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The Old and Overgrown DOC thread (fixed)

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Smoked a J, feel pretty stoned, but not extremely trippy. There seems to be very very faint moire-ing of my vision, but that's about it.
 
I fell asleep after that J, and woke up about an hour and a half later with an extremely clear head, and noticed the most potent visuals I've had with the stuff. On my poster of the Who (them wrapped in the UK flag) it seemed like their heads were coming out of the poster and looked real, and on my other poster (Townshend smashing his guitar) it looked like a window onto a 3d scene of the image. I started giggling, and everything around me seemed gorgeous.

Before the J and after the DOC, I decided to play some bball, as I hadn't exercised in a while. It seemed like that helped.

Hopefully this friday I'll be able to do a proper set up, with a completely empty stomach and a bit of exercise, and it will work better.
 
yeah i had 4.4mg the other day whilst watching shpongle dj (so set and setting had nothing to do with not tripping) , got no visuals, and a very mild trip. you're not the only person this is happening to! :(

oh, the whole thing felt like it lasted about 5 hours too.
 
Some people have high natural tolerance.

Some people trip on other medications which lower their sensitivity and don't know this is a problem.

Some people just aren't as impressed as other people.

Some people trip on full stomachs.

Some people have some of that old 2C-I mixed batch.

....

All I can say it take a break, and if your DOC is lasting 5 hours and 4-6mg is not giving you an intense trip, it's probably not pure DOC if DOC at all.
 
I haven't tried DOC (where I live that stands for Dept. of Corrections!), but DOI left me unimpressed. But as to how to ingest it, like my girlfriend said,"Eat Me"
 
bluedolphin said:
Some people have high natural tolerance.

Some people trip on other medications which lower their sensitivity and don't know this is a problem.

Some people just aren't as impressed as other people.

Some people trip on full stomachs.

Some people have some of that old 2C-I mixed batch.

....

All I can say it take a break, and if your DOC is lasting 5 hours and 4-6mg is not giving you an intense trip, it's probably not pure DOC if DOC at all.
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yeah, well, the last time i had something was over a month ago. i am on no medications, so thats not it. set and setting this time it definatly couldnt be, so that just leaves the last option, or, i have a high natural tolerance. my source is the only site that i know of that has "laboratory testing assay" but i dont really know how to read those assays. the supplier doesnt have DOC anymore so the assay is not there and i cant check it. maybe the source isnt as good as it appears to be. would also explain why normal sized doses dont really effect me that much. but then, so would being a natural hard head.

is there anyway that i can check to see if my batch is the contaminated one?
 
Zippycut & Markler - I'm about in the same boat as you. I ordered a fairly large chunk of DOC from a very reputable oversea source. Vouched 100% lab-tested. In experimented dosages in the 2.5 - 3 mg range there ensued a noticeable shift in consciousness with a sharpened acuteness for deep reflection. The body high was incredibly CLEAN like a low dose of lucy. However, I never got any of the extreme OEV or CEV's patterning of color or swirling vortex / fractal spirals. Nothing. Not one iota of long beautiful tracers. The duration of the trip would baseline at about 8 hours with no residual effects. Obviously this is in stark contrast to what everyone else has been reporting. The only remedy was to increase the dose... at 6 mg I got sucked into a world that was viewed in the same capacity as a newborn child feasts his eyes on all the sensory delights of life. In short, I was a little kid again. Everything was novel and fresh.

But why the initial tolerance at the low dose range? 2.5 - 3 mg's for me is apparently only an appetizer when for most others it's a full psychedelic dinner. Could my DOC somehow have deteriorated? Is it mildly contaminated despite protestations to the contrary?

Further thoughts?
 
it hits certain people harder then others. you should start low like you did. i find that i need higher end doses but thats me.
 
If you guys are having 5 and 8 hour durations that does sound like something isn't right. I mean I didn't trip that hard at all on 3mg but the stuff definetly lasted a good 12 hours with residual effects up to 18 hours.
 
A research monkey once told me that the rectal method for DOC works great.
 
I dunno about the plugging. I know it works just the same as any other route of ingestion but my ass is only an exit route...

It seems unlikely that my DOC is one of the contaminated batches, as the online vender I go through is consistantly the best in price and quality of the handful or so that are still operational selling RC's.

This weekend I plan to conduct a little experimental session with some friends and low level DOC dosage to determine their cummulative effects. Should be kinda interesting. Maybe I'm just an extreme hardhead. Even when I dose Lucy I usually end up eating at least a 10 strip.

While 6 mg's worked well for me, I still felt as though is was just a precurser opening to something on a more grand scale. Perhaps next time around I'll ingest 8-9 mg's. Honestly, I have had stronger trips on a healthy dose of 5 Meo Amt - which most people hate and I seem to love.

I wrote my RC vender with this abnormality / concern, so I'll add his explanation to this thread in due order.
 
On 2mg, it was a prolonged, not overly intense experience. Even 24 hours later it was somewhat difficult to get to sleep. The intensity only really lasts for about 12 hours however.
 
DOC - bad news - very bad news

WTF?! I have just gotten a very unusual report about two DOC trips from friends of mine. Each one of them had 2 hits of blotter which should have contained roughly 2mg DOC each...

Well, this is what I got until now, I'll try to gather more information as soon as possible though...

"This shit hurt, and it hurt a lot."
"we're alive, and it's funny"
"but yeah, this analog is fucked!!"
"cause we just spent 12 hours in absolute physical pain"
"i mean, like frightened, shit i'm poisoned pain"
i seriously decided to quit all drugs as a result of this trip" (This person had over 300 hits of acid before that)
"the substance was a concentrated pain in the stomach that debilated normal synaptic firing"
"basically,, we were hyperventilating for 4 hours"
"that caused some considerable chest pain"
"followed by more waves of stomach pain"
"followed by more waves on uncontrollable ceizures"
"the trip was intense"
"no visual halluycinations"
"purely my minds being raped"
"tomorrow, death and pain were all there for chirstmas"
"plus god damn loons kept running around all night around the tent"

Ok, if this isn't bad news, I don't know what is...

crOOk
 
How do you know it was DOC on the blotter, and not DOB or something else? I find it hard to believe they got no visual effect from ~4mg of DOC.

From the comments there, it sounds kind of like they just took about twice as much as they needed, had a severe anxiety attack and bad trip.

... not to play down the possible danger or anything.. but I don't know if that alone is sufficient evidence to warrant any kind of panic about the safety of DOC.

I've tripped hundreds of times and said the same thing about quitting drugs forever after I had my first and only bad trip on some strong mushrooms, where I had many of those symptoms. I was back at it not too long after that.

Do post more info when you get it, though.
 
crOOk said:
blotter which should have contained roughly 2mg DOC each...
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3 possible explanations:

1) idisosyncratic reaction to the compound

2) it's not 2mg but way more (can you be really sure of dosage? is liquid DOC always evenly distributed on a sheet?)

3) it's not DOC because whoever supplied it lied or made a mistake


Cases of 'mistaken identity' due to human error in synthesis or simply cases of ' accidentally grabbing the wrong compound from the shelf' are apparently getting ever more common when it comes to designer drugs. i find this a cause for concern.
 
I guess this goes to show it isnt as safe as we all assumed/hoped it would be.
Lets all remember the golden rule when it comes to testing out new chems.
Start low and work your way up.
Everyone reacts differently to these RC's so its best to play it safe.

Crook, have you tried these blotters yet?
 
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