Stimulants The seductive pull of methamphetamine. Advice

[caseface99]

With the gun laws, yeah, BB/pellet guns are consider firearms and you need a firearms license to own one. Also SlingShots are totally illegal whether you have a firearms license or not. The good schools are only good because all the funding goes to them from the shitty schools, at least the northern area i lived in was predominantly republicans, oh yeah, and the medical marijuana? They just changed it so that the number of people allowed to grow the pot is two and enacted a "Low THC Cap". In other words if you are lucky enough to get a prescription while dying of cancer, you're stuck with shwag anyway.

So yeah, with all this and everything you already mentioned, i could keep listing negatives. The positives - not so much.

 

[DexysMidnightRuner]

Jersey can be nice. it does have an amazing school system, 1 hr away from NYC, high income, the mafia, Newark - good and bad. it does however have the best drugs, but its also has the DEA. thats why most kids go to Ptown..a bit safer, no DEA - but not such amazing drugs unless you know the right people. not amazing crack i can tell ya that. but for the most part, there is nothing to do unless you have money. and the cops are dicks unless your female. ive gotten out of atleast 10 speeding tickets going 30 over. ive never once had an asshole cop except the state cop. even the cops in hood werent too bad. but i guess thats cause im female.

as for where you should move..just try to get out of the town your in. maybe like a relative who lives somewhere where you dont know anyone and could prioritize your shit. like i lived in jersey but moved to chicago to get clean. there are plenty of drugs in chicago, dope and meth..but i dont know anyone, so im not about to drive to the west side and try and score..when ive never been there and dont know how things run exactly. yeah a hoods a hood but there are subtle things, things like how things work exactly, where the most cops are, etc. ya know. i wouldnt wanna risk doing something i would normally do in jersey that i completely just a jersey thing and get busted. im not saying move out of your country, but australia is big man, im sure you have some relatives somewhere that you dont know anyone and could attempt to start over. because trying to get your life together and go to school while doing drugs, generally dont work out to well. idk if you wanna stop doing everything or just get away from meth, but either way..moving somewhere other then where you are can deff make a difference. people, places, and things. biig difference.

 

[Project Will]

With the gun laws, yeah, BB/pellet guns are consider firearms and you need a firearms license to own one. Also SlingShots are totally illegal whether you have a firearms license or not. The good schools are only good because all the funding goes to them from the shitty schools, at least the northern area i lived in was predominantly republicans, oh yeah, and the medical marijuana? They just changed it so that the number of people allowed to grow the pot is two and enacted a "Low THC Cap". In other words if you are lucky enough to get a prescription while dying of cancer, you're stuck with shwag anyway.

So yeah, with all this and everything you already mentioned, i could keep listing negatives. The positives - not so much.

Haha it sounds like you have more experience there than I do. I tried not to talk too much shit and keep my tone civil for fear of New Jerseyites getting offended.

That sucks about the medical marijuana there. I went to college in Boulder, CO (recently graduated) and there are more dispensaries than bars. Growers would even pay the cost of the doc visit and the medical card as long as you used them as your "provider." Really good and moderately cheap weed a block from my house at nearly any hour of the day.

I apologize for helping steer this thread completely off topic.

 

[DexysMidnightRuner]

hahahahaha. yeah we are kinda just jersey bashing now. but thats cause it sucks. the only positives i could think of are right there, but i refrained from going on about the negatives because we all know already that jersey sucks.

as to the topic discussion i think we have all come to the same conclusion - that moving would be best. unless there is more..

 

[Depressicaa]

why not use amphetamines? well, first of all because adderall and dexedrine only work for so long. your tolerance goes up so incredibly fast and it stops working quite quickly, and then you have to take like 200+ mgs just to feel normal daily..not even get high, just feel normal enough to "function", so thats like 2 days worth of a script. and then you would have to buy them from people and they can become costly. anywhere between 65 - 140$. secondly because if meth has already been used, adderall and dexedrine wouldnt compare. even if you went so far as to shoot them, it wouldnt compare. plus its so much fucking work to administer it that way that you would most likely just go to meth out of ease. and thirdly, as you stated yourself it still puts you in the same mental state. maybe not to the extreme but your still crazy, and emotional, and cant think straight, and everything either seems amazing or the end all be all. and then you smoke a shit ton of weed to eat, take opiates or a shit ton of otc sleep aids to sleep, the list goes on. it reality high doses of amphetamines really are no better. they just kill you slower.

Meth's long lasting effects aren't better for you, they stop fiending but its even less healthy, not that any drug will last forever anyways.

I have never been at 200mg+ unless it was a multiple day binge.

You don't have to buy them from other people... in fact most people I know don't and just sleep it off. Its a fact of life, you get unmotivated, depressed, lazy and you aren't about to score some more. Lots of people have Concerta, and we see how much work it is, and how they still 'abuse' it even when Adderall is everywhere.

But this is my experience, I can still take under 30mg and feel perfectly motivated. Everyday user as well. I guess its safe to say I am not an addict? No thats not true, I'm just tiiiny.

OP you have an addictive personality. If you can do a psychedelic it might be worth looking into fixing some problems you have. 2CE made me crave amphetamines more, but at least it made me quit for a while. I might just do that again soon.

Moving is the best, but its probably not very likely to happen from what you are describing. You can always find other activities to do.

I guess I did it by taking an amount, limiting myself when I thought, fuck this doesn't work, I should STOP taking it instead of taking more.

 

[aeorowar]

I go back to work tomo0rrow after 2 weeks holiday,

that should be a distraction.

I'm also reading Tweak by Nic Sheff.

Anyone read it ? So far its gritty and raw, good book.

 

[DexysMidnightRuner]

But this is my experience, I can still take under 30mg and feel perfectly motivated. Everyday user as well. I guess its safe to say I am not an addict? No thats not true, I'm just tiiiny.

true, but that takes mad self discipline. at least from my view, if i was to allow myself to start using just 30mg it would lead back up to my full blown addiction again. i love tweaking, and 1 is just never enough. i still have a mad tolerance and the last time i tried i ate over 300mg and still didnt get any effects. and i havnt been physically dependent on it in over 2 years now. amp tolerance takes years to decrease, and thats years of no use. all im saying is that the point of even bothering to take an amp is to tweak no? why bother taking it at all if thats not going to happen. all your doing is keeping your tolerance up and teasing yourself. i mean sure if my tolerance got back down to being able to do 30 again id prob do it, but thats because it would actually work.

if meth has already been tried, then i dont see how 30mg would effect the person in the slightest bit. like what would be the point of even trying that? its best to stay away completely.

the best thing to do if moving is not an option, is yeah to distract yourself. try and avoid the people who use, and delete the numbers of the people who have - like dealers. find something else to do, and if a must just replace it with something like even weed. i know thats not ideal either but smokin alot is at least better then doing meth. chill with people who dont do those things, and just try and stay away..i know alot easier said then done.

 

[Rahcookiemonster]

Update


Stumbled on this thread while search engine diving.

4 years later.


Methamphetamine has caused huge havoc to my life. A few of my friends are dead, and I have pretty much lost every genuine friend/goals that I had. Usage is continuing to rise here and it is every new social group I try and escape into.
The last year or so has been a blur of binging and a steady decline of all my material possessions and wellbeing.

I can't remember the password to this account, but it brought back some memories. How is New Jersey going nowadays?

I hope someone reads this and re-thinks hard stimulant use.
The internet footprint is great to look back through and re-live memories.