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Phenethylamines The Small & Handy 2C-EF Thread

white55 said:
This one popped up back on the market in the eu, anyone had a chance to try it?
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If you're referring to the vendor that sells it in 2mg capsules then I doubt it's real. Too suspicious that the vendor started selling it like a month ago right before the Dutch blanket ban, especially considering that the synth is lengthy and costly.
 
They do stock some obscure materials that have raised doubts in the past, but have been found to be the 'real deal' when tested, so they do have some track record in this department...

Personally, I rather wish someone would synth a final batch of 2c-c before the portcullis comes down.
 
Everytime I see this thread, I feel sad. Maybe today is the day I finally take some of the fake 2C-EF I received out of storage and see how I like it. Maybe if it's a good combo, I won't feel so bummed. Xorkoth liked it, iirc.
 
idle_curiosity said:
So, some random organo-phosphorous compound... that's pretty alarming.
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Yeah I have been on a soapbox on vendors and quality. I was sort of spoiled, any goodies given to me were vetted by others first who know. But just reading posts it seems way to common for a vendor to send the wrong chem or name any chem whatever they want. But my hope is we have people of integrity in some of these areas that want to send out top quality and vetted stuff in the future once quality really matters to everyone.

I remember the fake 2C-EF some years back. But just from this post. Shameful. It has to turn around. I am not sure I would venture out myself to a vendor. So I say thanks for all the gifts given to me some years back. Vetting is not something I can do with chemicals.

It is also shameful the 2C's have all but went the way of the dinosaur. Wonderful substances. I picture a return when all psychs are legal.
 
Psychestim said:
If you're referring to the vendor that sells it in 2mg capsules then I doubt it's real. Too suspicious that the vendor started selling it like a month ago right before the Dutch blanket ban, especially considering that the synth is lengthy and costly.
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This was actually sent to Kykeon (see the reddit post) by me and confirmed. Not sure if it's allowed but i will post the full analysis report here:

 
I have tried the pure 2c-ef orally at approximately 8-9 mg. If I had to make a guess at the potency it could be comparable to 5-meo-mipt. But I do get visuals from 5-meo-mipt so that comparison might not say much to some. It was a light dose, a good body high without tensions and light but dark visuals.

It reminded me of de dark visuals I experienced on 2c-e, but I have only experienced that one twice nasally because I am hesitant because of the reported gut rot when taken orally, while titrated insufflation gave me nose bleeds for like the first time in my life... And so I can't compare the potency to that. But I can say from my limited experience that 2c-ef has been light on the body without gut troubles. I did not note the duration of the stages, but I managed to fall asleep at around 7-8 hours after dosing.

I saw someone compare it to a cross between 2c-i, 2c-b and 2c-c. I was excited to experience the visual aspects of 2c-i again, but as of yet I don't recognize any of those in this one. 2c-i for example gave me very unique (in my experience) neon lasers on edges and details of objects (also on low dosages), and this one gave no neon colors at all. But a higher dose will shed more light on it's qualities, I'm sure.
 
Not that anyone would take my word as particularly credible, unlike a few BL titans on here, but yes it is DEFINITELY 2C-EF, Seen the NMR and MASS spec, ridiculously i've not fed any myself yet! All work and no play and all that.. Quite exciting thou! May stock up if it's good before it comes unavailable. Will post a trip report if it's as good as i hope it's gonna be!
 
I did 11-12 mg orally yesterday, for me personally it turned out to be a high dose, not heavy, but I wouldn't want much more than that. The visuals were somewhat chaotic, and don't know if they will become more to my liking with an even higher dose. I could easily recognize the visuals as being 2 dimensional plates sliding into eachother, so paying attention to the visuals made them seem to be rather flat (literally).

5-meo-mipt also gave me this recognition of the visual's consistency, and I remember being overwhelmed and bored by them at the same time on high doses. So I hope this is not something that happens with this one.

I would be careful dosing too high because it does appear to be quite potent. 14 mg would be my next (perhaps final) step but I am thinking of taking a brake from this and probably going to do 2c-e next time.

This description of the experience makes it appear the experience was less great than it was, but I actually had a great evening and the visuals themselves did enhance the experience. And besides that the psychedelic nature was very much to my liking, so in totality it was good.

I was still peaking at +4 hours, and started to come down at 5. But only fell asleep at 9 hours in.
 
Pralus said:
Not that anyone would take my word as particularly credible, unlike a few BL titans on here, but yes it is DEFINITELY 2C-EF, Seen the NMR and MASS spec, ridiculously i've not fed any myself yet! All work and no play and all that.. Quite exciting thou! May stock up if it's good before it comes unavailable. Will post a trip report if it's as good as i hope it's gonna be!
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As promised..Here's my 2- cents.
Dose: 10mg. Taken at 2am, orally. Not the brightest of timings i'l grant you, but I couldn't wait any longer, so.... Along with some light beer along with a few bumps of amphs that i'd been taken to keep up/awake with my friend who's basically nocturnal. My mind set had been terrible, I'd been very anxious with work and stuff so wouldn't say I was in a brilliant mind set at all. An hour goes by, nothing, zippo, Hee haw. Then, very gradually, first alerts around show up 1.5h. By the 2h mark i'm properly in, wow definitely a long come up, almost akin to a DOX's. I would say don't re-dose until 3h's in and you can tell if you fancy a bit more. I have some experience with 2C-B and along with my friend who has also we think 10mg 2C-EF is equal to circa 25mg of 2C-B HBr salt, though for me it felt more gentle and less body load, but like every drug experience it's subjective.
We go out for a walk, my legs are a bit drunk along with the rest of me and I'm feeling very relaxed. We smoke a joint and generally laugh at the funny visuals and the relaxed heavily tipsy feeling we both have which was very enjoyable, For the first time in a few days I'm feeling positive and optimistic, a stark change from my previous headspace. I think we must have peaked around the 6 hour mark, then back home where we giggle at most of the trippy conversations and nonsense that ensued. Excellent party stuff. not too serious, perhaps at slightly lower dose and maybe 15mg if you want some proper immersion. What a rare compound I finally got to experience. Shulgin was right about it being a treasure in the 2C list but slightly off on the dosage. 20-30mg it isn't, 7-18mg I recon. Def one to keep in the emergency party box.
 
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Psychestim said:
If you're referring to the vendor that sells it in 2mg capsules then I doubt it's real. Too suspicious that the vendor started selling it like a month ago right before the Dutch blanket ban, especially considering that the synth is lengthy and costly.
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Can’t believe that I’m saying this but it seems like it could be legit... I stand corrected.

I ran the NMR today and it looks like there‘s a lot of water in the sample which matches the pasty consistency of the 2C-EF. Maybe the HCl salt is hygroscopic, it wasn't dried properly or there was some water in the d-DMSO, whatever it is, the H-NMR spectrum looks promising.



I also submitted a sample to an external testing facility for UHPLC-MS analysis but the data will not be public. This testing facility only tells you the results over the phone/mail but they don‘t give out spectra unfortunately.
 
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Sounds like lovely stuff. I consoled myself with having missed it with some 2C-B over the weekend, which was truly lovely.

I'm glad this is sounding like a promising material.
 
Psychestim said:
I ran the NMR today and it looks like there‘s a lot of water in the sample which matches the pasty consistency of the 2C-EF. Maybe the HCl salt is hygroscopic, it wasn't dried properly or there was some water in the d-DMSO, whatever it is, the H-NMR spectrum looks promising.
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Yes, it does. A broad singlet of -NH3+, two singlets of CHarom. (confirming para-substitution), CH2F as a dt with a large coupling constant 2JHF, two very close singlets of the methoxy groups, and a multiplet of the three remaining CH2 groups. Everything is on its place, at least apparently.
 
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I sampled ~10 mg (11 ± 2 mg to be picky) of this yesterday, on an empty stomach. It has a notably long but smooth come-up, I'd say about 45 minutes to first alerts and doesn't really hit its stride for a couple of hours, but there's very little in the way of body load, jitters or anxiety. A very pleasant and friendly vibe to it, music was definitely enhanced and I could certainly see that it would be good for dancing, while not being particularly energetic. Visuals were somewhat missing at first, mainly just a bit of brightening and colour aberration, but after about four hours or so, I was seeing more patterns and mandalas with eyes closed (my visual cortex is on the easier end with respect to triggering). It was still going at the 6+ hours point, although beginning to slowly descend, when I ate ~30 mg MXiPr, but at a guess I reckon it was likely to tail off around the 8 hour mark.

I'd say out of 2C-B, 2C-C, 2C-D or 2C-E, it's closest to 2C-B, but a little more refined.

Two thumbs up - would do again.
 
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