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The Official "Secrets to Women" thread

Ok Ok i know - i never claimed to know WHY you are proud of your man. I acknowledge it is not for competitive purposes. Satisfied? sheesh. Respond to my last post ladies
 
Re: Re: YEA, ...way off topic ......oh well

PhorIndicator said:
I admire your openness and candor. I was wondering if you (and all the other females responding to this thread would open up a little more and divulge and describe what some of your "secret desires and preferences such as attractiveness, submissiveness...that some of you hide and deny" are. What REALLY turns you on. What turns you on? Do you like being dominated in the bedroom and thrown down on the mattress? Do you like being talked dirty to? like, "you nasty little slut, you little cock-whore, you want this cock don't you, oh yeah you do mmmmm yeah you naughty little slut" - not you specifically but the universal "you. Don't be shy please, and don't think i am trying to be chauvinistic or derisive towards females... i am just interested.
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The universal "you"? I really can't speak for all women, we're all so different but I can speak for myself, if that helps any:

My secret desires... alright, I'll be brutally honest here. I want to be completely adored, and treated like a princess. Maybe I read too many fairy tales when I was a kid , but I do have this secret vision of a knight in shining armour sweeping me off my feet with a wink and a little grin. Thing is, I sometimes feel as if I have so much affection to give, but I only want to give it to someone who is willing to give it back to me... And there's the security thing again. I want to feel 'taken care of'. Not that I'm not totally capable of taking care of myself- I am, and I don't want to rely completely on my bf either. These days women are mostly independent, and I don't think I'd want to rely on a guy for money or other material things, or even non-material things. In this case it's the small things that count. Like opening doors for me, being there for me to hold onto when I'm watching a really scary movie... One night when my bf slept over I had a nightmare, that vampires and clowns were breaking into my apartment. I woke up in a cold sweat, and saw him lying there snoring softly and I felt completely safe....


And yes, I want a bad boy who will at times treat me like a total slut in bed (dominant guys... mmm) and when I say slut I mean like a fucking 10-dollar hooker- not all the time though, gentle yet intense sex is good at times too. What really turns me on is when a guy (that I am attracted to) is completely turned on by me.

Uh, I don't really know what else to add. Oh, and being treated like a princess isn't the same as having a doormat for a boyfriend. I don't want someone that I can fuck around with, I want someone I can respect (and look up to sometimes, I suppose). Yea, anyway, I tried to answer your question but I feel as if I'm just babbling... but as a grand conclusion I'll just say that I want a guy who will make me feel feminine .
 
Do you like it when guys order you around to do stuff? Like "go get me a burger" or when they are not really nice to you... i'm not saying unfriendly, but when they like seem to sort of ignore you but are not faking it.

When i said universal "you" earlier, all i meant was i was asking all the women to respond, not just esourceR. Ya'll are getting so picky.

Also, i think your post was fine, but i am talking about like deep, dark desires, desires you would not want to admit. Every girl on earth will say she wants to be treated like a princess. Not every girl will admit she likes it when guys treat her roughly or like shit - even if she really does like it. and NO i am not saying all girls like to be treated like that. but thats what i am asking. i am asking what are the desires women have that they are ashamed to admit (or maybe just dont want to).
 
PhorIndicator said:
Do you like it when guys order you around to do stuff? Like "go get me a burger" or when they are not really nice to you... i'm not saying unfriendly, but when they like seem to sort of ignore you but are not faking it.
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Hell no. The correct response to a command like that would be: "Go get you a burger? How about I get you a spoon so you can EAT MY ASS? ".

=D

Demanding and ignoring assholes: that aint sexy.
 
Sure. Just give me some topics on what you would like me to post about. Give me specific questions, anyone, and I will be happy to share any insights I may have.
 
Oh, I just got the impression that you had plans for a more extended post about what men want in relationships.

But if not, there's definitely scope for us to flesh this topic out more, even though we'd be drifting a little from the original thread.8) Mods if you want a separate thread created for this just say so!

Since you (like me) are a guy, I was thinking you'd have more to say on what men want in a relationship than all the stuff on secrets to women. Like for instance, to what extent do guys look for similar things in relationships as they grow older? To what extent do these things change? You and I are only in our early 20s so perhaps it would be good to have some input from older bluelighters as well.
 
Strawberry_lovemuffin said:
"Hi" ;) * sweet, sort of nervous but cheeky smile*

.... has been the only one that's ever genuinely worked on me.

I think all the others are just jokes.... or a joke. You've got to have genuine charm and body language as the first criteria.... words are superfluous.
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Strawberry post this in another thread, but I thought I would use it as a launchpad for my next insight into the wonderful world of women.

One of the things I find most interesting about the beautiful and delicate female specimen is that they do not require or even seek the same degree of beauty in their male counterparts. And thank God!!, right? :) Some of us guys are not exactly Greek gods.... But I love this fact; that women look for other traits when looking for a men besides attractiveness. And to a pretty large extent I'd say. Granted, physical attraction is of course necessary to some degree for any relationship to work; but with women, I'd say physical attraction constitutes may be 20-40% of the equation. (And I said 40% more in reference, to younger, immature girls, who mainly just want a hot guy to fuck and are not looking for a relationship - I guess this could go for any girl who's just looking to fuck - but still, it's around 40% max I'd say) Guys, on the other hand, value physical attractiveness much more when looking for a female mate. The reasoning I use to support this is the same reasoning I have used throughout the thread - women are seeking a suitable husband (instinctually) and therefore looks for qualities which they instinctually understand would make their SO a good husband (mating partner) - and needless to say, physical attractiveness is not all that important when it comes to a guy being successful in the world or as a husband. I mean, look at male models - do we ever hear about them? No. And when we do, do we respect them? No. Hehe... at least I don't. I mean take Bill Gates for example. Wealthiest guy in the Western hemisphere, and he is not exactly Adonis. Or take a guy like David Spade - now he has dated some FINE women. I can't remember their names right now for some reason but I know that he has dated at least 3-4 "10"s. And I don't classify a girl as a 10 very often. Actually, hardly ever. I think Monica Bellucci and Jennifer Connelly are both 10s. Agghhh getting off topic. Let's take another example.... hmm... well, Mick Jagger even. I guarantee you that if Mick Jager was not a rock star, he would not be nearly as successful with women. I mean I could be wrong, but when I look at him his face looks deformed or something. That goes for the rest of the rolling stones, some of which are even uglier than jager but still probably get laid out the wazoo.

Men, however DO look for physical attraction when looking for their female partner - and I would say (the truth can sometimes be ugly/can hurt) that about 90% (MAYBE 80 - if the guy is like Ghandi) of their qualifications has to do with physical attraction. 10% goes to personality/chemistry etc. Again, I use the same reasoning I did earlier in my post. Guys instinctually want to mate as many women as possible, so they look for signs of a good female to mate (youth, beauty, slim hips, big booty, fulll breasts, soft, moist, wet..... lips ;) )Sorry, but its true. Guys may not admit it, but if they are honest with themselves, they would. Now I am not saying that's all men look for. I'm saying that's all men look for INITIALLY. Eventually, I don't care how pretty the girl is, if their is no chemistry and she is boring or just a straight up bitch, the guy (if he respects himself) will dump her ass. Listen to the words of that song "Roses" by Outkast btw.... made me think of this type of girl when I heard it. "You know you like to think your shit dont stink, but lean a lil bit closer and see, roses really smell like woo-ooo....etc"

Ok, enough about guys. I don't want to fuck guys =D Now, I have my

Insight # 3: Women don't care all that much about looks - you can still be un-attractive and get a hot girl. The key to women is ATTITUDE. Attitude, that's right. Like strawberry said in her post, words are superfluous. I have a lot of fun with this, actually. Because, as ya'll may have noticed, I can be extremely loquacious. And dating and women is only one of many subjects I enjoy pontificating about at large length. And when I pontificate, I tend to be humorous (which, guys, you will find out yourselves. If you keep on talking about something you're knowledgeable in or are passionate, your true personality is bound to surface. And the truth is, most guys can be pretty damn funny) and can be "charming" - or so I have been told. A little bluebird told me one sunny afternoon ;) But since I can bullshit so well, it really doesn't even matter WHAT THE FUCK i am talking about when I am hitting on a woman. LOLLLLLLL! I'll talk about all kinds of shit man, dating, philosophy, art, history, mathematics, epistemology, sex, people in the room, the weather, the texture and taste of the air I'm breathing, ANYTHING. The reason I get away with it is because of the attitude I have behind it. No matter what I am talking about in a conversation with a woman, always at the forefront of my mind is the fact that I really want to jump this girl. So I'll never let myself get too off-topic. I'll always twist whatever kind of topic I'm talking about into some kind of sexually suggestive reference or hint towards the woman I am talking to.

For example (I'm making this up off the top of my head) " Yeah, so I got in late from work today. (she asks how was work) "Ohh... it was alright. I mean - its WORK (with a knowing and sarcastic grin (and invting grin)). But I am SOOOO happy I'm finally done with it. Like you have no idea how happy I am. (she's all curious now, she's like "why are u so happy) "Sarah (call them by their name), did you really have to ask? Because I am talking to this really fine chick of course (naughty wink). (She says something like "ohhhhh, is THAT so huh" and will inevitably smile).\

See what I mean. If you know how to approach a woman, she will innately respect you for it, and will respond accordingly. Women will play the game with almost ANY guy. As long as she doesn't think he's psycho or crazy. Looks aren't important. The woman is interested in find out "what's this guy about..." "what makes him different than others guys..." "I am impressed by this guy, he's not that good-looking but he's still got the balls to hit on me...." that's another interesting thing. I have not experienced this personally (well, lately I have to a degree, since I am getting a potbelly from all the opiates I'm consuming) but you can actually surprise a girl if you're not Mr. Hot-cock-on-the-block but you've still got class and know how to respond to her. It's all about the attitude man. Confidence, a little bit of playfulness, and suggestiveness. Make her think you've got everything licked, even though you may be some junkie living out of a cardboard box. Act like your Tom fucking Cruise snorting coke off Rebecca Romein's ass after you just got back from a movie premiere. Women will buy it. It signals to them, on a purely instinctual level, that you are good mating material (which is what they LOOK for). But back to what I was saying earlier, you can surprise a girl if you're not all that on a physical level but can still hit on her with class. It's sort of a "back-door man" kind of thing. Can't really describe hehe.

With your ATTITUDE signal to them that you've got your shit together, life is good, you're genuinely SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to them, and that you're not afraid to approach them, no matter how hot they are. Always keep the sexual attraction in the forefront of your mind. Otherwise, the conversation will veer off and you may end up in the dreaded "friends" zone. Also, remember, it doesn't matter what the fuck you're bullshitting about (except weird stuff - easy, you trekkies out there), if you say it like you're saying it with the intent to make her laugh or like you because you actually want to get into her pants, she'll eat it up like a pregnant woman with a half-gallon of Rocky road ice cream.

One more thing, even though this is not specifically related to insight number 3 (ATTITUDE) - LISTEN to her responses. If you bullshit well with a good attitude but don't listen to what she's saying back to you, she'll know and just think you're some cocky fuck who thinks he's too cool for school. Aghhhh I don't want to divulge all my insights/secrets/whatever - but I think I have said enough for one post. Attitude, boys, attitude.

Humor, strength, not too much sass
Combined with content
Gets the ass

(I just made that up heh)
 
Hang on let me reorganise your poem:

"Humor, strength, not too
Much sass combined with
Content Gets the ass"

Lol it's just as I thought. You just wrote a haiku!!!
 
It's all about the attitude man. Confidence, a little bit of playfulness, and suggestiveness. Make her think you've got everything licked, even though you may be some junkie living out of a cardboard box. Act like your Tom fucking Cruise snorting coke off Rebecca Romein's ass after you just got back from a movie premiere. Women will buy it.
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Tu che.
 
Phor Indicator, are you sure you're not Seth Cohen off "OC"?

You write exactly like he talks ;) Seth is also very hot

As for your insight up there, you're absolutely 100% dead straight, hit the arrow on the head or whatever cliche I can murder...... Correct.

"Interplay" is the thing. Humour, sass, attitude (but not too much - no egotists need apply), coupled with a gentlemanly charm, and I will talk to, and at least give a chance to.... just about anyone. Regardless of looks.

I don't know if a charming, funny, witty but extremely ugly girl would have the same success with your average good looking guy.
 
That is so weird strawberry.... Every time I see that show, I am constantly thinking "Seth must be stealins his material from me." I think we just have the same kind of styles. Quick wit, humorous, self-deprecating, and.... well I dont know about the hot part. But I know exactly what you mean i think about it every time i see the show, i cant belive you said that
 
Ummm. it seems like this thread is beginning to sort of sputter out... I seem to be the only one responding save a few others - namely, black octagon, strawberry, escourceR, and occassionaly wizecrak.

is it over or what... I mean I could post many more insights, but honestly I am beginning to find it a little boring, because I initially started this thread to get other people's observations or insights so I could see if I was missing something. However, no one else has seem to contribute too much to that effect.... I think maybe 10-12 posts in the entire thread have actually been real feedback.

What are everyone's thoughts?
 
yeah i for one have had enough. i've got a universe to master so i think i'll say goodbye (unless things suddenly pick up). but it's been a good one.
 
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