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The Value of Low Dose trips

I get very very slight headaches while under the effect of small amounts of lsd. I'm done with low dose pyschs, I feel too drained afterward.
 
I've discovered a lovely low dose combi that pays back in dividends with some potentiation effects...low dose but totally out there response

20mg aMT sublingual, 2 hours later 1x<10mg butylone bump (insuffilated), 1 hour later another 1x<10mg butylone bump (insuffilated), 1-2 hours later, depending on how soon you want to change / progress the experience, 1 x 10-15mg MXE (Methoxyetamine) sublingual, and repeat an hour or two later if you want to get right out there. I have induldged in this a couple of times over the last week now and wow!!

Obviously patience is the key here, if you want an immediate response by whacking 200mg methylone / Ket up your nose, then don't bother with this, but if you like the anticipation and slow build over a whole evening, with a variety of headspaces and experiences, then you could do worse...and the best thing I find, is it's perfectly possible to have a lovely nights sleep with amazing headstuff going on between getting into bed and finally dropping off.

These are doses I find that work for me with a low dose approach. I believe methoxetamine and butylone could be risky at higher doses, so please don't increase doses believing you are hardcore and need a good dose to 'feel' anything - don't want it to be the last feeling you ever have.....
 
some psyches i find a bit agitating in lower doses, but some work really well. 4-HO-MET is pretty cool in lowish doses, and i've found low dose 2c-c to be an excellent meditation aid. All of my trips since mid-october have been pretty low dose.
 
I've done low doses of acid many times.
I'd take a quarter or a third of a blotter and go out to a bar/party/friends place.

I'd drink on top of that or smoke a little. No tripping, but I'd get laughing so easily, get into crazy jokes, etc.
A lot of fun.

But don't overdo it. Once a took half of what I thought was an old blotter.
started tripping right before supper at some friend's "mild" party !! oops
 
I'm a fan of low dose shrooms but I consider a low dose anything less then a half eighth and I just looked at erowid which said thats on the low end of common so what do I know?
 
low dose is just a non-tripping dose, for me, as far as psychedelics go.
No CEV's no OVE's, just a slight psychedelic edge
 
I remember reading somehwere, it was either Myron Stolaroff or Stanislav Grof, who said that while higher doses do indeed get you extremely high and into psychedelic effects, they said that low doses were more effective at bring subconscious material to the surface is useful ways.

They said, that in this manner, low doses can sometimes be quite difficult in their own way.

I think i know what they mean firsthand. Sometimes when you take a full on +++ dose, you're so caught up in all the bells and whistles of the experience or just enduring the crazy somatic sensations the drug has to offer, that you just don't get to dig as deep as say, taking a ++ dose in a comfortable setting and manner and then being suprised at all the corners or consciousness you just may witness.

2C-E is like this a lot. 20 mgs may give you a hell of a trip, but it also comes with the most side effects. 12 or 13 mgs of 2C-E on the other hand can be *quite* a rich experience without too much peripheral stimulation.
 
any major dude said:
some psyches i find a bit agitating in lower doses, but some work really well. 4-HO-MET is pretty cool in lowish doses, and i've found low dose 2c-c to be an excellent meditation aid. All of my trips since mid-october have been pretty low dose.
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^ this. I find low doses just kind of annoying on my body and mind, at least with tryptamines. With phenethylamines I find low dose experiences much more fulfilling esp. w/2c-d.
 
i was wondering, LSD dosage; how 'low' can it get?

i've tripped twice off of two average(maybe above-average) tabs, in terms of dosage. i took two each time and it was CLEARLY what i'm trying to avoid for this next trip.

i think i've come across several pretty weak blotters. i'm under the impression that the slightest bit of the stuff will make you feel at least SOMEthing lol right?
i'm planning on taking one tab first, just to see how much is in each. and taking a nice bike ride to the beach around dusk, i should feel 'high' like off pot my friend says. lol
what do you all think? he took two (MUCH more experienced than me) of the same weak tabs and he said he tripped averagely
 
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You can go as low as you like. Some folks enjoy as little as 25ug just as something to brighten the day (almost like a "nootropic" but certainly not enough to trip off). Depends what you want. If they are weak and you want a mild trip then one should be fine. Half of one even if you really want to start low. You can always titrate upwards if it's disappointing the first time.
 
Shambles said:
You can go as low as you like. Some folks enjoy as little as 25ug just as something to brighten the day (almost like a "nootropic" but certainly not enough to trip off). Depends what you want. If they are weak and you want a mild trip then one should be fine. Half of one even if you really want to start low. You can always titrate upwards if it's disappointing the first time.
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I dont really know how weak they are, thats why im taking one to see exactly what i paid for. Theyre not fake. At this point i just hope all the tabs have something on them.

Will i have insomnia like with average doses if i take a low dose?
 
Lower dose trips tend to be shorter than higher dose ones but not hugely. I'd say at least 6-8 hours. I can usually sleep fine around 8 hours or so after taking acid if I really want to. Doesn't really cause insomnia as such. I've never needed a benzo or owt to get to sleep after acid.
 
Then my first trips must have been high dosage cause i didnt sleep for 12 hours. I was as happy as a unicorn, but with no sleep lol

thanks for the help!
 
12 hours isn't all that unusual cos acid generally lasts 8-12 hours - your difficulty in sleeping is well within the normal range. I'd only call it insomnia if it lasted significantly longer than the effects of the drug itself really.
 
Shambles said:
12 hours isn't all that unusual cos acid generally lasts 8-12 hours - your difficulty in sleeping is well within the normal range. I'd only call it insomnia if it lasted significantly longer than the effects of the drug itself really.
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true. what i meant was no sleep for 12 hours AFTER i came down.
 
That is very odd. No idea about that. Have never heard of anybody having that problem but drugs do affect everybody differently. If a "normal" trip keeps you awake that long after it end I really couldn't say how long a low-dose one could, I'm afraid.
 
that's what leads me to believe that my first two trips were kinda 'high' doses. i was definetely floored both times. i LOVED it :)
 
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