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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

It's not you we're pissed at it's your dealer! (U probably shouldn't have mention his name, even his first, as this site is monitored by DEA) No one should sell research chemicals FULL STOP. If thy do they should at least give an ammount accurate to the precision required by the chem (for 2C-e this should be 0.5mg-1mg).

Jesus, though, if your willing to put something into your body that has been tested by probably less than a few thousand people then you should at least read all the information available to you (on the possibly the best drugs research site on the web).

I don't blame you but caution MUST be exercised with these chems and (it sounds like) your dealer may be one of the people that are destroying the chance for this wonderful substance to be used for ligitimate psychotherapy research...

But have fun tonight, and enjoy your aniversiry. :)
 
your dealer didn't tell you how much he gave you? the doses for 2C-E have been pretty sporadic, there's no way that somebody on bluelight could tell you how much he gave you. I personally would recommend between 12-16mg for someone's first time with 2C-E, but unless you have an accurate scale there's really no way of telling.
 
Oh and dosages vary wildly between people. I find between 10-20mgs a large dosage but Skrilla obviously requires quite a bit more. These things are so delicate we should realy be using micrograms/kg but as this is such a hassle I can't see anyone adopting this.

FOR MODS! Maybe there should be a height/weight entry available in our personal report, this would allow us more serious psychonaughts to find more accurate mgs/kg ratios.... just a thought. :)
 
p-mo said:
These things are so delicate we should realy be using micrograms/kg but as this is such a hassle I can't see anyone adopting this.
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What makes you think body weight plays a factor in these small doses..?
 
oh and our personal report pages should be viewable by everyone (name, email address, city, gender, height, weight, country, city and age).

(Now THIS is really off topic so PLEASE remove and take into account!)
 
I tend to find that body mass plays a HUGE ammount for all drugs. My short skinny friends (of which I am one) tend to be quite light-headed and my tall-fat friends require a lot more of most substances. In personal experience: Alcohol (obviously), MDMA, LSD, Mushrooms, 2C-i, 2C-T-2, Ketamine and almost everything.

Perhaps pot is the only exception but this tends to be related to the type of weed, and gap between smoking.

Is it hugely different for you?
 
p-mo said:
oh and our personal report pages should be viewable by everyone (name, email address, city, gender, height, weight, country, city and age).

(Now THIS is really off topic so PLEASE remove and take into account!)
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????

If people don't like to write their name down, then they don't.. If we all had to write down where we lived, 30.00 people on Bluelight would've been busted.. E-mail adresses can be spammed to death.. So on and so forth..
 
p-mo said:
Is it hugely different for you?
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Yes, you may have noticed some patterns amongst your group of friends, but this observation doesn't mean that we all have this kind of response to certain psychedelics.

I have personally thought about this quite a bit, but no-one will be able to tell what it actually is that affects everyone so differently at different dosages of whatever compounds.. There are too many factors that come into play.

[edit]In fact, I'm going to open a thread right now (or a bit later :)) about what are, or could be the reasons for the varying reports on the net about tiny dosages doing something not from expected, and large dosages doing virtually next to nothing..[/edit]
 
Well okay by name I meant bluelight name, I'm sure every city in the world has SOME drug user so that wouldn't be a problem. What I meant was that people could submit these details IF THEY WANTED TO. Currently we can't. All I want is to see if someone who took 30mgs of 2C-e and got no trip is in fact 6'11 and 340 pounds! Obviously the anoniminity of this site is what attracts alot of people but some basic physical information: height, weight, sex and age, would be hugely useful...
 
ive seen people have 20mg and say not enough and end up tripping nicely after about 40 to 50mg and others eat 16mg and say its way too intense. And i dont think it goes by body weight either as two of my close friends are both small and eat at least 40mg to trip (i am 40 pounds heavier and a more frequent user and still only need 25mg for an insane trip).
 
i got to redo this and its real weird how long it takes to start going. most of the people around me wern't feeling a thing after an hour. i had fun and definately tripped for a lot longer than before because i upped the dose. like it has been said although i dont feel euph0ric or enlightened... the body load is huge for me and i usually feel uncomfortable. i think 2-CI is my happy medium ;c
 
got to redo this and its real weird how long it takes to start going. most of the people around me wern't feeling a thing after an hour
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I eat some 4-0H-DIPT immediately prior to the 2-CE...that keeps me occupied and happy while waitng for 2-CE to kick in...
 
ive enjoyed 2c-e alot.
but females that have taken it "normaly" have less viusals than males on the same dose....

the is not all the time a friend eat a small dose and saw alot more than the males present...
i dont know whats up but its odd.


HF
 
After my first 2c-e trial i have to say that i'm a bit disappointed. I took around 16mg (probably 17). It took ages to come up (about 3h and a half) and the experience was intense but not "mind-blowing" as i expected. Some nice visuals (not as nice as those from 2c-b, imo), considerably stomach discomfort, jaw clenching at the end of the trip...
Anyway the experience was very interesting, 2c-e is a real psychedelic. But I seemed to be blocked, and unable to go deeper. I was stuck with the same thought/feeling all night. Maybe i had too many expectations about it, i'll try again someday with 18mg and a different setting.

And, for me, the best description of the effects of 2c-e is the one in Pihkal : "I don't think I like it, since it isn't that much fun. But I intend to explore it again."
 
The same thing happened to me on my first and so far only 2C-E trip. I took 14mg and was somewhat disappointed. I too felt that the 2C-E was strongly psychedelic, but I couldn't seem to go any deeper than where I was at. I'm going to try 16mg next time, I think that it was mostly a matter of dosage. Although, people do tend to comment on the inconsistency of this material, sometimes it's incredibly powerful while other times it's somewhat disappointing.
 
A couple days ago a decided to try a 6mg 2C-E trip. I had used doses of 12mgs and 16mgs before, and I was wanting to explore the lower doses. All I can say is this chemical is strong. 6mgs gave me a full +3 experience. I had plenty of visuals, one vision, and the same depth that causes me to stare wide-eyed at the sky in awe with the higher doses. I mean, it was by no means as intense as 16mgs, but most inexperienced users would probably think it's quite a strong chemical at this dose. There was much more euphoria this time around as well. I mean, the same "serious" theme was there, but my body felt so awesome. I felt very calm. My friend's girlfriend had a +4 experience on 8mgs that night as well. She had an experience with God that night that changed her deeply.
 
I never take psychedelics on a full stomach. I usually fast for 6 hours before ingesting them. I ingested it at 9PM, started feeling the slow onset after about 20 minutes, and it lasted strong until around 1:30-2PM. ..Of course, I was still feeling the effects at around 4PM when I went to sleep. I actually had no trouble sleeping, and I didn't use any Benzodiazepines to help, as I sometimes do.
 
Just a note...

I've noticed something with 2C-E.

If I take 200mg of 5-HTP about 5 minutes before taking it, and a multi-vitamin about 6 hours before taking it, I trip every time. I also throw in a B-50 complex for good measure.

It reduces the body load, and I have tripped balls every time.

In fact, it seems that vitamins and 5-HTP seem to boost the effects of every phenethylamine I've done and 4-AcO-MiPT, in the tryptamine family.

It also allows me to not feel completely lethargic on the 2C-E, which is a definite plus.

I do this same regimen every time that I roll, and I always roll nuts when I do it. If I don't do it, I roll, but not very hard.

Just a suggestion, for those that, like me, find 2C-E very inconsistent. Every 2C-E experience that I've had since I started doing this has blown away my mind, literally.

In fact, I've gotten to the point where 2C-E is so deep that I don't pay much attention to the visuals. I either dance, writhe around in a state of ecstacy, have deep conversations with others, or meditate.

It seems to have this state where "anything goes".
 
I have also found 2C-E to be rather consistent, with a number of doses at 1 to 20mg, spaced well apart of course. I enjoy it so much because the effects are predictable to a degree, especially at lower doses, and thus I find it easy to suit a dose to a setting. For example, 4mg will always bring on a very light yet interesting change of mindstate and minor body feeling (which I will have to label a feeling of oneness), But it's the amazing auditory enhancement which draws me to the low doses. Music sounds extremely clean and crisp, actually, I will try to describe my musical feelings with 2C-E. My audio input simply becomes a large (and possibly infinite) plane in space, and as notes play I can see the sound (as mathematical curves.. I am a CompSci major, lots of math in me) and pinpoint exactly where it is coming from on this plane. The location of the physical sound source (speakers, headphones.. becomes totally irrelevant), and other features that make up the sound (pitch, tone, volume, etc) completely determine location on this audio plane. I will note though that although I describe seeing the mathematical waves, I wouldn't really call it a visual.. it's not open eye, or closed eye, seems just a different way to hear. I would hesitate to say it may feel like the way a bat can 'see' using echo location, but it's about the closest description I can think of.

Anyways, at higher doses these effects remain and a variety of stronger mental and visual effects usually overwhelm the audio changes :) Doses above 10mg can end up going from +2 to +3 pretty quick, so I will note though that I have been slightly overwhelmed on one occasion (Not that I minded, but for the setting the dose I choose had slightly more effect then previously noted and expected from this very consistent chemical), do not underestimate 2C-E by any means. As always, be in a friendly place :)
 
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