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The Official Tramadol Discussion Thread

edgewise1 said:
I start the out with 600 mg's of tramadol, 800 mg's of ibuprofen, a 20 oz cup of convinence store coffee (great coffee), and 2 cigs also, but mine are regular Pall Mall 100's.

It's a great way to start!
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I keep reading about people taking ibuprofen with tram, surely this is for analgesic effects and not potentination? seeing as ibuprofen isn't recreational
 
Yes, I take the ibuprofen for pain and the swelling causing the pain. Any "extra" high I get is purely placebo. At first I did think it was potentiating tram but after running out of the ibup for a week I came to the above conclusion.
 
I'm stunned by this thread. I don't get how people get off on Tramadol. Do tell? Sure it puts a bit of a pep to your step but it feels dirty. My doctor handed them out like candy, and in a house of 2 head-on pill poppers, those things sit untouched. Add it to the cabinet of pills I take just to be polite.
 
I am well aware that my body doesn't like the Tramadol anymore. I've been off it for quite awhile now actually. :D I'm sure my tolerance is down around 100 -200mg by now.
 
mami said:
I'm stunned by this thread. I don't get how people get off on Tramadol. Do tell? Sure it puts a bit of a pep to your step but it feels dirty. My doctor handed them out like candy, and in a house of 2 head-on pill poppers, those things sit untouched. Add it to the cabinet of pills I take just to be polite.
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read the thread there areLOTS of pages about how people get off.

I don't understand this statement, you take pills to be polite? from who? your doctor? cause you are his patient/customer, if you don't like what he is writing you tell him so and get something else.
 
Yeah, good point..8) It's a bad habit of mine to sometimes reply before reading most of a thread! But I'm working on that.

Tramadol feels speedy to me.
 
mami said:
Yeah, good point..8) It's a bad habit of mine to sometimes reply before reading most of a thread! But I'm working on that.

Tramadol feels speedy to me.
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that is because it has both opiate like effects and affects on adrenaline and serotonin, the second effects cause it to be speedy feeling. But the longer you take it you become adjusted to that speedy feeling and don't really feel it as much anymore, i found that after taking it for a week or two the opiate effect was more intense and besides a little alertness i didn't feel speedy at all.
 
I like the speedy feeling because I have a lot to do, but something keeps me from getting anything done after noon. If I take some tramadol mid-day it'll give me a boost for the rest of the day, even into the night.

I'm going to keep my use at no more than 1x week.
 
I am wondering if anyone has any experience going from suboxone to tramadol. I am on a VERY VERY small dose of suboxone..Its hard to tell the exact dosage amount, but basically what I do is this: imagine breaking an 8mb sub in half, then imagine breaking off the smallest piece you can without making it crumble from one of the edges. I snort that about twice a day. I would say its about .5-.7 mg, but could be off by a little. anyway, I have horrible tooth pain due to an abscess, and I am at school upstate ny. the only dentist i can see is back home about 2 hrs away, and i will see him either sat or monday. i am getting tram tomorrow and i am about to take my small dose of suboxone right now (6:41 pm) and will not take anymore until i take my tramadol which will be tomorrow at like 11 am - 1 pm. i am really just curious about tolerance issues. is the tramadol going to be less effective even though i take such a small dose of suboxone? i was gonna start with 150 mg and go from there. is that too little/too much? i am looking for a pretty decent buzz but not looking to go nuts and nod or anything.
 
I think, to enjoy Tramadol properly, you have to have been taking it for at least a few days, building up your tolerance. The first day or two, I always got in a really irritable mood and argued with people all the time, but after that, it was just a calm painless bliss from morning until night. The chronic pain I feel all the time was gone and it was like being a normal person for the first time. I was productive in my college work and hobbies and was happy and content like a happy kid at Christmas.

This could never last however, because soon enough, after a few weeks, my tolerance would build and I would be taking up to 1000mg per day which was frightening and also very expensive. There were also very unpleasant side effects like severe constipation and weight loss. So anyway, eventually I would have to stop taking it and experience the harsh withdrawals. I tried cutting down slowly,but this never worked and I couldnt resist the temptation just to take more so cold turkey was how it always went.

The first day after stopping taking it was fine but, the day after that, I would wake up feeling so bad, like extreme anxiety and depression and a feeling that the world was just a dark and scary place. Every hour seemed like a day, and the thought of just making it through the day would make me break down in tears. When sleeping I had terrifying nightmares and would wake up in a puddle of sweat every night. I've never experienced anything worse. I had no energy to walk or move. This feeling stayed for about 5 or 6 days and then slowly started to disappear taking just over a week to feel anything close to normal. The nightmares a sweating would continue up to a month after stopping.

So after going through this cycle of addiction and withdrawal many times, I would absolutely never take this drug again. I'm not even vaguely tempted to go and buy any at all which is good.
 
I think I can relate to every word of that Lazy. It really is a strange drug. One 50mg could have me quite euphoric, motivated and euthymic in mood and yet at other times I would need at least 200mg to feel anything. The irritability too is rather disconcerting. I want out too but am unsure what route, CT or slow reduction? I've been taking it daily (50mg - 400mg) for nearly a year. Have a decent supply of Vals which should come in handy. Any advice would be helpful.
 
I would definitely recommend a slow reduction but this will take enormous self discipline. I could never do it. It would help to be organised. Maybe make an Excel spreadsheet that tells you how much you should take daily and stick to it. I think a reasonable reduction would be 50mg less every week for 8 weeks or something.

The other option which is quicker, would be cold turkey and using the Valium to ease the symptoms. (I wish Id had Valium during my withdrawals). The problem with that however, is that you will have a week or two of hell and you might be left with a Valium addiction and then have to go through withdrawals from that.

Its definitely worth getting off the Tramadol. Youll feel so much better and healthier and in control of your life.
 
Thanks for that Lazy. I like the idea of the spreadsheet and your last sentence has motivated me even more. Cheers.
 
DonQuixote said:
I think I can relate to every word of that Lazy. It really is a strange drug. One 50mg could have me quite euphoric, motivated and euthymic in mood and yet at other times I would need at least 200mg to feel anything. The irritability too is rather disconcerting. I want out too but am unsure what route, CT or slow reduction? I've been taking it daily (50mg - 400mg) for nearly a year. Have a decent supply of Vals which should come in handy. Any advice would be helpful.
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I suggest you reduce slowly by 50mg a day if you take capsules or 25mg a day if you have tablets and can break them in half.

How do you take them? Do you do one 500mg dose at once or a couple 250mg doses a day?

if you take one dose a day just reduce by 25-50 a day.

If you take more than one dose a day i say take them twice a day and do like this:

with capsules:
-------morning--------evening:
day1: 250--------------250
day2: 250--------------200
day3: 200--------------200
day4: 200--------------150
day5: 150--------------150
day6: 150--------------100
day7: 100--------------100
day8: 100---------------50
day9: 50-----------------50
day10: 50-----------------00
day11: 00-----------------00

With Tablets:

-------morning--------evening:
day1: 250--------------250
day2: 250--------------225
day3: 225--------------225
day4: 225--------------200
day5: 200--------------200
day6: 200--------------175
day7: 175--------------175
day8: 175--------------150
day9: 150--------------150
day10: 150--------------125
day11: 125--------------125
day12: 125--------------100
day13: 100--------------100
day14: 100---------------75
day15: 75----------------75
day16: 75----------------50
day17: 50----------------50
day18: 50----------------25
day19: 25----------------25
day20: 25----------------00
day21: 00----------------00

I have used this method many times with tramadol and also with other addictive drugs. It works provided you stick to the schedule. If you begin to suffer harsh withdrawals after shrinking your dose one day; stay at that dose for a day or two until you are comfortable before lowering it again. You really should stick to the schedule as close as possible though.

I myself am on day 15 of a 20day detox from Dihydrocodiene. I know you can do it. I personally have used this method about 6 times.

You can use again after detox but you should wait at least 2-4 weeks before trying to use casually/recreationally again or you may slip right back into full blown addiction/dependency.

Good luck, you CAN do this.
 
mami said:
I like the speedy feeling because I have a lot to do, but something keeps me from getting anything done after noon. If I take some tramadol mid-day it'll give me a boost for the rest of the day, even into the night.

I'm going to keep my use at no more than 1x week.
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Famous last word's? I hope not. Just be careful and if it is going to be 1x a week,keep it 1x a week.

Btw, anyone take tramadol and flexeril together? What would be the effects, and if hydrocodone is added to the mix, how much should I cut my tramadol dose?
Had to go to the ER yesterday afternoon and it seems I twisted, pulled, or pinched my sciatic nerve. I've had back pain before but NOTHING like this pain. Hence my question as that was what I was prescribed. Was unable to get it filled. By the time I left the hospital, the local pharmacies were closed.
 
Moral Decay said:
I suggest you reduce slowly by 50mg a day if you take capsules or 25mg a day if you have tablets and can break them in half.

How do you take them? Do you do one 500mg dose at once or a couple 250mg doses a day?

if you take one dose a day just reduce by 25-50 a day.

If you take more than one dose a day i say take them twice a day and do like this:

with capsules:
-------morning--------evening:
day1: 250--------------250
day2: 250--------------200
day3: 200--------------200
day4: 200--------------150
day5: 150--------------150
day6: 150--------------100
day7: 100--------------100
day8: 100---------------50
day9: 50-----------------50
day10: 50-----------------00
day11: 00-----------------00

With Tablets:

-------morning--------evening:
day1: 250--------------250
day2: 250--------------225
day3: 225--------------225
day4: 225--------------200
day5: 200--------------200
day6: 200--------------175
day7: 175--------------175
day8: 175--------------150
day9: 150--------------150
day10: 150--------------125
day11: 125--------------125
day12: 125--------------100
day13: 100--------------100
day14: 100---------------75
day15: 75----------------75
day16: 75----------------50
day17: 50----------------50
day18: 50----------------25
day19: 25----------------25
day20: 25----------------00
day21: 00----------------00

I have used this method many times with tramadol and also with other addictive drugs. It works provided you stick to the schedule. If you begin to suffer harsh withdrawals after shrinking your dose one day; stay at that dose for a day or two until you are comfortable before lowering it again. You really should stick to the schedule as close as possible though.

I myself am on day 15 of a 20day detox from Dihydrocodiene. I know you can do it. I personally have used this method about 6 times.

You can use again after detox but you should wait at least 2-4 weeks before trying to use casually/recreationally again or you may slip right back into full blown addiction/dependency.

Good luck, you CAN do this.
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Thanks for your help there. It would have to be the bd frequency with the capsules due to the nature of my work and my routines etc. Eleven days sounds tolerable too as I have coming up in the next few weeks some heavy domestic responsibilities. I'm fed up of being so tetchy with everyone. I used to think Tram was wonderful. It certainly isn't anymore.
 
edgewise1 said:
Famous last word's? I hope not. Just be careful and if it is going to be 1x a week,keep it 1x a week.

Btw, anyone take tramadol and flexeril together? What would be the effects, and if hydrocodone is added to the mix, how much should I cut my tramadol dose?
Had to go to the ER yesterday afternoon and it seems I twisted, pulled, or pinched my sciatic nerve. I've had back pain before but NOTHING like this pain. Hence my question as that was what I was prescribed. Was unable to get it filled. By the time I left the hospital, the local pharmacies were closed.
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personally If I were prescribed flexeril and hydrocodone I would stop taking tram, this is not good for everyone due to the snri withdrawal, I myself do not expereince that If i replace it with another opiate. good luck in finding the info you need.
 
Tramadol is an evil drug that should be more regulated than codeine they are related but no where near the same. The effects on your body's Serotonin levels are what give it the MDMA, speed, rolling effects increased energy etc... If your heavily energized from Tramadol's and they make the world all better you need an Antidepressant! There are much safer drugs than Tramadol. I had whacked withdrawals AT LEAST 2 WEEKS of misery unexplainable withdrawal worse than quiting daily Oxy/H+Coke addiction. I suspect if you have underlying depression+pain this is a good drug to use sparingly. But if your using it for recreation purposes you might be better off sniffing glue/gasoline or another solvent as there both about as harmful to your body as tramadol is. It all became of big pharmacy dr think this stuff is super safe to use for everything. I willing to bet LSD+Heroin would be a safer rx! And easier for the end user to quit... Then again your brain/body chemistry is different and your millage may very.

One thing that is underplayed here is Serotonin Syndrome which is what makes the withdrawls even worse.... Every have a rough come down from speed/mdma/coke you know that ugly feeling you have until you finally fall asleep.... Think of that lasting for 2 WEEKS or more Depending on how your brain/body chemistry is effected .... instead of a few hours... This is why you should never do Trams with Coke as the combined effects will totally confuse your body and it will just shut down from over loaded receptors... It will make you wish you smoke crystal meth until your teeth fell out it's that bad....

Then again I can completely understand some people getting loads of pleasure... For those people talk to your Dr! You need a legal RX for Depression etc...
 
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