Stimulants The slippery slope of using stims to be productive.

[Bitchniggaz]

In my almost 20years of using rec drugs ive never really got deep into stims.

Ive tried speed and coke a few times each.
However never really enjoyed the effects.
Im a natural introvert and dont really enjoy the stimmy feel and random bullshit conversations people usually fall into while doing them.


However i have been using low doses of medical amphetamines to study.
I prefer pure dex amp (attentin) over the slow release version (elvanse)
Ive tinkered with dosing and 10mg in the morning gives me a nice boost for the whole day.

I avoid using it several days in a row to avoid tolerance and dependency etc.

However most Speed freaks i know also started slow.
And then after some years they were daily users etc.

Anyone have any good stories how you kept the use under control?

Cause i honestly dont get much recreational value out of it.
Not much euphoria or boost in social skills.
(Im quite confident and relaxed in most situations anyway)

The only scenario that has happened is that i end up in front of pornhub after school and beat my meat on the tail end of the buzz.

 

[headfuck123]

Very very slippery slope to use drugs functionally. At least recreationally you can make time for it as a one off, now and again but using drugs to be more functional day to day is a fast track to serious addiction issues. Havnt taken any since april now but I completely ruined myself with speed (eu street speed, not meth or dexamp) and started off like you. Amphetamines really cause a false sense that all is well and under control but for me and most others, it soon turns to daily dosing to function and you look way more fucked up than you think you do.

I was taking it before, during and after work for months til I woke up one day with a nasty infection on my forehead which left a nasty scar and made the lymph nodes all around my face to swell up, not a good look. Also lost over 10kg in a short period of time even eating well and forcing myself to sleep and think I may have perminantly damaged my metabolism due to it being really hard for me to put on or keep on weight. As much as I love speed, I simply can't risk falling flat on my face like that again, so I have to stay away for good now sadly.

If I had access to prescription dexamp, maybe things wouldnt have went so badly wrong but speed is speed and will catch up with you eventually, despite what you might think.

 

[yubacity]

Using stims for a long time I reckon you will crash in the end the mind just goes mine did when i used them to drive a semi i always crashed emotion;y once i cried all the way from bakersfield to yuba city could not stop

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Using stims for a long time I reckon you will crash in the end the mind just goes mine did when i used them to drive a semi i always crashed emotion;y once i cried all the way from bakersfield to yuba city could not stop

I limit my use to 2-3times per week so far.
I may take some kratom on my off days though.
However i dont use that daily either (anymore, but i was on it a year straight before)

Im also going to get some methylphenidate and modafanil.
I also have ephedrine att home.

So my plan is to try using different enhancers non daily so i can have several options on how i can enhance performance and not always use real stims.


But yeah its a calculated risc, in worst case i will get some kind of addiction going.
However i have 1year left of a really tough education.
If i can pull it off i will have a opurtunity for a good career in a field that i really enjoy and feel passionate about.

 

[yubacity]

I limit my use to 2-3times per week so far.
I may take some kratom on my off days though.
However i dont use that daily either (anymore, but i was on it a year straight before)

Im also going to get some methylphenidate and modafanil.
I also have ephedrine att home.

So my plan is to try using different enhancers non daily so i can have several options on how i can enhance performance and not always use real stims.


But yeah its a calculated risc, in worst case i will get some kind of addiction going.
However i have 1year left of a really tough education.
If i can pull it off i will have a opurtunity for a good career in a field that i really enjoy and feel passionate about.

You can give it a go on the crank i would always crash being awake for days on end in the end you crash but your way could work best of luck

 

[woyzeck]

"Anyone have any good stories how you kept the use under control?"

For my mind, your very question goes to the crux of it. There are no good stories when it comes to Stim use.
We cross that line thinking - I'll be fine; Ive got it together, eventually the craving controls and thinks for you.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

You can give it a go on the crank i would always crash being awake for days on end in the end you crash but your way could work best of luck

For me redosing has never been on my mind..
Even if someone is offering me free cocaine i would rarely do more then 2-3lines.

With the dexamp i feel that One 10mg dose keeps me productive for the entire work day.
I did try to space out doses so i took 5mg around 7am, 5mg 11am and one more 5mg around 1pm.
However that day i had to leave early cause i felt too cranked up afterwards.
I also had a hard time sleeping and calming down during the evening.

I really hate residual stimulation, even with caffeine i rarely dose after 2pm.


The only time i did a decent amount of street speed i was upp all night just wishing i could sleep.
There is zero enjoyment for me in states like that.
But maybe its like other drugs that you need to get used to the high etc.
I hope i dont aquire a taste for being strung out though.

I know several speed heads and i really dont want to end up in that loop.
However i really want to ace this education so im going to do my best to do this the right way.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

"Anyone have any good stories how you kept the use under control?"

For my mind, your very question goes to the crux of it. There are no good stories when it comes to Stim use.
We cross that line thinking - I'll be fine; Ive got it together, eventually the craving controls and thinks for you.

Tbf there are millions of people who use ADHD meds.
Not all of them end up getting buttstuffed for meth.



I really try to avoid black and White thinking about various chems.
They are tools that can be harmful or helpful.
We all have different addictive pleasures that we seek.
Drugvise ive never has issues with stims,benzos or opiates at all.
Ive tried a bunch and generally felt that i would rather just smoked some weed instead.

My weakness is basicly just ketamine, ive had periods where ive been high for a week straight shooting up grams per Day.
However that is something i really enjoy doing, so its logical im going to overdo it sometimes.


However im not dysfunctional without stims (not yet att least)
I just enjoy the huge boost in focus, motivation and cognition a few times per week.
I had no issues finishing last year in school without it.
However i feel that i learn alot better if i have this tool att hand.

So in the end i guess its just about finding a dosing routine, that is sustainable so i dont build tolerance or start dosing more days then i planned for.

 

[Older]

In my almost 20years of using rec drugs ive never really got deep into stims.

Ive tried speed and coke a few times each.
However never really enjoyed the effects.
Im a natural introvert and dont really enjoy the stimmy feel and random bullshit conversations people usually fall into while doing them.


However i have been using low doses of medical amphetamines to study.
I prefer pure dex amp (attentin) over the slow release version (elvanse)
Ive tinkered with dosing and 10mg in the morning gives me a nice boost for the whole day.

I avoid using it several days in a row to avoid tolerance and dependency etc.

However most Speed freaks i know also started slow.
And then after some years they were daily users etc.

Anyone have any good stories how you kept the use under control?

Cause i honestly dont get much recreational value out of it.
Not much euphoria or boost in social skills.
(Im quite confident and relaxed in most situations anyway)

The only scenario that has happened is that i end up in front of pornhub after school and beat my meat on the tail end of the buzz.

I believe, it is possible to moderate low dose amphetamines over a long term, provided you have a very precise dise administration, and you can objectively compare your usage week to week and month to month (keep a journal! take a hiatus if your doae climbs above levels specified upfront!) and have 22 years of experience with taking amphetamine at 10mg day as self-medication for ADHD, sometimes subscribed, sometimes bought.

Also one more thing: (besides use a milligram scale / dilution in 1L of distilled water + journal daily consumption) Don't ever use your self-medication DOC recreationally! Even if you take 5mg of MethAmphetamine daily (precisely pre-weighed then encapsulated so you can dose accurately before your mind has woken up for the day!), and all of your friends are smoking meth before you all go out dancing, it is important for you to not disturb your regular dosing routine, because a mind craving dopamine will use any excuse it can find!
Instead, I suggest you should find some other way to spend your evening!