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The Ultimate Legal Sociabilizers?

4-mmc at lower doseages 100mg nasal 150 oral.or weak poppy tea.propranolol works for preformance anx (off label) and worked great for me and a friend for a buisness presentation.and it doesnt get you high.
 
The only problem with beta blockers is that they do not work for anxiety of a purely psychological nature. When I speak in public I start stuttering etc. which a beta blocker has no effect on.
 
oh yar tho i forgot to say that klonopin has gotten me thru everything from dentists to dates,, it is the best medication ever in my opinion and it is relatively cheap easily obtained LEGALLY thru a doctor (I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO DOCTOR SHOP OR LIE TO DOCTORS) just be truthful. tell him your frind has had success with it Depending on the doc he might try to give you an ssri which i REALLY do NOT recommend they make me teitchy and my mood sour and unstable, so i might say that i was tying avoid the ssri route as this seems to be a breakthrough medication you are seekinging. OF COURSE NEVER LIE TO A DOC. Just say the truth about you syptoms and that friends have had success with klonopin (im ur friend right?) and yadda yadda. Good luck i know how crippling bad anxiety can be.
 
Why don't you just man up? Sorry if that comes across as harsh, and don't think I'm not sympathetic - I've been dealing with social anxiety the better part of my life. I started out self-medicating, and that works in the short term. If you think opiates or stimulants are the answer, then you're really in for disappointment. It sounds like you already have a problem, do you really need to involve an addiction as well?

Go out, and talk to people. It doesn't matter if you're scared. You'll get used to it. You can't sit in your house all day and not do anything because you're afraid to interact with other people. Forget the drugs, and like I said - go out there and man the fuck up. Best of luck to you, bro.

(If you just can't do it, try counseling or something. Long story short, there's no magic medicine that will solve this problem in anything but the shortest of terms.)
 
IllusionalFate said:
I have severe social phobia, and making conversation is extremely difficult and mentally taxing for me. I've tried enough conventional treatments to no avail, and am looking for the best drug available through RX to make me more social and outgoing. I know of dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine), methamphetamine (Desoxyn), lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse), and Adderall. GHB (Xyrem) also sounds like a good one, but I'm even less likely to get a script for that than the aforementioned stimulants.

Which one is the best for what I'm looking for? Any other suggestions or different classes of drugs are welcome (opioids possibly?). Thanks in advance.
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in the long run, everything is probably gonna fuck you up even further. that's kinda where i'm at with alcohol and stimulants at the moment.... i have similar problems, altho possibly more severe than yours due to all the drugs i use to mask my social anxiety, schizophrenia, and bipolar..

if you've tried therapy and that didn't help (it didn't for me either), then i'd go for ativan or valium... opiates are good but definitely not long term. they may just fuck up your motivation big time, as well as your body

i'd stay away from short-acting drugs like xanax and alcohol. they're ok for the rare anxiety attack, but otherwise are just very addictive traps best avoided by people with mental problems

best of luck man, hang in there,

G
 
DaPillPoppinAnimal said:
Why don't you just man up? Sorry if that comes across as harsh, and don't think I'm not sympathetic - I've been dealing with social anxiety the better part of my life. I started out self-medicating, and that works in the short term. If you think opiates or stimulants are the answer, then you're really in for disappointment. It sounds like you already have a problem, do you really need to involve an addiction as well?

Go out, and talk to people. It doesn't matter if you're scared. You'll get used to it. You can't sit in your house all day and not do anything because you're afraid to interact with other people. Forget the drugs, and like I said - go out there and man the fuck up. Best of luck to you, bro.

(If you just can't do it, try counseling or something. Long story short, there's no magic medicine that will solve this problem in anything but the shortest of terms.)
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you can't just man up to something going inside your brain.. it isn't about the way you think, it's about chemicals in your brain 8)

you can't avoid a seizure due to anxiety just like you can't avoid a flashback. the only thing that helps in these cases is drugs and some exercise may also help, short-term
 
whoever on this thread is saying to just 'man up' obviously has no clue what social phobia or introversion is....anyone that has read up on the subject realizes it is usually caused by a lack of dopamine in the brain thats why drugs like ghb and alcohol/stimulants work so well...you cant really increase dopamine naturally imo or thru therapy...you can work thru social anxiety by cbt but in order to get social desire, i think drugs are necessary...thats my biggest problem is introversion or complete lack of desire to socialize...i can talk to people just fine but i find it draining or a chore much of the time..much of the time i am forced into social situations, i dont do it on my own good will because i lack the desire to socialize...GHB worked like a miracle drug for me, alcohol doesnt work anymore, stimulants work....

i have talked to several people with several social phobia that have been scribed a cocktail of dexedrine and benzo like klonopin or valium...they say it has changed their life...they found that when they just took a benzo that they would feel sluggish and not motivated socially at all so thats where the stimulant comes in...
 
It all depends on which substances you enjoy. For some, opiates take away anxiety...for others, stimulants or alcohol help them feel more confident.

Here's a rundown of some legal (depending on where you live) substances that can help:

Entactogens (MDMA-like drugs):
Methylone
Mephedrone
Butylone

Stimulants (amphetamine-like drugs):
Khat
Guarana
Yerba mate
Coca
Betel nut
Propylhexedrine
4-fmp
Ephedrine/ephedra
Yohimbe

Hallucinogens (LSD-like drugs):
Salvia divinorum
Morning glory seed
San pedro cactus
Wormwood
DMT-containing plants
Ibogaine (illegal in U.S.)

Opiate-like drugs:
Kratom

Sedative/Depressants (alchohol-like drugs):
Valerian root
Kava-kava
Blue lotus
Passionflower
Catnip

Deliriants/Dissociatives (datura/PCP-like drugs):
amanita muscaria mushrooms
nutmeg
datura
DXM
Sedating antihistamines (diphenhydramine)
Nitrous oxide

Cannabis-like drugs:
Wild dagga
Spice and Spice-alike products
JWH-072, -018

Other:
Kanna
Calamus
 
I don't know that I'd mix deliriants with dissociatives like that... DXM and Nitrous are nothing like the deliriants, and not nearly as reckless to mess around with (in terms of harm to OTHER people)

Most of those sedatives/Depressants are used as herbal treatments and are very weak.

And... I know there's a cannabinoid legal here in Canada called CP,55940 which I've been interested in trying.
 
if you are generally not a social person then just accept it, doing drugs isnt the answer.

If you dont want to live life without drugs then you might aswell do valium or heroin because they are the only drugs that make anxiety and any other mental illness for that matter just disappear.

On the other hand you could do exercise, eat healthy, read self help books and meditate... all of which take time and effort.

I must add that I am also very shy and it does my head in, but i just feel gay when im trying to make friends with men and dont feel confident enough to chat to women. So im pretty fcuked!
 
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IllusionalFate said:
I have severe social phobia, and making conversation is extremely difficult and mentally taxing for me. I've tried enough conventional treatments to no avail, and am looking for the best drug available through RX to make me more social and outgoing. I know of dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine), methamphetamine (Desoxyn), lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse), and Adderall. GHB (Xyrem) also sounds like a good one, but I'm even less likely to get a script for that than the aforementioned stimulants.

Which one is the best for what I'm looking for? Any other suggestions or different classes of drugs are welcome (opioids possibly?). Thanks in advance.
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Adrafinil

It converts to modafinil in the liver. A CIV stimulant. But its non controlled in the anologue form.

PEA also with selegiline

coca leaves

poppy tea

Phenibut

Phentermine, Bontril, or Didrex (allthough I hear its harder to get now)


In my opinion Adrafinil is the one best suited to your wants and it has much less side effects than the traditional stimulants, less edgy.

I agree about avoiding the opiates though. I can testify that myself since Im on 200mg of methadone a day now.
 
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OverDriven said:
You're considering stimulants for social anxiety? I can't think of anything worse. They will simply exacerbate the problem. Bezos like Xanax are commonly prescribed for this. For me, opiates make me extremely social. If your case is as severe as you say though, no drug is going to make it much better. The key is to overcome your fears.
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actually that really depends. Stimulants for me take away anxiety because they nullify fear, depression, and worry.
 
Exposing yourself to social situation doestn work for everyones social anxiety, i spend in jail for 7 months and was in a cell with 6 persons 24/7 and my anxiety is still the same.

If benzo's or opiates work for someone's social anxiety please consider yourself very lucky... For me the only thing that works is MDMA, and i'm gonna try MDAI soon.
 
Benzos actually do work for me. It is just really hard not to take more than prescribed.
That might be because of a couple stress related siezures i had. Was supposed to go to a neurologist and what not.

Yeah, noted on the part while rolling. Does not treat my heart like stims do. Notice no anxiety at all. Am curious of how much part serotonin actually plays with anxiety And depression disorders.

As well as low mg doses of addie do work for my anxiety as far as the "getting out and about, as well as the feeling of being in the "zone." One thing i will not let get the best of me is Stims. Can bring the bad out in people or just make the heart beat to hard on me.
 
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