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The Old Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread and Scraps

What many see as this compounds greatest assest I see as its least useful towards why I do Psychedelic compounds for in the first place: spirituality.

This compound can not break Ego.. I can't even get my Ego to break a sweat on the stuff..

my eyes will be bleeding, "Oh Glory fractal!!! LOOK AT ME!! WEE.. WHoooooo
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" but my mind is just speedy at best.
 
on the non-spiritual side (keep this thought seperate lol) 2C-I would be a great "intro to visuals 101" if there was ever a college course in Entheogens.

If you can freak out on 2C-I then driving at 5:00pm in downtown Dallas traffic must terrify you.
 
on the non-spiritual side (keep this thought seperate lol) 2C-I would be a great "intro to visuals 101" if there was ever a college course in Entheogens.

If you can freak out on 2C-I then driving at 5:00pm in downtown Dallas traffic must terrify you.
 
eternalcrux said:

It is a psychedelic amphetamine, and mdma, mda, etc all have tolerance issues... so why wouldnt' 2ci?
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2C-I isn't an amphetamine, but there definitely are tolerance issues with it. I once used it 3 days in a row, 10mg (a low dose, but one that I find enjoyable) orally each day, and each day the the effects were weaker. On the third day the effects were barely noticable, mostly just a slight physical stimulation. That same day I also snorted 6mg about 6 hours after the oral dose, and felt no effects at all.
 
eternalcrux said:

It is a psychedelic amphetamine, and mdma, mda, etc all have tolerance issues... so why wouldnt' 2ci?
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2C-I isn't an amphetamine, but there definitely are tolerance issues with it. I once used it 3 days in a row, 10mg (a low dose, but one that I find enjoyable) orally each day, and each day the the effects were weaker. On the third day the effects were barely noticable, mostly just a slight physical stimulation. That same day I also snorted 6mg about 6 hours after the oral dose, and felt no effects at all.
 
Crimson Cloud said:
2C-I isn't an amphetamine, but there definitely are tolerance issues with it. I once used it 3 days in a row, 10mg (a low dose, but one that I find enjoyable) orally each day, and each day the the effects were weaker. On the third day the effects were barely noticable, mostly just a slight physical stimulation. That same day I also snorted 6mg about 6 hours after the oral dose, and felt no effects at all.
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It isn't? I thought it was a phenethylamine, ie psychedelic amphetamine? Mind clearing it up for me?
 
Crimson Cloud said:
2C-I isn't an amphetamine, but there definitely are tolerance issues with it. I once used it 3 days in a row, 10mg (a low dose, but one that I find enjoyable) orally each day, and each day the the effects were weaker. On the third day the effects were barely noticable, mostly just a slight physical stimulation. That same day I also snorted 6mg about 6 hours after the oral dose, and felt no effects at all.
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It isn't? I thought it was a phenethylamine, ie psychedelic amphetamine? Mind clearing it up for me?
 
amphetamine == alpha-methyl-phenethylamine i.e. a phenethylamine with a methyl group in the alpha postion. So all amphetamines are phenethylamines. But not all phenethylamines are amphetamines, i.e. one's with out the methyl group in the alpha postion are not amphetamines.

All of the 2c's are phenethylamines but not amphetamines.

Phenethylamine:

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/images/pihkal142.gif

Amphetamine (note the position of the additional methyl group):

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amphetamines/images/archive/amphetamine_2d.gif

2c-i (note it does not have the methyl group in that position):

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci/images/archive/2ci_2d.gif
 
amphetamine == alpha-methyl-phenethylamine i.e. a phenethylamine with a methyl group in the alpha postion. So all amphetamines are phenethylamines. But not all phenethylamines are amphetamines, i.e. one's with out the methyl group in the alpha postion are not amphetamines.

All of the 2c's are phenethylamines but not amphetamines.

Phenethylamine:

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/images/pihkal142.gif

Amphetamine (note the position of the additional methyl group):

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amphetamines/images/archive/amphetamine_2d.gif

2c-i (note it does not have the methyl group in that position):

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci/images/archive/2ci_2d.gif
 
valour said:
Any reports beyond the one on Erowid about smoking 2c-I?
Minimally how to compare doses vs. oral?
Hopefully with differences in the experiences?
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I tried vaporizing 50 milligrams with tinfoil, although some
effects were achieved, (a little buzz with scant visuals.)
I highly do not recommend this method of consumption.

i'm still reeling in thoughts of how much material was
wasted vaporizing this material

2C-I and water works great, in comparison, vaporizing
really sucks.
 
valour said:
Any reports beyond the one on Erowid about smoking 2c-I?
Minimally how to compare doses vs. oral?
Hopefully with differences in the experiences?
Click to expand...

I tried vaporizing 50 milligrams with tinfoil, although some
effects were achieved, (a little buzz with scant visuals.)
I highly do not recommend this method of consumption.

i'm still reeling in thoughts of how much material was
wasted vaporizing this material

2C-I and water works great, in comparison, vaporizing
really sucks.
 
In all my travels with 2C-I I've found oral dosing to be accurate and consistant (if your scale is.) I did find that the more times I tried 2C-I more was reveiled to me in the way of visuals, but that is about it.

I don't know where that mag got the idea to try and link C2-I as the next MDMA.. they are not even in the same.. well.. anything..

I see 2C-I as the drug for those who can't (or don't want to) handle the mental/spiritual load of mushrooms or stronger entheogens. I guess in that it has it's place.

I wouldn't give much thought to doing a 25 mg dose at a consert as long as I had fasted for 12 hours and was around a few friends... but I feel the same way with 3grams of shrooms abd have less of a "blah" feeling during the comeup and 8 hours later.
 
In all my travels with 2C-I I've found oral dosing to be accurate and consistant (if your scale is.) I did find that the more times I tried 2C-I more was reveiled to me in the way of visuals, but that is about it.

I don't know where that mag got the idea to try and link C2-I as the next MDMA.. they are not even in the same.. well.. anything..

I see 2C-I as the drug for those who can't (or don't want to) handle the mental/spiritual load of mushrooms or stronger entheogens. I guess in that it has it's place.

I wouldn't give much thought to doing a 25 mg dose at a consert as long as I had fasted for 12 hours and was around a few friends... but I feel the same way with 3grams of shrooms abd have less of a "blah" feeling during the comeup and 8 hours later.
 
The New Shaman said:
In all my travels with 2C-I I've found oral dosing to be accurate and consistant (if your scale is.) I did find that the more times I tried 2C-I more was reveiled to me in the way of visuals, but that is about it.

I don't know where that mag got the idea to try and link C2-I as the next MDMA.. they are not even in the same.. well.. anything..

I see 2C-I as the drug for those who can't (or don't want to) handle the mental/spiritual load of mushrooms or stronger entheogens. I guess in that it has it's place.

I wouldn't give much thought to doing a 25 mg dose at a consert as long as I had fasted for 12 hours and was around a few friends... but I feel the same way with 3grams of shrooms abd have less of a "blah" feeling during the comeup and 8 hours later.
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I'd have to agree with you for the most part. I took 40mg of it last night, 20mg followed by two more 10s, this stuff takes wayyyy too long to kick in too. I'm still intoxicated right now, but this is definitely a visual chemical. It comes in waves, but its completely smashed my most visual experience ever, which was on 5-MeO-AMT.

However, just like 5-MeO-AMT, no ego death... In fact, that's what most of the research chemicals lack.

And to answer the question earlier, I have found one substance that doesn't build tolerance, at least not in me, because I ate AMT daily and everytime I tripped nuts!

2C-I does build tolerance, and quickly, but that's a good thing, in my opinion. It's self regulating, a property that the AMT needed badly and didn't have. At least not for me.
 
The New Shaman said:
In all my travels with 2C-I I've found oral dosing to be accurate and consistant (if your scale is.) I did find that the more times I tried 2C-I more was reveiled to me in the way of visuals, but that is about it.

I don't know where that mag got the idea to try and link C2-I as the next MDMA.. they are not even in the same.. well.. anything..

I see 2C-I as the drug for those who can't (or don't want to) handle the mental/spiritual load of mushrooms or stronger entheogens. I guess in that it has it's place.

I wouldn't give much thought to doing a 25 mg dose at a consert as long as I had fasted for 12 hours and was around a few friends... but I feel the same way with 3grams of shrooms abd have less of a "blah" feeling during the comeup and 8 hours later.
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I'd have to agree with you for the most part. I took 40mg of it last night, 20mg followed by two more 10s, this stuff takes wayyyy too long to kick in too. I'm still intoxicated right now, but this is definitely a visual chemical. It comes in waves, but its completely smashed my most visual experience ever, which was on 5-MeO-AMT.

However, just like 5-MeO-AMT, no ego death... In fact, that's what most of the research chemicals lack.

And to answer the question earlier, I have found one substance that doesn't build tolerance, at least not in me, because I ate AMT daily and everytime I tripped nuts!

2C-I does build tolerance, and quickly, but that's a good thing, in my opinion. It's self regulating, a property that the AMT needed badly and didn't have. At least not for me.
 
And don't anybody go think its safe to take 40mg of 2C-I either. I have a huge tolerance to all the 2C compounds, and for most, taking 40mg of 2C-I would probably hurt them physically. This stuff elevates pulse and blood pressure and I have been checking mine, everything is within the good range, albeit higher than I'd like.
 
And don't anybody go think its safe to take 40mg of 2C-I either. I have a huge tolerance to all the 2C compounds, and for most, taking 40mg of 2C-I would probably hurt them physically. This stuff elevates pulse and blood pressure and I have been checking mine, everything is within the good range, albeit higher than I'd like.
 
" because I ate AMT daily and everytime I tripped nuts!

2C-I does build tolerance, and quickly, but that's a good thing, in my opinion. It's self regulating, a property that the AMT needed badly and didn't have. At least not for me."

you need that a substance have a tolerance properties to stop your compulsive use of it ?
it's scary, man.
 
lysergication said:
" because I ate AMT daily and everytime I tripped nuts!

2C-I does build tolerance, and quickly, but that's a good thing, in my opinion. It's self regulating, a property that the AMT needed badly and didn't have. At least not for me."

you need that a substance have a tolerance properties to stop your compulsive use of it ?
it's scary, man.
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AMT was very addictive for me, but I have an addictive personality. I love tripping, and in all honesty, I wish I could make it permanent. But since I can't, and driving like that would be impossible, I just make it a once in a while occasion. Sometimes I use them, sometimes I don't. I just happened to love AMT, and still to this day regard it as the best substance I ever put in my body.
 
And don't anybody go think its safe to take 40mg of 2C-I either
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Damn! And you were the one telling me to be careful, when I was talking about taking 25mg! ;) Tolerance is a pain though I guess!
 
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