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Opioids **The Oxycodone Mega Thread.** - Can't find your thread? Its in here.
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jetpackjake
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my apologies.
jetpackjake
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I recently obtained a fair quantity of opiates. This was basically my first try with opiates. I first tried an oxy 20 split into two doses, which rocked my world. A few days later, a methadone 10, which was decent, until later, where I got fairly sick, but was able to get through the next morning without vomiting. A few days later, I obtained 10 oxy 80's. 40mg doses seem to be not near the potency of his 20mg I tried. Could this really just be rapid tolerance, or old Oxy's to blame? maybe a little of both? I just sniffed two 20mg doses in the course of about 1.5 hours, and feels like the euphoria is already gone 2 hours in. Is this normal? Been browsing the web looking for an answer, but this seems like kind of a fairly situation-specific question. Could it be the methadone still in my system from a few days ago? Dunno, just rambling now. If this is one of those annoying noob questions, feel free to flame, and sorry in advance.
Quite possible the methadone may be blocking or negating the effects of the oxycodone. I think methadone stays in your system for 7+ days, the opiate blocking part probably diminishes as time passes after taking methadone. Also, as an experienced opiate user, I find that oxy's euphoria doesn't last nearly as long as "similar" opiates. I wrote a thread on some of my opiate experience here
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=457997&highlight=oxy+heroin+differences
Opiates are like playing with fire, no one is immune
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=457997&highlight=oxy+heroin+differences
Opiates are like playing with fire, no one is immune
El Patron
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Since you invited flameage, I'll speak my mind. And try and help you out too.
The short answer is simple. It's tolerance. Oxycontin is the most prescribed narcotic pain killer in the country and one of the most popular street drugs as well. Do you really think those 80s were sitting around for so long that they started breaking down? I know you said you just started but I can hear the addict way of thinking already. Or you could just be retarded. Nevertheless, I will try and educate you.
However you need to give a little more info. Did you sufflate both your original 20mg oxy dose and the subsequent doses? Or did I read that right your first dose was just 10mg? Because if you didn't notice 80mg oxys are large pills. Lots of filler. Much bigger than they need to be. So anyway, when you blow a big fat line of drugs, a fair portion of it never touches the mucal walls of your sinuses. Those drugs will eventually drip down your throat, down your esophagus and into your stomach where it will be absorbed much more slowly. Especially if you had a full stomach. Not to mention, since you seem like kind of a moron who does not use proper insufflation technique, you probably snorted the shit out of that oxy. When you snort too hard, the drugs do not hit the mucal walls of your sinuses, they do not drip down to your stomach, they do not pass go and collect 200 dollars. They fly down your windpipe and in to your lungs where they are NEVER absorbed. In fact, drugs in your lungs is a bad thing. I actually answered some guy's question yesterday who was convinced snorting heroin had given him pneumonia. Now I didn't think he had pneumonia, but ground up pills and such will irritate the lining of the lungs and create small cuts that become infected. This could cause pneumonia or a host of other miserable problems.
There is a reason they don't make medicine for people to insufflate. We all know it's a faster onset of action. The risks don't outweigh the benefits, clear and simple. My advice to you is to eat your oxy, like I do. Take your 80, crush it up good, wrap it in a small ply of toilet paper, and swallow with a swig of water. This is called parachuting. Or you could just chew it, like I do. I found no noticeable difference to parachuting and I like the taste. One side note here regarding oxycontin specifically. The color coating has nothing to do with the time release. NOTHING. The pill is created using a waxy matrix. That is to say the whole pill is time release. So you do need to signicantly crush it up before injesting. Although I have found that even a finely crushed oxycontin does not hit as hard as the same dose of percocet or oxy IR.
Most people here eat oxy vs blowing it, although I am sure it has little to do with the health benefits. You see, oxycodone has a higher bio-availability or BA you will hear people say. What that means is that it more of the drug is metabolized and reaches a higher peak plasma level in your blood stream. This means that while snorting a pill might hit you a little faster, eating it will actually get you HIGHER. And last longer. That's right, higher and longer, AND safer. It's almost like they were designed to be taken that way...interesting.
Ok so I'll go ahead and tell you how I like to get the most out of my pills. People will tell you lots of things potentiate opiates. Grapefruit juice (you would need to drink like half a gallon for a real effect), benadryl, all kinds of things. Some work for some people, but I know what works for me and it is very simple and I'm not giving myself an ulcer by drinking large amounts of highly acidic juice everyday. I take my oxy on an empty stomach whenever possible. This will make sure it hits you as quick as possible. I doubt anyone would argue with that. Then I go about my business for an hour or so. Then I eat a good meal. Within 5 minutes I am in nod city. Dropping the remote control, letting ciggarettes go out, etc. The big meal jump starts the digestive process and the pill has already been broken down so the drug is absorbed extremely rapidly into your bloodstream and hits like a fucking freight train. I believe I have found the ultimate opiate potentiator....the meatball sub.
So in conclusion, if you really need to snort your pills, use proper technique. Small lines, insufflated only with enough force to get the stuff into your sinus cavity and not fall back out. Then wait 15 minutes and do some more, alternating nostrils. But if your drug is oxy, do yourself a favor and eat that shit. I have taking it every day for years now and if snorting got you higher, I would snort it. Trust me.
By the way, your tolerance is not building any faster than normal. There is a reason oxycodone is so highly regulated, it is addictive as hell.
Have fun and be safe man. Peace.
The short answer is simple. It's tolerance. Oxycontin is the most prescribed narcotic pain killer in the country and one of the most popular street drugs as well. Do you really think those 80s were sitting around for so long that they started breaking down? I know you said you just started but I can hear the addict way of thinking already. Or you could just be retarded. Nevertheless, I will try and educate you.
However you need to give a little more info. Did you sufflate both your original 20mg oxy dose and the subsequent doses? Or did I read that right your first dose was just 10mg? Because if you didn't notice 80mg oxys are large pills. Lots of filler. Much bigger than they need to be. So anyway, when you blow a big fat line of drugs, a fair portion of it never touches the mucal walls of your sinuses. Those drugs will eventually drip down your throat, down your esophagus and into your stomach where it will be absorbed much more slowly. Especially if you had a full stomach. Not to mention, since you seem like kind of a moron who does not use proper insufflation technique, you probably snorted the shit out of that oxy. When you snort too hard, the drugs do not hit the mucal walls of your sinuses, they do not drip down to your stomach, they do not pass go and collect 200 dollars. They fly down your windpipe and in to your lungs where they are NEVER absorbed. In fact, drugs in your lungs is a bad thing. I actually answered some guy's question yesterday who was convinced snorting heroin had given him pneumonia. Now I didn't think he had pneumonia, but ground up pills and such will irritate the lining of the lungs and create small cuts that become infected. This could cause pneumonia or a host of other miserable problems.
There is a reason they don't make medicine for people to insufflate. We all know it's a faster onset of action. The risks don't outweigh the benefits, clear and simple. My advice to you is to eat your oxy, like I do. Take your 80, crush it up good, wrap it in a small ply of toilet paper, and swallow with a swig of water. This is called parachuting. Or you could just chew it, like I do. I found no noticeable difference to parachuting and I like the taste. One side note here regarding oxycontin specifically. The color coating has nothing to do with the time release. NOTHING. The pill is created using a waxy matrix. That is to say the whole pill is time release. So you do need to signicantly crush it up before injesting. Although I have found that even a finely crushed oxycontin does not hit as hard as the same dose of percocet or oxy IR.
Most people here eat oxy vs blowing it, although I am sure it has little to do with the health benefits. You see, oxycodone has a higher bio-availability or BA you will hear people say. What that means is that it more of the drug is metabolized and reaches a higher peak plasma level in your blood stream. This means that while snorting a pill might hit you a little faster, eating it will actually get you HIGHER. And last longer. That's right, higher and longer, AND safer. It's almost like they were designed to be taken that way...interesting.
Ok so I'll go ahead and tell you how I like to get the most out of my pills. People will tell you lots of things potentiate opiates. Grapefruit juice (you would need to drink like half a gallon for a real effect), benadryl, all kinds of things. Some work for some people, but I know what works for me and it is very simple and I'm not giving myself an ulcer by drinking large amounts of highly acidic juice everyday. I take my oxy on an empty stomach whenever possible. This will make sure it hits you as quick as possible. I doubt anyone would argue with that. Then I go about my business for an hour or so. Then I eat a good meal. Within 5 minutes I am in nod city. Dropping the remote control, letting ciggarettes go out, etc. The big meal jump starts the digestive process and the pill has already been broken down so the drug is absorbed extremely rapidly into your bloodstream and hits like a fucking freight train. I believe I have found the ultimate opiate potentiator....the meatball sub.
So in conclusion, if you really need to snort your pills, use proper technique. Small lines, insufflated only with enough force to get the stuff into your sinus cavity and not fall back out. Then wait 15 minutes and do some more, alternating nostrils. But if your drug is oxy, do yourself a favor and eat that shit. I have taking it every day for years now and if snorting got you higher, I would snort it. Trust me.
By the way, your tolerance is not building any faster than normal. There is a reason oxycodone is so highly regulated, it is addictive as hell.
Have fun and be safe man. Peace.
Yeah its probably just tolerance.. When your new to opiates your base tolerance often starts off blissfully low, but once you use a handful of times you generally always lose that overly sensitive reaction to opiates right away.
Thats the life of an addict, always wondering "how the hell does it take me this much to get high?" 8) My advice to you is, quit while your ahead and put the opiates behind you before its not so easy.
No worries
Thats the life of an addict, always wondering "how the hell does it take me this much to get high?" 8) My advice to you is, quit while your ahead and put the opiates behind you before its not so easy.
No worries
ranimal
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Feeling good is addicting. Try some vigorous exercise now that yer back is feeling better. You'll get a high from that for sure.
jetpackjake
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thank you for the insight el patron. and youre right, i am an addict. i used to go through an ounce of pot and a half bottle of whiskey a day. i got clean for a year, and then i found these pills. the good news is though... is im really not impressed with opiates.ill likely get rid of them before i finish them. the nodding thing just isnt my idea of a high. to me, even in short term, the negatives outweigh the positives. thank you for typing so much to me in response though, i do appreciate it. its strange though... even on my first dose... the 20.... which was indeed strong.... i still feel like its not a 'high'. to me its like... being blunted.. but not high. the "euphoria" isnt really what id consider euphoric. anyone else feel this way?i feel like id be just as "high" taking a few dramamine and listening to brainwaves. i guess maybe im lucky.
Johnny blue
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Tolerance. I don't think you took enough methadone to form a blockade.
Didn't read everyone elses posts but, you are starting on a slippery slope. Be careful. Of course welcome to bluelight
Didn't read everyone elses posts but, you are starting on a slippery slope. Be careful. Of course welcome to bluelight
danalprazolam
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With about a month or 2 of not taking any opiates. I used a 60, did about 40. Actually felt sick, (never happens). Did the rest, then my stomach ache went away.
CounTerOrdeR
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Stop wasting them by snorting. Parachute as a guy above said. You will be higher for longer.
Also you dont have to nod on opies, i often consider a nod to be taking to much kuz i ussually wanna do something when im high like playing some game. I dont get how you built a tolerance so fast either, 40mg held me for a year.
Also you dont have to nod on opies, i often consider a nod to be taking to much kuz i ussually wanna do something when im high like playing some game. I dont get how you built a tolerance so fast either, 40mg held me for a year.
raver2008
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^^ Hes right, if you would have eaten that 40 not sniffed it you probably would of got alot higher
IME the hardest part of kicking and staying clean is the depression and boredom that follows the WD... the depression gets easier after several months but when i get bored i still think of heroin and i don't know if the boredom craving ever goes away completely.
thrill-house84
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Yeah I get that and I still have alot of trouble sleeping, but it does feel great to be off of it all. I mean I still want to do it but I wont let myself at least not for a long time. I guess it can only get better the longer its been.
exactly. there is a freedom that comes with not having to center your life around scoring.
thrill-house84
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There really is, and now that the worst of it is over and I feel like leaving my apartment its great to be out and not worry about having to meet up with someone/feeling bad if I dont.
qft
I never thought about this till I started reading tolerance threads. I had a 10 year 60-100mg oxy/hydro habit. In those 10 years, I never took more than 10mgs at one time. Yes, I dosed frequently during the day but I still got a buzz off 10 mgs. What factors would not raise my tolerance? It wasn't like I was an amateur addict. This went on daily. I just could not imagine doing 40mgs or so at one time.