Great to see you again! Thank you for you Honest description of Kratom
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I said that hoping I would.Same way a woman could stay sober 24 years (because my kids are everything), then fall straight into a large vat of opium as soon as they turn 18 and just feel like staying there. My kids are fine, all got their lives fairly well sorted, eldest two are doing very well, always knew they were ambitious but I didn't get to see how that translates in guys in their 20s until now! My youngest son and his girl live with my husband and myself, I'm not lonely or alone, there is a lot of love in our home and not that much work to do, no rent to pay, yay, paid off that mortgage then retired to smoke weed the rest of my life while living on a meagre disability allowance and the generousity of others.
Sounds like a nice life, eh?
It is.
Except for the fricking opium thing.
Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff, I just hate how after many months of non stop oral use my stomach gives up on me.
Now I'm sick. Every sodding morning is the same.
I wake in the early hours to the movement of my bowels and run for the toilet.
Why is my body clearing it out so quickly that I get sick so quickly?
My intake of food has dwindled to next to nothing, it hurts to eat.
I feel I'm just not managing this at all.
So I quit the last two new years in a row, can't do that this year, can't be sick in January, too much to do this year and I'm simply exhausted when I quit.
Only two people here know I use this stuff, my internet friends know but not so much IRL, I'm a respectable person with a good haircut (seriously, the hairdresser made me beautiful again, lol) I wash and keep the place ok. People don't realise I've these junkie tendancies.
It's the time of year I guess, I want to stop this and give myself better health, I feel ill all the time now but I'm really really scared of how it feels when I quit.
Maybe I could do it quickly in the space of five days before it all gets busy around here?
My method is to stop and wait for it all to go wrong, endure what I can for as long as I can, a few days maybe, then I start slapping on buprenorphine patches until I feel relief.
Sounds simple but it's exhausting and soul destroying and the seconds drag by so all those months on the good stuff seems like the identical length of time as those few days in withdrawal.
This is the tapering thread, but I cannot possibly face tapering it, I'm on five times the amount this year compared to last year, if I could manage on less then I would
groundhog day again
It's either I take more or I take less, as I am is making me sick.
For now it'll have to be more, the pain is killing me, rats are gnawing inside my stomach.
Later when I've more time, I'll get back on bupe (then sweat day and night while unable to see fuck all, I don't like the side effects).
How to pick a date?
Hey, I don't mind talking to myself, I've been more nuts than that, but if anyone wants to chip in go for it.
this is just for ideas if someone's doing the same btw, check anything is safe for yourself first, please don't blame me if people are stupid.
How are you getting on?
I've been on methadone for 4 years, I've been tapering for about 4 months. 150mg/day down to 27mg/day! I didn't start feeling anything until about 40 mg. Now it's about you know a milligram at a time it seems like. Of course the easy thing to recommend is to not get on the program at all. About 2 weeks ago I went down to 25 mg and hit the freaking wall. Needless to say I put on the brakes and who knows how long it's going to take now.This is a social/support thread for those who may be tapering. It is meant to be a thread where we can share our experiences in a safe place. Whether you are getting ready to begin the tapering process or if you've been there before and wish to offer your valuable perspective.... Welcome!
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Hi Mods, I noticed we have a few of us discussing our tapering attempts off of our drugs in the past few days. I do so much better when I have the support of someone else going through the same thing at the same time. Do you think a tapering thread would be helpful? Also, would you recommend...bluelight.org
Hey Iceman, the lope and clonidine combo worked to keep me very calm and that was important because at some stage during wds I start to panic and become convinced that I'm dying, so need my DOC, what's the point of quitting if I'm only going to die without it?@papercuts , Good morning, I hope this finds you well , and all who are working to Tame ( and return it to its CAGE) this Horrible/Wonderful journey with Opiates??
I am still on a 5 years Taper!!! well that's a big number
I get down to a kick, do it and with in a week, (I will just have One, shit happens??)
The Physical (Acute) withdrawals suck, but they end eventually , the Mental shit of opiates are a Whole different Beast for me.
Thank you for you continued posting here, it helps me more than i can express. Nice to know I am not alone, and this shit can be beat.
I have worked my way off of so many opiates, down to Norco (10-30mgs/Day) which I take as 5/175
I have Gabipentain, Lope, THC gummies, Kraton, Zolpiden, So from what I have learned the only thing I am missing is, clonidine, 0.8mg per day?
but I also have a constant affordable supplyof my DOC???
Started a methadone taper about 6 weeks ago,2 months maybe. I'm such a big sissy when it comes to being sick off a methadone or opioids I'm scared of being sick and having to function. I have a great job and some days I'm just hanging on by it's ready 150 mg 6 weeks ago down to 27 nowThis is a social/support thread for those who may be tapering. It is meant to be a thread where we can share our experiences in a safe place. Whether you are getting ready to begin the tapering process or if you've been there before and wish to offer your valuable perspective.... Welcome!
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Positive - The Tapering Supportive/Social Thread
Hi Mods, I noticed we have a few of us discussing our tapering attempts off of our drugs in the past few days. I do so much better when I have the support of someone else going through the same thing at the same time. Do you think a tapering thread would be helpful? Also, would you recommend...
Sounds like you're doing great, that is a huge reduction, how has it been so far? I put this off for months being scared because the last couple of times were so much worse.
Prescribed 2mg Ativan x 3 per day, plus 150 mg oxy per day (30 mg IR pills). I quit Ativan cold turkey and had a small seizure, so I tapered off it for about 2 months with no problems or cravings. The oxy was a different story……
From the research I have done…… some people have horrible withdrawals from Kratom, some have zero withdrawals. Mine have been moderate, so I can taper down successfully and jump without much trouble. It seems you fit into the other group, suffering horribly. I’m really sorry to hear that you’re having so much trouble.
Cutting myself off of my DOC was liberating. Even though I was in serious withdrawals, there was a feeling of freedom that came with knowing I was winning. Having access to my DOC but avoiding it was not the same.
Very true.
