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Re: Finale Predictions
Posted: Jun 11, 2007 3:19 AM (6588 of 6680)
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The first show on east coast showed Tony in the restaurant looking at Tony sitting down

Then it showed Meadow inside,The midnight feed did not show Tony looking at Tony, And did not show Meadow inside, so people the network did play games with the ending.
 
Out of 'Whack': Critics Weigh In On 'Sopranos' Finale

By E&P Staff

Published: June 10, 2007 10:45 PM ET

NEW YORK It didn't take long for TV, and other, critics to weigh in online after the fade out of the final episode of "The Sopranos" on HBO.

Just minutes after the final credit, Jonathon Storm at The Philadelphia Inquirer observed, "Creator David Chase cut to black, to end his TV masterpiece 100 percent unresolved." He called the ending, with a tension-filled but ultimately bullet-free gathering of the Soprano family at a restaurant, "the genius of an ending that set up every one of the signs of Mafia doom, without pulling the trigger.

"Nondescript Baseball Cap Guy will forever be drinking coffee in that booth. Gray-Jacket Mook's permanently in the bathroom. The hip-hop gangstas will always be standing at the jukebox. Nobody's whacking anybody."

Frazier Moore of The Associated Press decided that "playing against viewer expectations, as always, [creator David] Chase refused to stage a mass extermination, put the characters through any major transformations, or provide his viewers with comfortable closure. Or catharsis. After all, he declined to pass moral judgment on Tony — he reminded viewers all season what a thug Tony is, then gave him a pass.

"But Chase was true to himself, and that's what made 'The Sopranos' brilliant on Sunday night, and the 85 episodes that went before. The product of an artist with a bleak but incisive vision, 'The Sopranos' has always existed on its own terms. It was challenging and elegant, but seldom tidy.

"The only neat development in the finale was that Leotardo was crushed. Otherwise it was perversely non-earthshaking — just one last visit with the characters we have followed so devoutly since 1999....

"Despite suspicions to the contrary, neither Paulie Walnuts nor Patsy Parisi sold out Tony. And neither was whacked. Dr. Melfi, who kicked Tony out of therapy last week, made no last-minute appearance."

But Alessandra Stanley of The New York Times mused: "There was no good ending, so 'The Sopranos' left off without one.

"The abrupt finale last night was almost like a prank, a mischievous dig at viewers who had agonized over how television’s most addictive series would come to a close. The suspense of the final scene in the diner was almost cruel. And certainly that last bit of song — 'Don’t Stop Believing,' by Journey — had to be a joke....

"Nothing happens. Credits. What? Mr. Chase wanted to end his tale without melodrama or even a splashy denouement. He succeeded."

Nikki Finke of L.A. Weekly, at her Deadline Hollywood blog, said the episode "robbed the audience of closure. And if it were done to segue into a motion picture sequel, then that kind of crass commercialism shouldn't be tolerated. There's even buzz that the real ending will only be available on the series' final DVD. Either way, it was terrible. Apparently, my extreme reaction was typical of the series' fans: they crashed HBO's website for a time tonight trying to register their outrage."

Alan Sepinwall of the show's "home paper," the Star-Ledge of Newark, N.J.: "Whether you were waiting for one of the more popular predicted endings -- Tony in Witness Protection, Tony killed by Phil's guys, Furio and/or the Russian coming back for revenge, what have you -- or just for an ending, period, chances are that cut-to-black had you pulling a William Shatner in 'Wrath of Khan,' pointing your face at the heavens and bellowing, 'CHAAAAASE!!!!!!'

"And yet the finale, both the first 55 minutes of it and that sadistic last scene, fit perfectly with everything Chase has done on this show before....

"Somehow, though, it feels like the perfect final note. Why wouldn't a show that's taken such pleasure in rewriting the rules of storytelling -- from making a sociopathic thug its hero on down -- go out in the least conventional way possible? It may be maddening, but it's what David Chase does."

Charlie McCollum, San Jose Mercury News: "One thing for certain: It was just one last, brilliant example of Chase refusing to live within the conventions of television. In a world where resolution is expected, no previous great television series ever has gone out on such a high note of ambiguity, such a lack of denouement."

David Zurawik of The Sun (Baltimore): "While some viewers will see the ambiguous ending as more in keeping with the sense of realism that the series tried to capture, the case can be made that creator David Chase took an easy way out by leaving so many story lines unresolved -- not to mention the option of making future episodes or a feature film. That is likely to leave some fans feeling ripped off."

Robert Bianco, USA Today: "And now it's over, unless it isn't. Like the diner, the door to a sequel is still open. That's not very nice, but then, why would you expect 'nice' from The Sopranos?" In early voting at USAtoday.com, 58% gave the finale one or two stars, vs. 42% rating it three or four stars.

MSNBC's Gael Fashingbauer Cooper: "The episode definitely had its moments, but few of the possibilities viewers had been discussing for weeks came through. How many of these theories below had you heard bounced around in weeks past? None of them happened....

"If Tony was indeed an anti-hero, the show he helmed came to an anticlimax. There's no question fans will be frustrated. Those who've defended the show all along will claim Chase is brilliant, leaving fans to finish the plotlines in their own minds, while those who had other expectations were likely be furious."
 
Ughh... Reading al lhe interpritaions of the shows ending in the Sopranos forum over at HBO.com is making my head hurt..
 
I can't believe that everyone is going apeshit over there. They're all saying that they're going to cancel their subscription to HBO.
 
AmorRoark said:
I guess I'm the only one that liked the ending. Chase didn't try to end the series with a bunch of fireworks and whistles. It's more realistic, more artistic and closer to Chase's overall style. Everyone's so caught up with closure in multi-media. I guess I'm just not on the same wavelength.

Yup, it was done with honour. There weren't too many non-tacky ways to finish, this owas one of them. Tghe show was getting a tad shaky imo, so it was killed off at a good time in a good way.
 
[S]alvatore said:
I can't believe that everyone is going apeshit over there. They're all saying that they're going to cancel their subscription to HBO.

Fuck HBO and fuck David Chase. I ate his shit and forced myself to keep watching when they killed off Michael Imperioli's character, but the ending was complete and utter bullshit. Fuck HBO now anyways. The Sopranos are over I dont need it anymore. Fade to black open to interpritation bullshit... Fuck that.
 
TopRocka said:
No, it's a cop out.

It's "Shit, I don't know how to end this show without pissing people off, so I'll leave it open ended."

This isn't a "Choose Your Own Adventure" Story.
no, it wasn't. a cop out would be an easy move, look how butthurt you and others are, whining like little girls over the ending. it would have been much easier with any kind of closure. he is looking at serious hate mail after this one :D <~ insert broken smilie in there somewhere.
 
hey you know, i was watching the episode again and the ending isn't as bad as i originally thought. it still pisses me off, though. but, the look on tony's face when carmela walks into the diner makes me think, ya know this guy has something resembling a human soul. after this last half of the season where every episode made him look like more of a piece of shit it was kind of a moment of redemption. he loves his wife and family, he seems to have lost the goomars (sp?) and kind of ratcheted things down a notch in the wake of the mob war.

the ending also cuts out right in the middle of the song on the words "don't stop" which maybe was done purposely to kind of toy with us. on my second pass i'll give this episode more props, but i mean after following this show for so many damn years i would have liked something a bit more conclusive. not necessarily a long bloodbath, either.
 
TopRocka said:
^*ding ding ding* We have a winner!

I think whats really bothering a majority of people is the fact that they spent so many years watching this series. Shit, I hung on every Sunday night to see the Sopranos. I got attached to the show, its the only show I have religiously watched from start to end. I got so attached to one of the characters because I could relate to him and Im sure plenty of other people had thier own relations to other characters and just to end the show with that bullshit ending, so many years of watching, waiting, thinking, hopeing, crying, laughing, about those people that were in your room every Sunday night... I mean I cried when the killed Chrissy. The impact this show has had and the dedication of its viewers... Its a fucking insult to end it like that.
 
DarthMom said:
did anyone catch the new show on after it? it looks as though it has potential.

I cancelled my HBO subscription. It looks like it has potential but the way I was raped with the Sopranos finale Im a little leary getting attached to something new for fear of being ravaged again.
 
my favorite character to watch used to be Adriana, followed by Christopher. ClubbinGuido, i didn't cry when Christopher got killed but my heart felt like it was being squeezed.
i gotta go with majority opinion on the finale here- that ending wasn't worthy of what the show was.
fuck people saying we don't need closure- you DO need closure when you care about the characters so much.
 
why did people like chris so much? i enjoyed his character, but i was happy to see him die. would have enjoyed seeing tony get his comeuppance too.
 
There was something about Christopher I related to and that I found facinating about him. Its sounds stupid but he reminded me of myself. On the outside he was cold hearted individual, and an overall tough guy that lived the life. But on the inside he was a really nice guy that struggled with himself and hurt more than the world could understand and he would just tune out with heroin sometimes to deal with the everyday bullshit of having to fill those shoes. He was just a person who took a wrong turn in the forest that is life and ended up lost and at the gates of hell but he made an attempt to repent but found it hard because of ridicule from others and himself. I know he was just an actor playing a role but I fucking felt for him when he died because he never had a chance to atone like he wanted for his sins.
 
[S]alvatore said:
I can't believe that everyone is going apeshit over there. They're all saying that they're going to cancel their subscription to HBO.


Pure stupidity... maybe if they paid attention to what Meadow has been saying throughout the series/ and what she was doing the last few seconds of the finale, they would get the pure genius of the writer(s) and the finale
 
ClubbinGuido said:
There was something about Christopher I related to and that I found facinating about him. Its sounds stupid but he reminded me of myself. On the outside he was cold hearted individual, and an overall tough guy that lived the life. But on the inside he was a really nice guy that struggled with himself and hurt more than the world could understand and he would just tune out with heroin sometimes to deal with the everyday bullshit of having to fill those shoes. He was just a person who took a wrong turn in the forest that is life and ended up lost and at the gates of hell but he made an attempt to repent but found it hard because of ridicule from others and himself. I know he was just an actor playing a role but I fucking felt for him when he died because he never had a chance to atone like he wanted for his sins.
i see what you are saying, i guess though something as cold as killing your loved one just put him beyond the realm of acceptance.
 
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