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The "Older Drugs"

lovebuzzer

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Does anyone know where the older drugs like Qualudes, Reds, Barbituates, Opium, Hash, PCP, any some others I can't remember right now, have gone?

The newer drugs like Benzos, Opiates,and especially the best bud around, just doesn't do it after 25+ years. I smoke the best and I am certain that it does not get me high anymore. Anyone else experience this?

Has anyone seen these around in Michigan? I Would like to enjoy things again. Is alot of ketamine around anymore?

To bad the pharmiceutical companies could make the best drug in the world, but drugs that make you feel good are aways addicting and ruin all users lifes. LOL I wonder what kind of stuff they have come up with. A 7 day orgasm pill? LOL8o
 
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Qualudes are extremely rare in the US and most other places, but common in parts of Africa where it is manufactured clandestinely. The synth is actually pretty simple and doesn't require any restricted precursors.

Reds are secobarbital. Barbiturates are rarely prescribed because benzos are so much safer. They are sometimes prescribed for epilepsy and some types of barbs are available OTC in Mexico.

Non-tinctured opium was never common in the US outside of immigrant circles as far as I know, but I do see it passed around occasionally. It's still common in Asia of course. I love opium and I'd like to see more of it.

Hash is as common as it ever was I think. Which means it's widely available in Europe (because it's easier to smuggle across borders). I sometimes see it sold in the US but mostly people just make their own - which is fine by me because hash in the US tends to be better quality as a consequence.

PCP is not too hard to come by in big cities. It's easy to find in D.C., parts of New Jersey, and parts of California. I've never had the opportunity to try any but then again I never really sought it out. I think most people who like dissociatives much prefer ketamine.
 
qualudes are still manufactured in africa. Opium is scarce but still available. hash is available everywhere. PCP and its analogues are readily available. barbs have been taken over by benzos because they are much safer.
 
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qualudes are still manufactured in africa. Opium is scarce but still available. hash is available everywhere. PCP and its analogues are readily available. barbs have been taken over by benzos because they are much safer.

What are PCP analogues? are they in Michigan?
 
Never had the pleasure of doing qualudes, reds or any of the older stuff for obvious reasons. I have an older cousin that has done all those old drugs & says he use to love popping qualudes. As for hash, its around, you just gotta know people that have it.

Dont know anyone that has done ketamine.
 
Hash and opium are still produced. They're just produced in small quantities and a lot of it is fake / cut garbage.

PCP, and analogs like 3-MeO and 4-MeO PCP/PCE, are still produced, in small quantities. I think the public image of PCP hasn't helped, nor have the occasional manic episode.

Quaaludes (methaqualone) are sometimes produced illicitly (South Africa mainly) and there are a few other drugs in its family still in use/ seen on the black market. I think methaqualone is the most abusable though.

Barbiturates (Reds, Blues, seconals, tuinals etc) have essentially dissapeared due to their potential for lethality. The only place you'll find them is as lab reagents (sometimes) and in euthanasia preparations (usually for animals, with green dye).
 
Well weed/mushrooms/LSD/benzos/ are all old drugs and they are everywhere. As far as old pharms..nothing could ever touch a strong opiate. There is a lot of hype surrounding barbs and quads but come on.....if they were even half as good as they say we would have 10 versions of each right now. Drugs have done nothing but get better.....look at the progression from "bennies" to MDMA to Mephedrone...and on and on. I feel you, but to say the bud of today is not as strong as old school bud is nothing short of a lie.

As you can tell I'm into the latest and greatest as far as the drug community and me.
 
Regional-specific queries belong in their appropriate regional forum, which I'll move this too for you. I can't promise it will stay open, though.

BDD -- > NASADD
 
All of the drugs you listed are still available, you just have to know where to look.

Opium is widely used/available throughout the world. Took me years to find some but I did and now its widely available.

Methaqualone (Quaaludes), are still manufactured in S. Africa (albeit under a different name) but is still widely available there. I have about 300-350mg of Methaqualone tucked away, I really wanna eat it but I know ill probably never get it again. Ive heard of it popping up in Australia as well. Funkyyyy.

PCP is still extremely available in certain areas. Shit, all I have to do is make one phone call and i can have a shermie in my hand in a few hours. In places like LA, Houston, NYC, San Fran, Oakland, etc etc, PCP is still very common. The black and hispanic gangs still widely distribute it.

Hash can be found at any dispensary in Cali/Colorado/anywhere else MMJ is sold, and most potheads can still find it I didnt know it was hard to find it some places....

As for the rest of the Barb family, those are getting a bit harder to find. They're still widely available in third world countries, but they dont often find their way into Western Society. Things like Butalbital, Phenobarbital, and Pentobarbital are still very common, but the good ones, like Secobarbital, and others are very hard to find, sadly.


All in all, you really just have to look hard. If you look hard enough, you'll be able to find anything.
 
Bombo, I don't know if you ever saw this article about methaqualone being produced in the US until recently when the ring was taken down.
 
There are (or were?) analogs of methaqualone floating around the US RC market for a while. They may have fallen by the wayside, however.

I know lots and lots of people who have done PCP and ketamine, I guess it just depends on the regional markets and the demand in that area...
 
Oh shit tommy, I wish I would have been in with that circle!!!
I wanna eat this Methaqualone so bad, but I dont know if ill ever be able to get it again.
 
Yeah, my guy ran out of etaqualone right before I wanted to order some and I haven't seen it since. There was a scare with at least one bluelighter who overdosed and vendors freaked out. It's too bad, I've heard some good things about it.
 
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