The Psychedelic Being

[webbykevin]

Yeeeeeeeeeee Boiiiiiiiii!

That's them shrooms talking son the genius of the fungus! Hahahaha
"See" what I'm saying!
We "see" around the science and the lies we want some troof.
We want support of what is happening to us.
Science hasn't acknowledged this yet because they can't explain it or are afraid to tell us because they use it against us.

We ain't supposed to know! "We are just useless crazy drug addicts, how could we possibly have any clue what is going on" %)

I like to read from the ancients who seemingly had no reason to lie when they spent years carving shyt into walls and paintings that they deemed important enough to spend that time doing. I seem to learn more than what they taught me in school, or failed to teach me I should say.

thank goodness for the free internet to allow me to learn we have more options.
We'll be lucky if they don't take the internet from us like they do in other countries.We have to be aware an pay attention to our freedoms so they don't disappear.


What if I told you that your consciousness is a part of the creator of your soul?
And that's who you talk to on drugs.

No I can't prove it, but myself an quite a few thousand others have come to believe this.

Can you believe we have souls? If not, what powers your animated body?

why does it (your body) stop working when we die then?
why do we rot away when we stop moving and not when we are moving around?

What life force preserves your body for the 50-100 years it will be alive?



They want us to live longer to enslave us and tax us..
In our country, they've actually statistically dumbed us down quite a bit so we make better slaves.
Don't worry, their cover won't last forever and will be blown eventually..
I ask you this...

why are we witnessing the world in turmoil and corruption falling apart before our eyes?
why hasn't "science" done anything to stop it?

I believe this is what the NWO is trying to accomplish behind our backs to be honest..
but according to "the aliens" they may not get the chance.. lol!


In case you guys haven't noticed, we are heading for even tougher times..
http://www.examiner.com/article/dr-doom-2013-prediction-calls-for-economic-perfect-storm

Not that that has much to do with anything..

"the aliens" told me they will wipe the earth again eventually like they did with the dinosaurs and with Noah's flood etc etc. Some of these events are recorded by other religions as well.
not just Christianity.

The christian bible says the world was so corrupt, god told noah to build an ark and load it with a pair of every animal he could so the world could be cleansed.

that is what is going to happen again.

We already loaded human DNA etc etc into space modules in orbit to continue the race in case anything happens. This I can link to if I must.


http://kotaku.com/5030974/richard-garriott-wants-your-dna


Everyone made fun of Noah while he was building the ark but look what happened when the earth was flooded. they can prove it was flooded before too!
My old hometown has sea shells in it's highest mountains surrounding it. Imbedded into the rocks. My hometown was under water at some point.

Also here is my link to Amen = Ra.
Here you go Christians.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amun

Maybe you should ask yourself why you say Ra's name in your christian prayers to Jesus?
Do you even know who you are really praying to?
how can you pray to a god 99% of you have never met?

If you were more in touch with your own soul you'd have a much better chance of really meeting "the creator". these religions distract you from that, ask for tithes (tax) and get you worshiping gods that are just the "Creator's workers". aka "the aliens". not the real "god".
I don't like to call it god myself.
I think it's more along the lines of the creator of the birth and death of our souls.
We bring it information and we can all share it.
It's where we came from and it's where we are all going back.
And it feels AWESOME!

Man we gotta go tripping together someday

 

[eye_wide_open]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lcFDOWIl7Nw
Asprin sells aids around the globe!
I don't think we are exactly trying to extend our lifespan!
Only recently have they announced we can prevent aids with drugs.

I've obviously done too much trippin. lol

I've currently slowed down quite a bit for he time being.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Was I getting a lil' negative vibe-y earlier? If so forgive me, it's a bad habit of mine.

Anyhow, EWO's made a fun lil' post and now we gotta get to work on it~

What if I told you that your consciousness is a part of the creator of your soul?
And that's who you talk to on drugs.

Well, all things are one in the creator of heaven and earth, the one G-d, who was, is, and shall be. He is present in His fullness everywhere, while no arbitrary space can contain any part of Him, nor all of creation.

You shouldn't need drugs to talk to the L-rd, no reason prophecy should be limited to those who attain a certain material possession. That's not to say they can't help you meditate upon and learn of the divine. They aren't forbidden, in any case.

Can you believe we have souls? If not, what powers your animated body?

Biologists got that down pretty good, pick up an anatomy textbook sometime.

why does it (your body) stop working when we die then?

You die BECAUSE your body stops working, not the other way around. It's an intricate system of interdependent parts, you muck one thing up and everything goes kersplat.

why do we rot away when we stop moving and not when we are moving around?

Cells stop regenerating, lack of an immune system, that sorta thing, if you mean why corpses rot. If you mean atrophy, once again go to the biologists.

They want us to live longer to enslave us and tax us..
In our country, they've actually statistically dumbed us down quite a bit so we make better slaves.
Don't worry, their cover won't last forever and will be blown eventually..
I ask you this...

The nice thing about conspiracy theories is that they are part and parcel with the belief that events in the world are directed and under control by people, rather than an unpredictable chaotic mess. Also creates in-group/out-group thinking and a good/evil scenario. Kinda pseudo religious, wouldn't you say?

why are we witnessing the world in turmoil and corruption falling apart before our eyes?
why hasn't "science" done anything to stop it?

People have been complaining that the world is corrupted and falling apart through all of recorded history, doesn't make it so (nor does it make the opposite true). And Science is a method for determining accurate statements about how the world works through experimentation and observation, not a monolithic institution with a will or ability to do something, and we do not live in a technocracy, thankfully. But people are trying to stop the damage we're doing, we're getting more and more efficient energy wise, create less waste, are more mindful in conversation....we have a ways to go yes, but things aren't all bad.

The christian bible says the world was so corrupt, god told noah to build an ark and load it with a pair of every animal he could so the world could be cleansed.

that is what is going to happen again.

Hey hey hey, the Book of Genesis is part of the Torah, just 'cause Christians include it in their canon does not make it a Christian book. It is a Jewish book, revealed to Moses by the L-rd on Mt. Sinai (or if we want to be scholarly about it, it's an amalgamation of texts from multiple authors, some interesting stuff if you look it up).

And it isn't going to happen again, as it says in Genesis 9:11, "I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth."

It is also by this covenant, and the lineage of all living humans tracing back to Noa, that all of mankind (practically speaking Non-Jews, as Israel is under the Mosaic covenant, not that any of the laws therein contradict the Noahide commandments) is bound by the 7 Noahide laws, and if we obey them in order to do G-d's will, we will have a place in the world to come (7 laws for gentiles, 613 for Jews, not a bad compensation for not being the chosen people).

These laws include: Prohibition of Idolatry, Prohibition of Murder, Prohibition of Theft, Prohibition of Sexual immorality, Prohibition of Blasphemy, Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive,
Establishment of courts of law.

Everyone made fun of Noah while he was building the ark but look what happened when the earth was flooded. they can prove it was flooded before too!
My old hometown has sea shells in it's highest mountains surrounding it. Imbedded into the rocks. My hometown was under water at some point.

That has to do with the geological history of the earth and plate techtonics mostly...another fun tidbit, some Rabbi once said that the flood is named for Noah as a form of divine punishment for his not praying for G-d to spare his fellow men (as Abraham later did for Sodom).

 

[eye_wide_open]

Kinda pseudo religious, wouldn't you say?

How is asking questions about my creation and beings etc a religion?
How does feeling like a slave = religion?
I'm stating what I've experience to you over multiple trips on drugs after trying to learn what happened. gods and entities and aliens and such.

You die BECAUSE your body stops working, not the other way around. It's an intricate system of interdependent parts, you muck one thing up and everything goes kersplat.

Fair enough..

Cells stop regenerating, lack of an immune system, that sorta thing, if you mean why corpses rot. If you mean atrophy, once again go to the biologists.

you're telling somebody who think science has failed the world (hmm that's a lyric isn't it?) to confront biology I may not have much belief in unless it's proven to me personally instead of fed to me in school..
Along with Quantum Mechanics.

It is a Jewish book,

...and it's an egyptian book and it's another religions book yada yada yada.
It's all referring to the same coded information.

Genesis 9:11, "I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth."

And then the bible goes on to write out "revelations"!? I won't flood you, but I'll be back to judge you and go crazy on earth with seven seals an trumpets".

It's contradicting itself right there.
Be very clear I didn't say another flood was coming again. I said that they told me the earth would be cleansed again. That sounds more like revelations, ey?

In particular, they showed me a comet. They can control it's trajectory.

I was not allowed to know when.

I can't say I believe it 100% either. Who the hell knows.
The guy I know who crashed his motorcycle and had an OBE seems to agree..

either that or something to do with our sun.

Something that will make the sky glow.

Either way I'm not so scared.
I believe drugs have led me to meeting my personal "god" so to say.
although I see him more as a big pool of spirits that looks like rainbow mist floating around in space. lol wtf.

It's not here telling me what to do. He's telling me to experience for the one whole big deal..

I still don't get down on my knees and pray to anyone... but I sure as hell felt "something" out there. I'm willing to acknowledge it. We's part of something much greater than we know about.

I think the "beings" represent it. They might be a way it transfers us information... errr something.

Sounds kinda funny to say "I talked to a big rainbow spirit cloud in space and some aliens" as opposed to "DMT machine elfs and an entity". But I think somewhat of the same thing is going on. Something definitely is going on with this.

Science needs to confront this head on (somehow).
Without bias from $$$ or religion or nationality or greed.

I felt on drugs that everything is connected to that damn rainbow glowy thing right there.
I found the image after I had the feeling on drugs, which helped me to explain it much better.

this is how reincarnation is possible too.

The Tibetan book of the dead explains a route back to reincarnating back to earth after death.

 

[SONN]

^ I feel very similarly to you EWO. It was like a space cloud kind of. I don't really know how to explain it but it seemed to have levels of complexity that the human mind cannot comprehend, like it was some sort of higher intelligence. call me crazy, but it was the most intense experience of my entire life.

 

[eye_wide_open]

The odd way we look at this is we are trying to apply logic to
life and death, outside of which logic as we know it does not exist.

Much like the illusion of time.

 

[webbykevin]

I'm planning another high dose mushroom trip soon, if I remember and have it together enough I'll ask the mushroom what it has to say on the subject.

 

[Ismene]

IMO, most ideas and stories stem from someone or something that was at least a slight percentage of truth of the original story.

But you arn't saying the only way you can feel religious is if you take psychedelics?

I tend to believe there is either something you are overlooking or you haven't had the experience for yourself yet.

Not sure what you mean eye_wide, I've taken enough ayahuasca to stun a charging rhino and I've never felt the need to bring Jesus or Allah into my experience. I've always found psychedelics to be far purer and better than any man-made shit religion.

 

[Ismene]

For starters, here's a few since the 19th century, and since you're on this site you should be well aware of New Age type belief sets.

Not really, you could describe the church of the inner light where they used DPT as the sacrament as a "new religion" too - or you could describe it as 2 blokes in an abandoned tenement in New York giving drugs to pretty teenagers. I'm not sure I'd call it the same thing as Christianity.

I'm talking about a religion where we've seen the saviour himself (perhaps on the tv) and a new religion has formed around him. I can't think of any recent ones. David Koresh? L Ron Hubbard?

So if someone believed that there was once a time when chickens could talk and bake, the lesson in the Little Red Hen would become less valuable?

But no-one has ever believed chickens can bake have they - whereas 500 years ago pretty much everyone believed the religious textbooks were the word of God and you were burned if you said they were bullshit. I can't remember anyone being burned for saying Little Red Riding hood was bullshit.

No, SOME religious persons think this way

They do NOW yes, that's because science and liberal thought has made their position untenable, for thousands of years they've believed it was the word of the Lord.

For literal word of the Lord/revealed-by-spiritual-entity you have Islam, some Protestant Christian sects, some Jews.

But you're confusing the current climated with 2000 years ago. They arn't the same. 2000 years ago if you said you didn't believe the word of the holy book you were burnt. Right?

if you threw in the words like 'some' every now and then.

No, you've confused timeframes. True, religious poeple don't burn heretics in 2012 for denying their God - but they did for the bulk of the last 2000 years. Y'follow?

 

[webbykevin]

pro lifers killing doctors. these people are mad.

 

[somaeye]

You do realize there is historical record of Mohammed, people writing stuff about him, who knew him at the time, and that the Qu'ran and hadith have been preserved accurately over time? Read about him sometime, the dude was a sobriety addict if there ever was one on this Earth.

The quote by Mohammed was from the Qu'ran.

Don't know why you would believe that the Qu'ran was accurately preserved - seeing how corrupt the "Islamic" religion has been for many centuries - (same as all the other "religions").

 

[folding_space]

This is the silliest thread I've seen on Bluelight so far. The people spouting off crazy-ass theories somehow missed the most fundamental lesson offerred by psychedelics. Once you discover that a few mg of powder can alter your experience of reality almost completely, how can you ever put this much faith and conviction into anything you've experienced, whether on drugs or not?

For a serious, logically thorough, and intellectually challenging examination of what consciousness may or may not be, I recommend UG Krishnamurti and David Bohm. You can find many of their videos on YouTube.

 

[SONN]

^ how can you put that much faith and conviction into anything?

IT WAS THE MOST LIFE-CHANGING, MIND BLOWING, BEAUTIFUL, DIVINE EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE. for the next few months I was rather obsessed with trying to find an explanation. I've cooled down a bit now, but there is simply no denying what happened when I left my body dude. It was seemingly the truest thing i've ever experienced.

I still often cry tears of joy when I hear the chord progression that was playing in my head directly after I came back.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

No, you've confused timeframes. True, religious poeple don't burn heretics in 2012 for denying their God - but they did for the bulk of the last 2000 years. Y'follow?

I see, I was needlessly abstracting your statements as timeless and general rather than to be taken in a specific time period. And it was only ever untrue religions that did that anyway. Irational Christians who have no context to interpret the Torah since they deny the Talmud, and then go about killing people whereas the circumstances necessary to allow for a death penalty to be enacted in Judaism were really difficult, and we know it hasn't been used since before 30 BCE (when the Romans removed their power to do so, but then it became impossible to hand down the penalty, even in theory, when the 2nd Temple was destroyed by Emperor Titus in the year 70 CE).

And then the bible goes on to write out "revelations"!? I won't flood you, but I'll be back to judge you and go crazy on earth with seven seals an trumpets".

It's contradicting itself right there.
Be very clear I didn't say another flood was coming again. I said that they told me the earth would be cleansed again. That sounds more like revelations, ey?

I gotta split right now, but someone's in for a lecture on not listening to Protestant fundamentalists and their heretical (in a Christian context) beliefs about Rapture and a semi-literal interpretation of the The Revalation of St. John the Divine.

 

[m0ksha]

This is my first post.
Psychedelics have helped me and continue to help me in coming close to my soul, i.e. the source energy, i.e. god. It gives me a state of meditation (+ freedom without any fear or boundaries about how, when or why) where I am free to imagine, visualize and feel the essence of anything I want to feel. If I want to imagine jesus I can very vividly visualize him in my brain, if I want to picture humanity in complete harmony,I can do that. Anything and everything, because the soul does not know the limits, its the mind which tries to get practical nd hinders the vibration, thinking logically.

One shud feel godlike at all times because that is its real state of existence.
ever seen jesus in his physical body gifting you what you want? m sure none.
ever seen energy?
definition of god- is here, was here and will always be here, no one can see, its everywhere (god and the devil)
definition of energy- is here, was here and will always be here, cant be seen, everything is energy (proton-electron(+-))

I can keep goin on and on and on and on, and the reason why I registered is because I could sense a lack of awareness among the trippers, I would love to help.

PS- OP and everyone who reads this- your soul is your god, many people call it diff names, psychedelics alter the state and helps feel complete freedom, what u feel is what u create ! See god in you and u will see 1000 more things which will give u acceptance of the fact !

just tune in

 

[folding_space]

^ how can you put that much faith and conviction into anything?

IT WAS THE MOST LIFE-CHANGING, MIND BLOWING, BEAUTIFUL, DIVINE EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE. for the next few months I was rather obsessed with trying to find an explanation. I've cooled down a bit now, but there is simply no denying what happened when I left my body dude. It was seemingly the truest thing i've ever experienced.

I still often cry tears of joy when I hear the chord progression that was playing in my head directly after I came back.

*Shrug* I've also had intensely "real" experiences like this on drugs. You're missing the entire point here, which is that the feeling of reality is a mental process that need not correlate to the existence or direct perception of any sort of actual reality. This is why people can experience something like derealization. And this is why it's possible for you to have a drug-induced experience and a sober one that both seem perfectly real despite being contradictory.

If you want to make some progress towards understanding what happened to you, I suggest the sources I mentioned above. At the very least they'll diasbuse you of a lot of the pseudo-mystical hippie garbage that people often use to explain these things.

 

[webbykevin]

I love this thread, basically it's hilarious watching people (including myself) attempt to put an unspeakable set of hyper dimensional mental experiences into a 3 dimensional language, we all know what we mean, and each one of us is correct when we think it, but when we try and write it down and then go back and read what we have said it always falls waaaaaaay short of the experience we are trying to convey.

It's brilliant, it's psychedelic, it's what keeps our community open minded and interesting, it is intelligent debate at its very best. I love you all.

 

[loremipsum]

salvia

talked to her

i did. she disproved my whole existance while dimitry tells me that i'm real and eternal. now what? :/

Science has an ENORMOUS ego !!!

scientists maybe have, because they are humans. science as principle has no ego, because it lives upon disproval. anything with an ego would he pretty much hurt with any dissent. science key principle is to get questioned, disproved and eventually corrected for the more precise set of facts. and that's good, it's moving intellectual evolution along its path. moving forward.


i think that thread got out of hand. the psychedelic being is probably not about global human believe structures, but more about individual experiences. here i see my failure getting off topic as well.

 

[Ismene]

I see, I was needlessly abstracting your statements as timeless and general rather than to be taken in a specific time period.

No, if you have 500 years of science proving the religious wrong hundreds of times over hundreds of years you do find even some religious people realise the deadend of their position and try and claim it's allegorical rather than the true word of the Lord.

 

[eye_wide_open]

Not sure what you mean eye_wide, I've taken enough ayahuasca to stun a charging rhino and I've never felt the need to bring Jesus or Allah into my experience. I've always found psychedelics to be far purer and better than any man-made shit religion.

Not everyone is allowed the experience.
Not everyone can get there.
I don't know if you've had the experience or not honestly...
But there is an experience I am referring to that others have also.
See My last post in the MXE thread and a few posts of mine before that...

It doesn't only seem to be related to MXE either.
there is this crazy experience where you can go talk to "the creator" and it looks and feels like the picture I posted on the last page of this thread.

you become "one" with it, and it teaches you more information than you can fathom, including how your real living day to day life is one big lie and a giant conspiracy. Not to mention, you get to meet the aliens.

This is the silliest thread I've seen on Bluelight so far. The people spouting off crazy-ass theories somehow missed the most fundamental lesson offerred by psychedelics. Once you discover that a few mg of powder can alter your experience of reality almost completely, how can you ever put this much faith and conviction into anything you've experienced, whether on drugs or not?

I'm going to say it one last time.
You guys have not had the experience yet.
lol

If it hasn't happened to you, there is absolutely no way in hell you can ever understand it.
guaranteed.

I'm not the only one it has happened to either. Many more around here..

You guys didn't "get the message" yet.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, just what I believe is the reason why you don't know what I mean.
you have not had the experience I speak of.
myself and others have, on various drugs.
even people I know who did it without drugs by almost dying some other way.

you seriously have to almost REALLY die for it to happen. (I think, but could be wrong)
this isn't your basic out of body experience I'm referring to..
I believe what I've experienced is the REAL out of body.

I was brought back to life by "alien life support" and felt it, too.
It felt like I was hit with a defibrillator.

Nobody can really tell me "nope, what you experienced did not happen".
I would never believe that in a million years. I KNOW what I felt. I know what happened to me.
I spent months trying to figure it out.
I don't come in here to lie.
I actually have a job now and work and am part of functioning society.

It's possible if your mind is too closed or you are too much of a know it all or a super genius who can't except that you maybe don't know everything that exists, you may never "get the message" at all. No matter how many drugs you do or how close to death you may come.

this is why they can't study it in a lab. The results are not replicable 100% of the time.
Specially under the pressures of scientifically controlled experimentation while you are high as f*ck.

What I refer to is a step (or ten) ahead of a normal breakthrough experience.
closer to near death/really out of body.
that's when you get to meet the "real god" and real entities. But they're aliens... I'm telling you.

my friend did it without drugs by almost dying on his motorcycle.

I love this thread, basically it's hilarious watching people (including myself) attempt to put an unspeakable set of hyper dimensional mental experiences into a 3 dimensional language, we all know what we mean, and each one of us is correct when we think it, but when we try and write it down and then go back and read what we have said it always falls waaaaaaay short of the experience we are trying to convey.

It's brilliant, it's psychedelic, it's what keeps our community open minded and interesting, it is intelligent debate at its very best. I love you all.

Ditto!


I always find myself trying to overexplain things just to make them more clear but to be honest I don' think it ever rely works the way I want it.
I don't think people can understand what I'm trying to convey. lol

If anyone has felt the aliens and spirit pool like I did they'd know it right away.
a very small percentage of people it be, that's for sure.

If anyone is reading this and made it there, congratulations! Know you aren't alone and if you need help come talk to me! I can show you more about what happened to you and help you maintain your sanity! For those that haven't made it, don't strive for it.
It has to happen on it's own.
just go abut your life.
I believe if you really deserve it, it will make itself known to you in one way or another.