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blue kringle said:
I'm right there with you (i think).
Nature it seems to me favours extreme diversity, abundance & divergent weirdness. A restless need to keep the party going & the party surprising. So an empty universe makes no sense to me either.



Can you explain that further? "Our sun is at iron" sounds intriguing.
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Well you gotta see every single sun as a sort of "molecular forge", because that's what it is.
In the beginning stages they all make Hydrogen/Helium, that's just how it goes(this process never stops until the star turns into a so-called "giant"), then gradually move up the periodic table and produce additional elements as they grow and work through different resources, so Helium next, then Lithium, Beryllium, Boron, Carbon, Nitrogen, ...
Our sun at the moment is producing Iron atoms, billions of them. As Iron is only number 26 of 118 elements, you also understand why it is significantly smaller than almost all other suns out there, it's essentially a baby sun.
Since it hasn't gone any further than Iron, the only assumption left is that every single molecule and atom that is further on the periodic table than Iron actually comes from another sun.

The atoms or molecules move via water, as water at a certain point(I think absolute zero, but no guarantees) becomes liquid again, you could call it the postman of the universe, as it works to transport molecules over billions of lightyears throughout space.

All this is oversimplified. Can't stress this enough.

edit: little bit of extra info: once they produce Iron, it's all they're going to produce pre-Supernova. So the star has to explode in order to create even more elements. And post-Supernova you get a new baby sun, and enough material for a solar system :)
 
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blue kringle said:
Ah ok. Is our sun made of iron at its core?
Guess you can tell science isnt my strong suit :confused:
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no the core is hydrogen and makes helium.
Well, not as simple as that, it actually makes helium so actively,
that there's never much hydrogen left, sun always fluctuates between about 80% hydrogen to only 1/3 hydrogen.

It's a giant fusion reactor, so essentially you got the core that's just plasma (plasma means a mix of positive and negative charge, so ions and electrons) with a pressure of an actual fuckton, i think 270 billion bar or so, add to that 15 mio °C..
so as you might imagine, it's hard to find stable molecules in there

The theory that stars have solid cores is pretty old, and doesn't seem to hold true at all,
the thought was with all that pressure there has to be a solid core, but actually it's the other way round,
with that much pressure it's often just impossible to have a solid core
It's hydrogen that converts into helium, once it's all helium, the star is essentially dead and will self-destruct (this takes a few years :ROFLMAO: shoutout to Beteigeuze)
 
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December Flower said:
no the core is hydrogen and makes helium.
Well, not as simple as that, it actually makes helium so actively,
that there's never much hydrogen left, sun always fluctuates between about 80% hydrogen to only 1/3 hydrogen.

It's a giant fusion reactor, so essentially you got the core that's just plasma (plasma means a mix of positive and negative charge, so ions and electrons) with a pressure of an actual fuckton, i think 270 billion bar or so, add to that 15 mio °C..
so as you might imagine, it's hard to find stable molecules in there

The theory that stars have solid cores is pretty old, and doesn't seem to hold true at all,
the thought was with all that pressure there has to be a solid core, but actually it's the other way round,
with that much pressure it's often just impossible to have a solid core
It's hydrogen that converts into helium, once it's all helium, the star is essentially dead and will self-destruct (this takes a few years :ROFLMAO: shoutout to Beteigeuze)
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stars arent real
 
I had sleep paralysis when I was 16 that involved waking up to about 3 grey aliens standing around me.

My bed at the time was backed against the wall. Two of the "greys" were standing off to my right side where it was open and the other one was to my left and it was just a torso because it's lower half would have been where the bed was.

I've had awful sleep paralysis for years until I learned that not sleeping on my back can prevent it. Usually I would have it and sense a presence around me, but that one time when I was 16, I saw the greys clear as day. I'm sure it was just a hallucination but I wonder some times.

I saw a light moving in the sky (not blinking, moving pretty fast) about 2 years ago, but other than that I have not had much UFO experiences.

I have however had tons of paranormal experiences (which I've shared around here a few times somewhere), so I'm pretty open minded.

Love stuff like this, so awesome thread @Negentropic !!!
Definitely need more info on these gay aliens as well, like ASL?
 
DeathIndustrial88 said:
I had sleep paralysis when I was 16 that involved waking up to about 3 grey aliens standing around me.

My bed at the time was backed against the wall. Two of the "greys" were standing off to my right side where it was open and the other one was to my left and it was just a torso because it's lower half would have been where the bed was.

I've had awful sleep paralysis for years until I learned that not sleeping on my back can prevent it. Usually I would have it and sense a presence around me, but that one time when I was 16, I saw the greys clear as day. I'm sure it was just a hallucination but I wonder some times.

I saw a light moving in the sky (not blinking, moving pretty fast) about 2 years ago, but other than that I have not had much UFO experiences.

I have however had tons of paranormal experiences (which I've shared around here a few times somewhere), so I'm pretty open minded.

Love stuff like this, so awesome thread @Negentropic !!!
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Very interesting!

One of the leading theories about the alien abduction phenomenon is that it's some sort of hypnagogic or hypnopompic hallucination like sleep paralysis. That makes the most sense to me.

I don't really believe aliens are actually abducting people or at least thousands of people.

My sleep paralysis typically isn't that vivid. I'll usually see zombies arms reaching out of the wall or something less intense.
 
Negentropic said:
Very interesting!

One of the leading theories about the alien abduction phenomenon is that it's some sort of hypnagogic or hypnopompic hallucination like sleep paralysis. That makes the most sense to me.

I don't really believe aliens are actually abducting people or at least thousands of people.
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I agree. I think a lot of abduction cases are just sleep paralysis & stuff like that.

Although it doesn't explain the ones where people are awake, in their cars or with multiple witnesses.

A lot of hoaxers and shit out there, but I tend to think that since there have been so many reports of UFOs, Aliens, Humanoid beings, etc.. That at least a portion of these people are telling the truth or at least believe what they saw.

Dealing with ghosts when I was a kid, that other people were witness to really opened my mind up to the possibility that there's more going on than we know.
We as humans probably only know have a tiny fraction of things when it comes to the big picture.

I dunno if we'll truly know about anything in my life time, unless aliens make themselves obviously known worldwide, which would be pretty crazy but it would probably disturb how society functions if the aliens did that and then craziness could break out.

There really are people out there who would lose their tits. Hell I can't say I blame them either if your whole worldview gets shattered and suddenly creepy looking beings are now a reality. lol

But with all the sightings people have had of either UAP's or bipedal humanoid things, I'd say anything is possible. Maybe even likely, but just in a way we can't understand right now (or are being kept from understanding).
 
December Flower said:
Hate to disappoint, but most governments have already acknowledged many UFO reports.
Most reports were from military only, the little idiot videos on youtube nobody ever took seriously
So kudos to the people making fun of something nobody believed in the first place
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UFO are real ik, You know me though. I joke about everything
 
UFOs are real, and the Pentagon has actually admitted that there are objects in our skies that can't be explained. They appear to be intelligently controlled as well. This does not necessarily mean that they're "alien" in the conventional sense of the term. Given the movements of these objects that defy known laws of physics, I think the phenomenon is likely interdimensional in origin. Also, the "aliens" people report seeing tend to be quite human-like in appearance. Their eyes are almost always reported to be much larger, usually without irises or a sclera. Though, they still always have two eyes.

The entities that people report seeing are always reported to be bipedal, and they typically have two arms. Their hands typically have fingers. People sometimes report that they have a different number of fingers than humans. Experiencers who claim to have had close, face-to-face interactions with UFO occupants report that they do not feel any breath. People who have had close-up encounters also do not report seeing breathing motions in their chest or stomach. Also, entities that are observed by experiencers are often able to walk through walls.

Furthermore, many UFO reports and videos show craft that are able to move from point A to point B instantaneously or at impossibly high rates of speed without creating a sonic boom. Many reports and videos involve UFOs traveling through water without creating a splash. Overall, the whole phenomenon seems more like hyper-evolved humans of some kind that have effectively escaped from the fabric of reality itself through the use of technology and/or the evolution of highly advanced intelligence.

Perhaps, these beings could be more interested in us nowadays, due to our technological advancement. This is just one possibility. Overall, I think the phenomenon is definitely very real. However, it's most likely not "aliens" in a conventional sense of the term. Rather, it's something else entirely that we're just beginning to understand.
 
LandsUnknown said:
UFOs are real, and the Pentagon has actually admitted that there are objects in our skies that can't be explained. They appear to be intelligently controlled as well. This does not necessarily mean that they're "alien" in the conventional sense of the term. Given the movements of these objects that defy known laws of physics, I think the phenomenon is likely interdimensional in origin. Also, the "aliens" people report seeing tend to be quite human-like in appearance. Their eyes are almost always reported to be much larger, usually without irises or a sclera. Though, they still always have two eyes.

The entities that people report seeing are always reported to be bipedal, and they typically have two arms. Their hands typically have fingers. People sometimes report that they have a different number of fingers than humans. Experiencers who claim to have had close, face-to-face interactions with UFO occupants report that they do not feel any breath. People who have had close-up encounters also do not report seeing breathing motions in their chest or stomach. Also, entities that are observed by experiencers are often able to walk through walls.

Furthermore, many UFO reports and videos show craft that are able to move from point A to point B instantaneously or at impossibly high rates of speed without creating a sonic boom. Many reports and videos involve UFOs traveling through water without creating a splash. Overall, the whole phenomenon seems more like hyper-evolved humans of some kind that have effectively escaped from the fabric of reality itself through the use of technology and/or the evolution of highly advanced intelligence.

Perhaps, these beings could be more interested in us nowadays, due to our technological advancement. This is just one possibility. Overall, I think the phenomenon is definitely very real. However, it's most likely not "aliens" in a conventional sense of the term. Rather, it's something else entirely that we're just beginning to understand.
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Good points!

The fact that they like to come & go out of bodies of water makes me wonder some times if they're not actually aliens, but some time of intelligence right here from Earth that has lived among side us. Possibly underground or deep in the oceans.
 
December Flower said:
Well you gotta see every single sun as a sort of "molecular forge", because that's what it is.
In the beginning stages they all make Hydrogen/Helium, that's just how it goes(this process never stops until the star turns into a so-called "giant"), then gradually move up the periodic table and produce additional elements as they grow and work through different resources, so Helium next, then Lithium, Beryllium, Boron, Carbon, Nitrogen, ...
Our sun at the moment is producing Iron atoms, billions of them. As Iron is only number 26 of 118 elements, you also understand why it is significantly smaller than almost all other suns out there, it's essentially a baby sun.
Since it hasn't gone any further than Iron, the only assumption left is that every single molecule and atom that is further on the periodic table than Iron actually comes from another sun.

The atoms or molecules move via water, as water at a certain point(I think absolute zero, but no guarantees) becomes liquid again, you could call it the postman of the universe, as it works to transport molecules over billions of lightyears throughout space.

All this is oversimplified. Can't stress this enough.

edit: little bit of extra info: once they produce Iron, it's all they're going to produce pre-Supernova. So the star has to explode in order to create even more elements. And post-Supernova you get a new baby sun, and enough material for a solar system :)
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Thanks DF :)
 
i believe aliens exist i strongly do no matter what u or anyone saysssss i know that the moon wears a hat yonowmatsene and like yo we got people doing ur even on my level people goin into astral plane visting forbbiden places on earth and in the universe yo there's i dunno, i pers.. don't enjoy pink meat so meh grain of salt but the intention matters and given being the brain is the most powerful thing yeahh
 
LandsUnknown said:
Perhaps, these beings could be more interested in us nowadays, due to our technological advancement.
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According to Trevor James Constable it was during WWII due to radar technology going crazy that really upped the UFO presence & encounters around Earth.

I wanted to mention that book "The Cosmic Pulse of Life - The Revolutionary Biological Power Behind UFOs". And ask if anyone has read it, & what you thought?

Recommended to me last year. I hadn't read any UFO literature before because i knew that i didn't know where to start. Really glad i started here. I was impressed with his non-dogmatic take on:
The infrared continuum as the place where diverse alien ecology really becomes verifiable.
DIY ways to verify the presence of orgone energy as the wellspring of biological life (humans & aliens alike).
He wrote some other books but I'll return to finish this one first.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
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Over the past couple of weeks there have been multiple UFO sightings around Las Vegas. Las Vegas is also located just 82 miles from Area 51. Coincidence?
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Interesting.

I saw this yesterday....
They claim it's solved and it was "just flaring" and maybe it was,but I saw videos in other countries of this exact same vertical red glowing thing at dates right before it happened in Texas, which is odd....

 
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