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Heroin the smoking heroin thread

cassandragemini

Bluelighter
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hey team

im an avid fan of heroin smoking and im interested in getting some info together to make the experience as safe, efficient, practical and enjoyable as possible. ive got a reasonable amount of experience but i am no pro, i would love to get a bunch of different peoples opinions on how to go about getting the job done right. any knowledge on anything concerning smoking h would be appreciated.

ill start off by explaining the way ive taught myself to smoke;

1. buy heroin (number 4 heroin in my part of the world, smokes very nicely)

2. cut a 200mm x 200mm piece of aluminium or tin foil, what ever you like to call it, place one half diagonally on the edge of a bench, table or desk so one corner is pointing out, half on the bench, half off if that makes sense. place something with a bit of weight on the corner on the table to keep it secure, it doesnt have to be very heavy. i try to keep the foil as flat and crease free as possible so i have a nice flat controllable surface, small holes in the foil can cause the h to combust which gives me a massive fright and is a terrible terrible waste.

3. chop up and scoop heroin onto the foil. i usually use .1g each time and i usually put the h at least 30mm from any one side of the foil to avoid the fumes than can come off the underside of the foil and to reduce the risk of the h combusting. i try and make an even spread but it can be a bit fiddly and i have had it fling off and get lost it in the carpet before. i also smoke with the dull side up though i recently heard shiny side up is better health wise. there are a lot of conflicting arguments regarding the danger of aluminium smoke but its a safe bet to say that it probably isnt something your really body needs.

4. i use a toilet paper tube to smoke through, its nice and easy to catch all of the smoke, the only downside is you cant really see what youre doing that well and you cant scrape it for residue later on. also i try to get about 10mm from the foil, the closer the better but sometimes the foil will stick to tube via suction (like a vacuum cleaner sucking on a sheet of paper), it doesnt really do anything its just annoying.

5. i try and strike the lighter in the shortest bursts possible so i dont burn any, the hits arent as big but i smoke it pretty quickly to make up for it. some people dont get a rush of smoking but i get a nice one, certainly nothing overwelmingly euphoric but nice none the less.

6. bound across the road to the park, lie down on the grass and relax in the sun. or lie on the couch if its raining. i find its best just to relax and enjoy the first 15 - 20 minutes after smoking, once its subsided i usually go and have a cigarette and get back whatever it is im doing.

please by all means rip my method to shreds and call me an ignorant fool if you like, i personally would love to see everybody get together and create a solid body of information about smoking h and in the benefit of harm reduction and enlightenment (nice plug for you there bluelight) and any and all facts and opinions would and will be greatly appreciated.

one more thing; one question i do have after reading through a crack forum and havent been able to answer using the search engine is does h absorb pretty much instantly through the lungs or is there any benefit to be had by holding it in?
 
I dont mind that you or others smoke heroin, I just hope everyone who does do it realizes that its one of the most inneficient ways of using heroin period(probably the most inneficient). But, that doesnt make it wrong or anything, ive done it before too and did get high, but not nearly as high as I would have if I had snorted or IV'ed the same amount. But if thats what you like to do, more power to you. As long as your being safe im happy.

Good luck and have fun.
 
your thinking to much.

Use a straw. Plus, you don't have to fold foil any special way. just use a uncreased piece.

Hold smoke in as long as you can. When you exhale, you should barely see any smoke.

I recommend IV'ing it. Your really wasting your dope and money.

Have fun and be safe!

Oh ya, if you cook up your dope and shoot it up your nose, you will get a lot more use out of it and it will work much better.
 
ive only ever smoked it as its least way to od and its least addictive. and each hit (you should get like 15-20 if ur doing it right) gives you a great wonderful head rush
 
yeah use a straw, easier to see, control, and you can take hits for waaaaay longer cuz its thin. plus you can cut it open to get all the built up residue out.

I also smoke dull side up, and burn the whole shiny side with the lighter before smoking to get all the crap burnt off. Some people say this doesnt do anything but you can see the smoke and you can definitely smell it burning for the first few passes.

I use a piece of foil thats like 3-4 inches by 7 inches usually. I just hold it by one corner and smoke that way.

I always wonder about holding in the hits too, and usually do anyway.


ALso i dont think theres a "least addictive" way to do heroin, youre gonna get hooked any way you go. As soon as a switched from snorting oc to smoking tar i got this foil obsession on top of heroin addiction where i just want to smoke something and run it down the foil.
 
yeah, i'd say use a straw - much more efficient than a toilet paper tube.

my personal preference is to cut the top part of a pop bottle off so you have a funnel-shaped piece of plastic.
take a square of tinfoil and fold it so that the sides cover the bottle, and you can suck the smoke through the hole where you drink from.

it's simple enough and you don't waste any smoke - makes me wonder why i never see anyone using these.
 
If you use a piece of foil made into a "straw shape" then you can smoke the remaining residue that collects on the sides.
Either that or use a bit of paper in the same way and scrape it off with a small blade.
 
If you use a piece of foil made into a "straw shape" then you can smoke the remaining residue that collects on the sides

Which will be clear, almost entirely pure and very much stronger than the product you started out with. It's very worthwhile.

If you do insist on using a straw (and I really wouldn't myself) be careful it doesn't heat up to melting (or even worse, burning) point. The taste of molten drinking straw is worse than DMT and dogshit together.
 
If you use a piece of foil made into a "straw shape" then you can smoke the remaining residue that collects on the sides.
this works too with my bottle method - resin gathers on the sides of the bottle and you can simply sweep it with a piece of tinfoil and smoke that.
 
Which will be clear, almost entirely pure and very much stronger than the product you started out with. It's very worthwhile.

If you do insist on using a straw (and I really wouldn't myself) be careful it doesn't heat up to melting (or even worse, burning) point. The taste of molten drinking straw is worse than DMT and dogshit together.

I've also noticed this yes :) If you get enough it can be rather strong indeed!
And yup yup, I'd like to add this to what Fornax said too - Watch out for the wrath of the molten plastic ;)

Oh, and to the OP - If you use a tooting tube that's thinner in diameter then you tend to get better suction from it :)
I managed to convert my mate who used to use a toilet paper tube to using a thinner tooter, and I think he uses foil now.
 
yeeah, molten plastic definitely isn't a treat for the lungs. i lucked out and found a really strong gatorade bottle though, it's lasted me a good couple months with almost daily usage and shows no signs of dying any time soon ;)
 
i gave it a shot with a straw when i first started and found i lost a lot more smoke than i did with a tp tube. i guess everyone has there preferences, ill give it another try when i get home in a couple of days, along with the other ideas. i guess you need to create a bit of suction with a straw, with a tp tube you just inhale slowly, it actually works really well. does anyone have any solid evidence on whether holding the smoke in is worth it? i generally hold it in for a few seconds.

the reason i smoke is because i dont want to go near needles. ive given it serious thought and even been into a needle exchange to get some but i got dissuaded by one of the clinic nurses, not that i put up much of a fight. its just a risk im not willing to take, i have absolutely no problem with people who do shoot though. snortings is ok but its a bit boring, smoking is fun and challenging plus i personally find the hit to be stronger. but it is shorter lived. how many people here end up getting way to stoned because they enjoy smoking weed through their favourite contraption so much? the act almost becomes the drug itself in a way.
 
You need to make sure it's not too thin but not too wide either ;)
That way you get great suction but without losing any smoke :)
I'm glad you didn't get into shooting too.

p.s. Nice Radiohead bearhead ^_^
 
i gave it a shot with a straw when i first started and found i lost a lot more smoke than i did with a tp tube. i guess everyone has there preferences, ill give it another try when i get home in a couple of days, along with the other ideas. i guess you need to create a bit of suction with a straw, with a tp tube you just inhale slowly, it actually works really well. does anyone have any solid evidence on whether holding the smoke in is worth it? i generally hold it in for a few seconds.

the reason i smoke is because i dont want to go near needles. ive given it serious thought and even been into a needle exchange to get some but i got dissuaded by one of the clinic nurses, not that i put up much of a fight. its just a risk im not willing to take, i have absolutely no problem with people who do shoot though. snortings is ok but its a bit boring, smoking is fun and challenging plus i personally find the hit to be stronger. but it is shorter lived. how many people here end up getting way to stoned because they enjoy smoking weed through their favourite contraption so much? the act almost becomes the drug itself in a way.


I understand that you like to use your method, but you did ask for suggestions, and people are letting you know the best method to do it.

And when it comes to snorting it, it may be "boring," but your getting a lot more use out of your dope, not to mention you will save money and get higher.

when it comes to using a straw VS a tp roll, suction is the main reason why.

have fun and take care!
 
i gave it a shot with a straw when i first started and found i lost a lot more smoke than i did with a tp tube.

I used a similar method to begin with. One time I tried smoking crack a similar way, having barely tried it before.

It took seconds before the tube had caved in due to the vast amounts of saliva I'd dribbled all over it... strangely innocent times.
 
i just gave it a go with a straw and it worked really well, i think i might stick with that from now on. i like the idea of being able to salvage the resin too. id like to try smoking through a vapouriser, someone mentioned it on another thread and said it worked quite well. i also heard people smoke it through a stove top tea pot, they put it over the element and suck through the spout. sounds like a good way to burn your gear. does anyone know if it any good smoking through a meth pipe? it would dirty the pipe up pretty quickly i imagine.

new album coming out soon man! cant wait eh, h + pyramid song + lying in the sun = awesome.

another thing, does anyone find antihistamines help with the itchiness you get from gear? im still not really sure but im going to take some anyway because i am freaking itchy.
 
another thing, does anyone find antihistamines help with the itchiness you get from gear? im still not really sure but im going to take some anyway because i am freaking itchy.

Absolutely, yes. Diphenhydramine is my usual option, but many people have their own favourite. I really like to scratch myself bloody sometimes though. Maybe that says something about me...
 
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