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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

Yes, those auditory effects blow my mind. ..I actually had a +3 experience at 6mgs. I don't know what that was all about, but it suprised me.
 
Me and a friend have really been getting into deep discussion about breaking down the 2C-E experience. I have found four basic stages that I was wondering if any other experienced 2C-E users have found:

Stage 1: The euphoric stimulation
It is basically a stage where you feel a certain degree of euphoria coming on, and you feel some stimulation with light mental "wideness."

Stage 2: The calm before the storm
It is a stage where the psychological/visual effects are setting in, yet there is an awesome feeling of calm. This stage begins to expose the depth of the experience.

Stage 3: The Storm
This is a stage where the trip is fully on, immersive visuals/visions, unimaginable depth, intensity, and insight. This stage is quite unexplainable.

Stage 4: Divine introspection
This is a stage of "looking into" things. There is an intense introspection that induces incredible depth of conversations. Sometimes you talk about the experience, and sometimes you get into something completely new into the experience.

..I guess you could say "the storm" is the peak of the experience, but I've never really noticed an actual peak. All stages are quite intense in their own way. Anyone else notice something similar?
 
Hmm, interesting. I haven't spontaneously noticed that same structure to each 2C-E trip, but I'll definitely take note next time to see if I agree.
 
I dosed with 12mg, then redosed with another 12mg about 8 hours later, and I found it to be an intensely enjoyable (abeit mentally taxing) experience. Personally I think it would make a great party drug, I had the giggles for the entire day and when peaking found myself staring at rainbow ribbons that floated midair in my loungeroom.
 
I thought about trying it... but the bodyload for the first four hours tells me otherwise... I couldn't imagine listening to a horrible DJ on the 2C-E come-up... can you say puke time?!
 
Just wondering, what is that image in your avatar? Is it from a painting or something? I don't mean this in a bad way, it just looks strange. :)
 
http://www.jimwoodring.com/
It's from the uber-trippy world of Jim Woodring. It doesn't just look strange; it is strange.

Reading Woodring's comics several years ago was one of the first times I said to myself, "I really need to try hallucinogenic drugs someday". :)
 
How do you people think 2C-E is in combination with cannabis? When I combined cannabis with 2C-I it seemed like I was lifting off at the peak. I would like to hear how it affects someone tripping on 2C-E.
 
for me 2c-e completly disolved the boundry between myself and other things and persons. I refered to my body in the third person as "the mouse" and I would think things like "I wonder what the information that the mouse is sending is supposed to mean." Of all the drugs I have done this one might be the one I would be least inclinded to do around alot of other people.
 
cannabis potentiates 2c-e significantly, so don't take too much or you'll get confused and it is definitely not fun anymore.
 
anjovis said:
cannabis potentiates 2c-e significantly, so don't take too much or you'll get confused and it is definitely not fun anymore.

So you're saying that I would deffiently feel the 2C-E MORE if I smoked during the trip? I cannot even think about tripping without any cannabis in handy.
When do you reccomend smoking after dosage? Should it be done right after dosing to reduce any nausea or anxiety that I might have. Or should I hold out till the peak of the 2C-E (Usually 1.5 to 2.5 hours after dosage).
Some people have told me that smoking would greatly reduce the effects of the 2C-E because you wouldn't know whether you are high or you are trupping.
 
^^^ i find getting moderatly stoned before dosing is the best option for reducing nausea / body load. I then allow myself to slowly sober up as the 2ce kicks in.

I don't think you can simply say that weed potentiates 2ce. I think that weed takes the extreme edge of the trippiness / experience but adds to the confusion which can make it seem less managable.
 
i don't know about you, but for me & my friends weed has literally potentiated the effects when used in moderation during the peak (and it does that to most psychedelics, but with 2c-e the effects are more radical). If you have never tried 2c-e without cannabis, try it once and then try with the same amount a week later with some cannabis and you should be able to see the difference clearly.
 
I definitely find that there is a strong synergy between all the 2c's that i have tried and marijuana. As a result, i always prefer to have weed around when tripping on 2c's.
 
Yeah, but for me it's really easy to overdo it. If I take more than one or two tokes, it can easily make the trip a confused and paranoid disaster.
 
yes, I actually like the chemical clean trip also best. If cannabis is to be taken I always take so small amount that I would hardly notice it if sober. This doesn't add the confusing mental state but it still seem to increase the effects (or is it just the psychological effect, I am not sure...).
 
I wanted to bring up the 'fluffy' issue again. I've had 3 different 2C-E's, well, all i know is 3 different vials (well first one was a baggie, small sample) from 3 different companies, the 2nd vial was the extra fluffy one, and i'm convinced that stuff just ain't good 2c-e! Makes me wonder what else is in there?

The first stuff i got, well it worked great just like the stuff I have now (I still have a tiny bit of the shitty stuff left too). Many people have tried both kinds, and they too, more than just a few, say this newer is MUCH better than the other (fluffy). One guy said the other would make his nose stuffier, and the body feeling just wasn't the same. The trip just wasn't the same. I agree..

The 'good' 2c-e, really does feel a lot like MDMA, i've seen people get the jittery jaw thing going too, or even eye wiggles. I read people talk about a body load, the 'fluffier' seemed more jittery, and just didnt feel anywhere near as clean and good. Not only less potent, but, the visuals and trip itself really seem different, although similar . The good stuff usually makes pictures or whats on TV, take on a 3d look, or pictures just come alive, and ya got that euphoria going. The other seemed to do this a little maybe, but there was added "typical" 2c-whatever patterning that the good 2c-e seems to lack except maybe high doses but barely.

Just 12-14mg has me tripping very nicely, very euphoric. I still haven't even taken 20mg of the new. I remember taking 22mg of the fluffy along with a friend once, and he had some jitters on the come up, anyway we laughed our way up to the party store several times, laughing cause 'we just can't get high can we?' . I did save, two doses of 20mg of the oldest though, and soon after we tried that, and we were saying "oh no, we aren't gonna be laughing up to the party store this time!"

The 'good' stuff I have now, not saying it isn't "fluffy", its just much less fluffy than the shitty stuff. In a capsule it prob looks like 1/2 or sometimes 1/3 the size for however many mg, compared to the fluff. Is the 'bad' stuff gone for good/was it just maybe one batch that went around for a while til sold out, or is it still around? Or do you guys think i'm just nuts and there's no difference? 8o

I wonder what else could have been in it, or maybe like there was more of one isomer or something in that 'batch'? Wierd.. I sure like what I have now though! %)
 
yaesutom raises an interesting point - there is no real quality control when buying RCs.

I have also wondered if there is some variance in the quality of these drugs. I know that i have tried 12mg's of 2ce and been completely blown away, whereas i hear of other people taking 20mg's + and not feeling much. Could this be down to personal tolerance / variance or could it be down to batches varying in quality?
 
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The one and only batch I currently have is snow white and unusually fluffy. In fact, it looks like little cotton balls. It was very bizarre when I noticed tiny "fuzz balls" of 2C-E floating through the air in the room when I was measuring and weighing it.

I never eyeball chemicals and certainly discourage others from doing so, and I believe amounts of this one can not be visually estimated worth jack. One "puff ball" weighed a couple of milligrams while another weighed more than 10X this much. I have never seen such a fascinating substance.

Needless to say, 15mg of this batch has provided an "intense trip" with full-on visuals for everyone I know who has tried it. Two people who split a 15mg dose (read: 7.5mg each) both reported it to be overly intense and chose not to repeat it. I find that for me 20mg is enough and my partner. My entire visual field melts and morphs into images that seem some how directed by my subconscious. The tactile sensations provided are "terrifyingly intense". Oh, the sex on it was great too. Some day I might try more, but I'm reluctant to as I think I've said more than once during my 20mg trips "this stuff is so intense, it's scary".

Fluffy isn't necessarily a bad thing. I hope my next batch is like the first one. Just looking at and playing with the chemical (poking it and stirring it around) was a trippy experience. :)
 
i got some really fluffy stuff, it looked normal until i opened the bag, and inspected it. the 2C-E was packed together in little clumps. I did 14mg of it, and was not impressed. I've since gotten some more 2C-E that looks of much better quality. I will probably do the same amount of the new stuff to compare them both.
 
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