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I snorted a pretty big bump of 2C-E (maybe ~10-15mg, too much, burned like hell) when I was still in high school and had ended up with this little red baggie with half a gram in it. I was staying at my dad's house (parents divorced) and decided to walk to a Chinese restaurant but when I sat down like 45 minutes later having finally arrived not only could I not understand anything on the menu but I was having serious difficulty communicating with the waitress. I pretended to have an emergency come up and left. When I got home I realized I didn't even have any money.

I honestly consider LSD less "off" than 2c's the 2 C family makes me kinda crazy. Don't get me wrong I dig em, shit if I had 2 C E in front of me I would do a bump right now. And you know what, acid makes me kinda crazy too but it's MY kinda crazy and I think that's why people probably prefer different psychedelics and drugs in general. Some stuff just gels with us better than others.


God I need to trip now that I have a job. It's been months.
 
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I have never tried another 2c-x apart from 2C-D. It didn't do it for me at all. It was very different from 2C-C and I would be unable to function on it comfortably like this. 2C-C is sheer comfort for me, and it enhances my awareness to what I believe is my full potential. I am captivated by anything and everything in my environment. It's turning me from an introvert to an extrovert, or combining both characteristics by eliminating the ability to be scared or shy. I could use 2c-t-2, 2c-t-7, 2c-d, or 2c-e instead, but I haven't even thought of trying another 2c-x psych since I discovered 2C-C.

I think it's really interested how all of our personality types lead us to different psychedelic preferences, My other psychedelic of choice is DMT. Every time it is amazing, and I used it every day for a month this summer and loved every trip so much and grew to become comfortable with it very much. I cannot handle lsd or any of its analogues for me... they essentially give me panic attacks and bad trips a lot of the time. I have had insane experiences with them, really far out, but I got nothing out of it. I couldn't think straight and it was hard to remember and I wasn't always comfortable. Mushrooms leave me physically uncomfortable, hard to digest these days. And when I ate a quarter of them this summer, I forgot that I was human. I forgot everything about myself, but I retained my sense of logic. It took me about an hour to figure out or realize what my name was, and then everything about my life came flooding back. Oh, right! I like this, I like that, I have a brother etc. I don't know if that's ego death, but it really wasn't all that transformative for me. The experience was crazy and I loved it, but it didn't change me at all at the end of the day.

DMT definitely changed me, to this very day. However, I cannot function on it as I am laying down sedating having a mind blowing sensory experience for 15 minutes. 2C-C, I can truly function on a higher level. I've even discovered new passions this week, like photography, and been in touch with my journal entries too. I've met more new friends and had more interesting conversations than I probably have in the past year.

I feel like 2C-C was designed for me, whereas any other 2c-x would just be experimental and with limited use. I don't even think I would try any of the others. It's really neat how some of us reach a similar space with acid, or 2c-I, or mushrooms, or 2c-t-7. I think it has a lot to do with differing personalities and physiology. I'm glad that I found what I consider the ideal psychedelic for me. I'm going to use it for as long as I need to, and ensure I get some solid clean time in this time before these new amazing habits become habitual and I have been transformed and can stop using it so much.

Oddly enough I've never been happier and I'm supposed to be in oxycodone withdrawal. I'd like to hit some DMT on this stuff, I wonder if you can shoot up 2-CC. My nose burns quite a bit from the stuff, but I prefer to rail it over taking it orally. Although, I think tomorrow I will take a high oral dose, Perhaps 60mg which I guess is pretty moderate. 80 at most. Never even knew about 2c-x drugs until I was older and only tried them first in my mid 20's. I was having beautiful visuals from 2c-d, but it wasn't doing anything for me and left me with a headache. 2C-C is turning me into a photographer, naturalist, writer, it enhances my whole entire life and makes me giggle so much too but it isn't say heroin euphoria which is blinding. Worst decision of my life. With this Sacred Key I am not sober, and also not impaired. I'm sure it's not for everyone too... some may find it boring, or have almost any reaction to it that isn't what I'm getting out of it which is essentially approoching the ideal version of myself. It's the best therapy I have ever experienced.

Typing is a little hard when I'm tired late at night with my candle shrine going and the screen is appearing as neon green, yellow, violet, and red hues. Yet I can still function very well. I'm going to get a great sleep tonight,
 
When I took MDMA I would get visuals, but again, I was taking 200mg.


me too but more at like the half gram mark
used to see faces everywhere

also never had the opportunity to try anyhting other than 2-cb or BK-2-cb, any noticeable differences in the varying 2-somethings?
 
Oh absolutely, from the two that I tried I know there must be. 2C-C and 2C-D were completely different to me and the difference is a chlorine versus a methyl group on the molecular structure. For 2C-B vs 2C-C, it is a bromine vs. a chlorine which is even more similar, but again I hear they have quite noticeable differences. 2C-E, 2C-T-2, and 2c-T-7 (the latter two have sulphur atoms as a part of the strucuture) just seem completely crazy and I'd be very cautious getting into those ones.

I'd be weary of trying too many of them. One of them likely dislikes me. If I was going to try another one anytime soon it would be 2C-I, but I missed out on that one and it seems to have vanished. Too bad... I'd really like to try it.
 
I'd be weary of trying too many of them. One of them likely dislikes me. If I was going to try another one anytime soon it would be 2C-I, but I missed out on that one and it seems to have vanished. Too bad... I'd really like to try it.

I've had a great time figuring out how different 2Cs hit me. I have to think it's better to know which chems 'dislike' you than to not, sort of gives an idea of your body chemistry. For instance, none of the 2Cs I've tried so far have made me puke except 2C-P and 2C-t-7, which were almost exclusively puking. On the other hand 2C-E has always been magnificent, so I figure 2C-t-2 would be absolutely mind-blowing for me.
 
It took a while, but yes, meth definitely has a visual thing--and I don't mean like seeing things move in the dark out of the corner of your eye (it does that too). Definite problem with edges around objects, color flashes when moving my eyes, and yeah, seeing clear-as-day objects everywhere in short bursts.

As for 2C drugs, I don't where you bastards get those.

I haven't had 2c-I in years. I had a friend who once gave me some 2c-E, though I can't really consider them a friend. More like an acquaintance. Another person had 2c-I and I didn't mind paying for it, as I didn't feel like acquiring a large amount of it and having it on hand, etc. It was just like, in the community, like heroin was.

Methamphetamine gives me the same psychedelic imagery I would get from 2c-_ series drugs, cannabis, etc. Not hallucinations, just visuals. I think most people just get high from it, and may or may not hallucinate. Many people report no visuals from meth or cannabis.

I did quite a bit of research, something about COMT suppression...something. I'm so stupid. I like visuals so it doesn't bother me.

Even if I abstain from *ALL DRUGS* including caffeine, alcohol, cannabis, I still wake up seeing visuals now. I don't think of it as problematic, but I do try to keep track of it for what it's worth. Like OOH LOOK HOW FAT I AM when I get on a scale. So fat.
 
You have a sardonic sense of humour man.

I once took about a gram of the purest Mdma I have ever acquired, in the mountains, and had a lovely evening roaming around the trails in the setting sun. When I got back to my place, I had redosed so many times (I am a fellow fool) that I began to have not visuals, but a visionary experience whenever I closed my eyes. Like nothing I've ever experienced before. Whenever I closed my eyes I would be dissociated into otherworldly realms where the spirits or whoever I was experiencing looked like cartoon characters. It was like nothing I've ever seen... like being in a 3 dimension cartoon but I would open my eyes and be just myself really high on Mdma. Had brain zaps for a few days after that, was late for work and kept it going and it was was a major part in me being fired, as I was also dropping a lot of acid out there too.

Maybe that's why I'm special now. When I took meth (orally, but very good), it felt like a more controllable version of Mdma. I quite liked it, but I very clearly have a proclivity for 2C-C and DMT these days, as well as copious numbers of joints each day.
 
Jesus you guys do high doses of MDMA! I take like 90 mg with no amphetamine tolerance and at times that can be uncomfortable and overwhelming.

The last time I rolled was like 3 years ago though so no telling how it would affect me now, I have put on weight since then.
 
not any more for me man - i get wayyy too sloppy on mdma, even the smallest bit can sometimes make me black out for a while
i much prefer cleaner stims/tons of heroin
 
Yeah I just remember like any and everything was PAINFULLY emotional at one point. When that happened it wasn't fun any more. It was unsettling having that much empathy, either I'm just not used to being super empathetic or MDMAs particular forced brand of interconnectedness just puts a strain on my personality type.

I felt as if it was my duty to save everyone from each other and themselves like an overwhelmed planetary parent.
 
yeah watching people take big shots of meth can really help you decide to not do it. i've seen guys look they were gonna stroke out after a shot. that and my one experience with shooting it, and the needle was my, i'll never get that bad
 
The American heart association now considers 130+ high BP. It used to be 140+. That probably doesn't bode well for amp users
 
I really dislike Mdma I have to say it. I like to be in control of myself, and I feel like Mdma alters my personality too much. I can make decisions that I will regret afterwards... that would never, ever happen on 2C-C. I am more in touch with myself than ever before.

Anyone watched Inherent Vice before? Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, one of my favourite films ever. I have already seen it twice but watching it tripping on 2C-C and stoned as a rock it is like SEEING it for the first time. Paying attention to every little detail and it won't be enough to watch it a third time. I'm going to have to watch this several times more in the future, it's going to take me like 6 hours to watch, I'm chatting with a couple friends of mine who appreciate it too and taking notes and stuff. The opening scene... I felt her sadness so much that it brought me to tears. I never even noticed she was sad before. And he smokes unfiltered joints... I'm gonna start doing that to pay homage to this work of art.

My buddy told me most people he tells to watch it dislike it.
 
I really dislike Mdma I have to say it. I like to be in control of myself, and I feel like Mdma alters my personality too much. I can make decisions that I will regret afterwards... that would never, ever happen on 2C-C. I am more in touch with myself than ever before.

Anyone watched Inherent Vice before? Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, one of my favourite films ever. I have already seen it twice but watching it tripping on 2C-C and stoned as a rock it is like SEEING it for the first time. Paying attention to every little detail and it won't be enough to watch it a third time. I'm going to have to watch this several times more in the future, it's going to take me like 6 hours to watch, I'm chatting with a couple friends of mine who appreciate it too and taking notes and stuff. The opening scene... I felt her sadness so much that it brought me to tears. I never even noticed she was sad before. And he smokes unfiltered joints... I'm gonna start doing that to pay homage to this work of art.

My buddy told me most people he tells to watch it dislike it.

Inherent Vice would be a book by Pynchon, and no, I would care to read it, not see it. I read Gravity's Rainbow and it was simply amazing.

MDMA is one of my least favorite psychedelics and stimulants; MDA is superior IMO.
 
I think I can understand that about you, I didn't realize it was a book. I think I would really enjoy that too.

The movie, you have to pay attention to every single moment and it's easy to get lost, but it's all about experiencing it for what it is and paying attention to the details. I have a friend who watches it over and over and over again and learns something new every time. I am 32 minutes in, and it has been all afternoon... loving it so much,

The part about the wife when doc visits her house and she talks about heroin withdrawal, scoring, the long term effects (with the runaway husband in hiding)... I had to stop the movie for half an hour and dwell on the error of my ways. (don't know if that's in the book, man thank you, I need to read it after watching the movie several times more). She changed the course of my journey. I will be watching this 2 hour movie until sunrise, and I will never smoke a joint with a filter in it again.
 
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I don't really consider MDMA a psychedelic. It's an empathogen being that it causes a sense of empathy.... Whether that empathy is on point or not is another story. MDMA is something to be used in a more than one person setting. The one time I did it alone as I wanted to IV it (was amazing) and I was just slightly overwhelmed and spent the whole time cuddling with my dog. If my dog wasn't there it would have sucked.

That being said MDMA is amazing when dosed right. If you get pure stuff weigh it out to 1-1.5 mg/kg followed by a 0.5-0.75 mg/kg around 3 hours after the first dose or when the come up gets past peak and plateaus to get a really strong and long lasting roll that is just on the borderline of overwhelming, but not too much if done right. Plus make sure you take breaks and take care of yourself in between rolls...

If you follow my dosing guide you'll be set
 
I feel like I had it right last time I used it. I followed shulgin's advice, to dose 30 - 50% your original dose I believe 30 minutes later and not to redose again. I took 150mg total, and it was a beautiful experience and I gained a new friend out of it (who I met on here) and we talked all night long in this huge intellectual discussion that honestly led me to leave my body at one point it got so intense and out of this world and heated (he was on meth, up for a few days)... and he said he could feel me transforming. Just on the phone... cost me like 300 bucks haha... I make very stupid decisions.

I gained a wonderful lifelong friend out of that experience and that was worth every silly rave I ever went to and hit up women I normally wouldn't be interested in, just to feel awkward afterwards as the connection just wasn't real. Last time, it was. We have been buddies ever since, we have helped each other out in so many ways, and we have even talked today and have lovely ideas for the future together. I really care about him, he is one of my greatest friends. I believe this happened in March of this year.

So I do owe something to Mdma. After using it perhaps 50 times, that is the one thing I got out of it. One of the greatest, most intelligent men I have ever met, and it was our first time talking too. Then, we built trust and I trust and cherish him with all my heart.

I've always been scared to take MDA. I don't know about that one... I had it once and gave it to a friend who said it was really amazing stuff (actually, just gave... I don't believe there should be an exchange of money between friends for spirit molecules and that's the only thing I would ever go about it). I get enough out of helping someone to experience something new, and expect nothing in return. Mdma is already SO hard on the body and that's why I won't really take it anymore. I crash really hard these days, and can be emotionally unstable for weeks afterwards (in subtle ways, that might not be noticeable until after the journey).

This work of art, masterpiece of a film is shattering my mind to pieces. I will be watching it off and on until sunrise as I keep getting distracted and going off on tangents and talking to my brother and close friends and family.
 
Doing it by mg/kg is very important too. If the dose is too high teeth grinding and other scouting effects come in, but at the right dose the booster can easily push it to coming down 6 hours later at least if not 8
 
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