The Old and Overgrown Methylone Thread (11-2002 to 2-2007)

[Morninggloryseed]

another potency question:
How many mg of methylone would you all compare to 125 mg MDMA?

180mg compared to 120mg of MDMA in the sense that at that dosage, they both floor me (in a good way ). But yeah, they are pretty different and it is hard to make such comparisons.

 

[itwasntme]

another potency question:
How many mg of methylone would you all compare to 125 mg MDMA?

180...

 

[djfriendly]

180mg compared to 120mg of MDMA

These numbers are often mentioned, and they become very interesting when one looks at the study which tested the receptor binding affinities of methylone vs. MDMA. One of those happy times when theory and experience match up very closely.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

besides it was mdma base and it seems that mdma in this form takes about the same time to feel it, maybe sightly longer).

any more dosage comparisons?

MDMA base is a caustic oil that would be potentially dangerous to swallow. I somehow doubt you are working with MDMA freebase,

 

[Xorkoth]

I'm 100% positive I could distinguish between MDMA and methylone immediately in a blind trial. The come-up is far different, the euphoria is much less pushy, the head remains clear, and the high drops off rapidly with methylone. Also the universal love vibe is not at all the same. It's similar. But not the same by any means.

 

[Delsyd]

Those people werent as experienced with the psychedelic state as some of the people here.

 

[Voodoochild870]

I'm actually planning on ordering some Methylone sometime soon. Seems like an interesting drug to me, a bit expensive though...

Would 100mgs be reccommended for a starting dose to test the waters, or would I be better off taking 150mgs and redosing as needed?

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I'm actually planning on ordering some Methylone sometime soon. Seems like an interesting drug to me, a bit expensive though...

Would 100mgs be reccommended for a starting dose to test the waters, or would I be better off taking 150mgs and redosing as needed?

I shy away from recommending dosages, but that 175mg level is key. Few experience the true methylone effect at lower levels. The bodybuzz is there, but not much else.

 

[djfriendly]

At the risk of sounding reckless, if one is absolutely sure they have methylone and one has normal reactions to stimulants, I wouldn't recommend starting under 150mg.

(edit started writing before the above post, pretty much ditto)

 

[Voodoochild870]

Thanks fellas

 

[hugo24]

The mistake I made was I tried to dose up (into the hundreds) until reaching MDMA equivalency.I never found it,maybe a hint for a short time...

Until I approached it as a different drug.I was really surprised on what Methylone could provide!With "only" 190mg or so.

But in regards to dose-intensity equivalency,I would say 150mg is equal to 120mg MDMA.Think about a brillant glowing pastell colour,while being pastell but yet equal to a brillant glowing colour.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

But in regards to dose-intensity equivalency,I would say 150mg is equal to 120mg MDMA.

I wish I was that sensitive. Odd, cause I am very sensitive to most other phenethylamines.

Think about a brillant glowing pastell colour,while being pastell but yet equal to a brillant glowing colour.

I really do want to understand what you mean, but try as I do, I cannot.

 

[hugo24]

I'm very insensitive to MDMA and the likes,so the reasoning of that comparison was: 120mg MDMA is weak,and 150mg Methylone is about equally weak.Just to voice an opinion of a hardhead (200-300mg MDMA was a normal dose,but I can enjoy now 160mg).

The other remark tried to describe qualitative difference between the 2 drugs.In normal life,I very much enjoy looking at pure,clean and brilliant colors.
Only recently I discovered the pastel colours (is this term known in english?),when I was younger I dismissed them as "weak,soft,not the real mc coy".But it happened to me once that I looked coincidently at a particular pastel colour and it suddenly hit me that this particular colour lead to the same overly pleasant feelings like a "undiluted" colour does!I think this analogy gives a good comparison MDMA --> Methylone.

 

[shn()z]

I had a chance to try methylone for the first time, a single 200mg dose. I did find it very reminiscent of MDMA in a lot of ways, albeit with differences that have already been mentioned here. During the peak of it, I thought "wow, this is surprisingly good."

But--- although I was prepared for the duration to be short, I didn't realize just how short. I began to feel it within about 10 minutes and peaked around 40 minutes. At about an hour I felt it already begin to subside, and by the 2-hour mark the effects were pretty much gone (except for a wired feeling and some jaw-twisting that lessened gradually over the next five or six hours).

I never suffered any of the mind-clouding or forgetfulness that ecstasy can cause, but I didn't notice any particular empathetic feelings either.

I'm glad I got to try it once, but the brevity of its effects and the unreasonably high cost make it unlikely that I'll do so again. I'd prefer to just find some good MDMA.

 

[spun420 v. 2.0]

for me 300mgs seems just about perfect. my two cents. A couple of friends have had favorable result at same dose.

 

[Xorkoth]

Methylone's duration is indeed extremely short. The key is to use the state appropriately, and integrate the state of mind into yourself. I was able to do this the last time I tried it. The other times I was left unsatisfied. I took it, felt the high, loved it, then came down abruptly and was left feeling fiendish and a bit cracked out. The last time I tried it, I took it and hung out with friends. We began having a very open and emotional coversation, and then I called my family and talked to each of them an hour apiece, my mom, my dad, and my little brother. We all had amazing conversations that were very honest and more open than usual, but also quite sober in nature. My little brother and I talked about his future and what he wants to do with his life, things his 15-year-old mind had never felt like discussing with me before. I found that after I was done, 4 hours later, I had never had that cracked out or "lossy" feeling at all. In fact, I was still positively glowing with euphoric love. I remained in the same state for the rest of the day, at a lower intensity. The state morphed from a drug-fueled one into a totally natural state of satisfaction and inner euphoria. By the time the phone conversations were over, I didn't feel drugged up anymore, but I felt just as good.

I think the key is, basically, to take it with the intention of using it to communicate intensely, and forget about the drug. otherwise an unpleasant and quick comedown in inevitable.

 

[spun420 v. 2.0]

Xorkorth, I agree it is more a sit around and talk lay around the hose type of substance. Best with small groups of close friends comfortable setting ect. ect. I don't understand people saying they feel cracked out or fiendy on it. I seem to get that way more with mdma. I guess like most things it just varies person to person.

 

[Delsyd]

Does redosing work with methylone?

The one time i did it, as i was coming down i dosed on 2c-c.
The combo was ok, nothing to write home about.
But im wondering about redosing with more methylone to keep the experience going.

Although you make a good point Xork, sometimes its fun to just have a long night of drugged up love.

 

[Coolio]

spun, that's the complete opposite for me. I find MDMA to be a sit around and talk lay around the house type of substance. After a single dose of MDMA, I have no desire to do it again for weeks or months, and feel completely renewed and glowing for up to a week after.

With methylone, when it wears off it wears off quick, and all I want to do is eat more. I don't just crave more methylone either, I crave drugs in general. I'll chainsmoke and even smoke pot (which I normally don't like) and fiend for harder drugs for a few hours.

 

[fizzacyst]

I've had very poor experience with re-dosing methylone. For me it just seems to extend the stimulation and cracked-out feeling, with very little of the warmth I experienced in the first hour. Yet, a couple of times, I kept re-dosing anyway.

If I take it anymore, I set out a dose and thats it, no more. I fee like its a total waste to redose. YMMV.