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The "Psychedelic/Empathogen Piperazine"(BZP, mCPP, etc.) Thread

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for those who have used psychedelic/empathogen piperazines like BZP, mCPP, or any others, please post experiences, info, comparisons to other drugs, etc. here...

i have only done BZP and mCPP. here's my thoughts:

BZP- stimulant resembles MDMA but is more like speed, MDMA like visual changes, pronounced empathogen qualites but feels "dirtier", shit comedown

mCPP- this one is "tricky", if BZP is the "piperazine version" of MDMA, then mCPP is the "piperazine version" of MMDA. it is mush less stimulating and more psychedelic than BZP as it is a potent 5-HT releaser and agonist, it also releases NAT which gives it it's stimulating effect, but not DAT so it is not like amphetamine, MDMA, or BZP. it can give empathogen effects and euphoria due to its serotogenic action, but can also induce anxiety, dysphoria, and panic attacks. i could compare it most to MMDA, but it is "dirtier".

anybody have any info, experiences, etc. on hallucinogenic piperazines?
 
MCPP-had a comeup, then had some feelings of lite euphoria, then hot/cold....2/10
pFPP-Took it in combo and on its own. On its own it had some cool visual distortions very different than tryps/phens....I was watching a visualizer and little parts were 3D coming out of the screen but in a very very weird way....the body high feels weird...........3/10
 
i say BZP is best as its the most euphoric(in a amphetamine way, and somewhat of a weak empathogen way). mCPP is the more psychedelic, felt somewhat like MMDA but with LSD like visuals at higher doses without spiritual insights.

never tried pFPP... has anybody tried tmfpp?
 
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