?" That's like a mother saying to her kid "try to not be gay."

The mutants are oppressed/looked down upon. Gay people are oppressed/looked down upon. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the movies can support the argument my professor briefly made to us. Discuss
 
Haha, I dont think that the movies are about Gay Rights.
I think that he is trying to make a connection that just isnt there.
 
You could probably use any minority group as an example, but it's pretty poor to have a go at the X-Men movies. How dare he.

I must be the antidote to the "cure", because I tend to turn women into lesbians. **not sure to insert a smiley or sad-face here!**
 
As a gay person, I've also made the same assumptions/comparisons. I think there's a possibility your professor might be gay too. =D
 
OK, let me give a serious answer. Your professor is an idiot.

X-Men comics debuted 1963 and mutant oppression has been a theme from the very beginning. I seriously doubt that in pre-sexual revolution 1963, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were setting out to make a pro-gay rights comic book. If anything it was a metaphore for racial oppression and this has been expanded on many many times throughout the life of the series.

Secondly, being about mutants being oppressed by humans might be used to explain a straight/gay thing, but what about, you know, everything else? What is all the good mutants versus bad mutants supposed to represent? There is no major internal conflicts within the gay community.

You could make a much better argument that the X-Men series is about anti-semitism. The mutants being "cured" and "stop being a mutant" would be about Jews giving up their customs and religious beliefs and assimilating with the majority culture.
The "evil" mutants could be Zionists striving for a Jewish homeland where they are in control and the "good" mutants are ones who believe that Jews and gentiles should just get along where they are.
Mind you, I'm not saying that's what the movies are about. Just that it makes 500 times more sense than X-Men being about gay rights.
 
I don't understand how this is some sort of brilliant sociological find in comic book history.

this is no cigar, my friends, as Impacto is right - the X-Men were created in the tumultuous decade of the 60s and they were a representation of the oppressed, in those aforementioned times.

more recently in the 90s, the comic books have been updated to allow the X-Men to serve as an allusion for even just simply society's outcasts.

this is no new find and I would be severely unimpressed. but I am a comic book dork to the highest power.
 
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The movies are for ass kickery and the like. I have never read comics, but strangely enough I've liked every movie based on a comic book. It's the fact that it's mindless entertainment that has the ability to carry itself with no real thinking on behalf of the viewer. With no hidden agenda. Yes, it sounds like you have the nutty professor!
 
X-Men is first of all about Wolverine, but then there are problems with Magneto so they make X Men to fight him.
 
No :-)

I agree that the oppression and outcast-from-society theme can be applied to most minority groups.

Big BUT is (and I'm going with what's said in the films, having not read the comics) aren't the mutants the "next evolutionary step"? They're *better* than non-mutants, more evolved... how does that fit in with gay rights? Do gays regard their gayness as superior?

Also, the X-men are happy and thrive in their mutant community. Their differences are celebrated -- there's no focus in the films (in the comics?) at all on "they wish they could live amongst normal humans, but they've been cast out, and they're just like us really". And the non-X-Men-mutants are bent on killing all non-mutants. Not sure how that's "gay rights" either.
 
Yes he knows about the history of the comics. He was talking about the movies. He's saying they're about gay rights, since civil rights is no longer a big issue, but gay rights is. Follow me now? Not the comics, the movies, like I said in the title of the thread. And no he's not gay, he's married.
 
angelsmoke said:
Also, the X-men are happy and thrive in their mutant community. Their differences are celebrated -.
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Exactly! Gay people are happy and thrive in their gay communities/bars/clubs/etc.. Their differences should be celebrated by everyone, but they are cast-out in many ways from different places in society.
 
EA-1475 said:
You could make a much better argument that the X-Men series is about anti-semitism. The mutants being "cured" and "stop being a mutant" would be about Jews giving up their customs and religious beliefs and assimilating with the majority culture.
The "evil" mutants could be Zionists striving for a Jewish homeland where they are in control and the "good" mutants are ones who believe that Jews and gentiles should just get along where they are.
Mind you, I'm not saying that's what the movies are about. Just that it makes 500 times more sense than X-Men being about gay rights.
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Um, no it doesn't. Gay rights is a HUGE issue right now and at the time the movies were being written and all that. Jewish rights is not much of an issue at all, unless you're in the backwoods of the deep South or something like that.
 
Well, it looks like you think you've got this all figured out. What's the point of this if you're just going to defend what your professor thinks? I really fail to see the potential of this thread.
 
Did Stan Lee attempt to make a comic that compares mutants to the real life struggle of the gay community? NO

Does it present a fair comparison? Oh yeah.

So your professor is probably just making a statement about how x men reflects gay oppression much like other movies can be coincidentally compared to other issues .
 
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