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the official 2011-12 college football thread! part 1 ver. WHERE IS SMOTPOKER??

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Michigan fans are coming out of the woodwork here in Ohio!

I've even heard them proclaim "our first year, no-name coach is better than your first-year, no name coach!"

at least we can move forward to being "the best rivalry in all of sports" once again...
 
axl blaze said:
Michigan fans are coming out of the woodwork here in Ohio!

I've even heard them proclaim "our first year, no-name coach is better than your first-year, no name coach!"

at least we can move forward to being "the best rivalry in all of sports" once again...
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I honestly doubt it becomes a rivalry...
 
NeighborMike said:
I honestly doubt it becomes a rivalry...
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well you don't have to "doubt" it "becom[ing]" a rivalry... because it already IS a rivalry. perhaps you have only just started to get into college footbaw, but despite the past five years or so the Michigan/Ohio State rivalry was arguably one of the biggest and most grand (and constantly competing against the Yanks/Sox as the most heated). there is a reason this annual match-up is simply called "the Game," after all...

in your defense, the rivalry has been diluted in the past half-decade due to the impotence of Michigan. however, I'm a little confused as to your statement that it won't become a rivalry because it already is, if this makes sense

however, I hope that you're right. as a born Ohioan it never gets old to beat up on Michigan. who cares if the rivalry ain't what it used to be ;)
 
axl blaze said:
well you don't have to "doubt" it "becom[ing]" a rivalry... because it already IS a rivalry. perhaps you have only just started to get into college footbaw, but despite the past five years or so the Michigan/Ohio State rivalry was arguably one of the biggest and most grand (and constantly competing against the Yanks/Sox as the most heated). there is a reason this annual match-up is simply called "the Game," after all...

in your defense, the rivalry has been diluted in the past half-decade due to the impotence of Michigan. however, I'm a little confused as to your statement that it won't become a rivalry because it already is, if this makes sense

however, I hope that you're right. as a born Ohioan it never gets old to beat up on Michigan. who cares if the rivalry ain't what it used to be ;)
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this is what i was getting at, im well aware its a rivalry, anyone who moderately watched sports should know that
BUT, like you said michigan hasnt been competitive in a while, and ohio losings its star players and coach still probably wont be enough to bring ohio down to that level
 
oh kewl, I was a little confused perhaps

let me just say - I hope you're right! I do think that now Michigan and Ohio State are going to be competitive for a couple years due to Jim Tressel falling on his sword, and I do think Brady Hoke was the perfect candidate for the Michigan h/c vacancy. only time will tell...
 
axl blaze said:
oh kewl, I was a little confused perhaps

let me just say - I hope you're right! I do think that now Michigan and Ohio State are going to be competitive for a couple years due to Jim Tressel falling on his sword, and I do think Brady Hoke was the perfect candidate for the Michigan h/c vacancy. only time will tell...
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I think even after all of this Ohio will continue to do well because people still want to play there.

Rich Rod screwed michigans recruiting up for years ago come
 
I was going to take Georgia as a strong pick for the SEC East but I forgot they lost Kris Durham in addition to A.J. Green. CB turned WR Malcolm Mitchell may step up and have a good year, especially given the quality passes he will be getting. I really don't see South Carolina as being the strongest team, so I'm going with Georgia, just not with as much confidence. I'm looking forward to the Boise State game!

In the West, of course Bama is looking pretty loaded. Arkansas looks pretty dangerous as well though, and of course the rest of the conference is unrelenting as always.

Alabama vs Georgia, my SEC championship picks.
 
I like LSU in the West, and not just because kenickie says I have to. Their recent recruiting is due to mature this year, and IIRC, they have a relatively soft schedule.

As for the East I think its truly wide open. I'm short on mark richt, so I am short on my dawgs' chances, though they do truly play their best when expectations are at their lowest. I'm honestly looking to tennessee to make a good showing this year, at least as strong as "people" expect from sakarelina this coming season.

Tenn plays LSU in atlanta, LSU thumps them and goes on to the NC.
 
Pander Bear said:
I like LSU in the West, and not just because kenickie says I have to. Their recent recruiting is due to mature this year, and IIRC, they have a relatively soft schedule.

As for the East I think its truly wide open. I'm short on mark richt, so I am short on my dawgs' chances, though they do truly play their best when expectations are at their lowest. I'm honestly looking to tennessee to make a good showing this year, at least as strong as "people" expect from sakarelina this coming season.

Tenn plays LSU in atlanta, LSU thumps them and goes on to the NC.
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LSU with the national championship if there quarter backing situation is good
I dont care Jordan Jefferson thrashed A&M in that bowl game. All i think about is the same were he couldnt muster 100 years throwing and ran more options then his Backs actually ran the ball

There are 2 far superior QBs behind him RIGHT now as far as im concerned. Im really interested to see how this team performs
 
it's always fun to prognosticate the SEC. I'd like to play...

I'll take South Carolina as the clear favorite for the SEC East. this year and last year, I feel like that sub-division has been wide open. I feel like most of these SEC East teams are rebuilding, and are once again a year or two from a solid showing (UGA, Tenn). but this is where the Gamecocks have an advantage, they are the most ready to win now

in the SEC West, I do think it's a toss-up between favorite-by-a-slim-margin Bama and LSU. it really could go either way. as said before, I'm losing faith in LSU's quarterbacking capabilities. and it's always difficult to pass up on Saban

LSU/Bama VS USC east

LSU/Bama wins again
 
I have no idea who will win the ACC this year. The Noles appear to be up and coming, but I think Jimbo isn't their guy (he will be FSU's Randy Shannon or Ron Zook) and they are way overrated, just as my Canes were last year. VT is going to suck big time. They lost everything. Clemson is Clemson, top class talent that never performs.

I would love to give it to my Canes, but I think they go 8-4 this season, keeping them one game out of ACC title contention. I can't think of one single good team in the entire conference, and that is sad. I still think it has the potential to one day be the second best conference in CFB, but that is a long way coming. After this season, The Canes probably dominate, until FSU comes along, and once that happens, and we finally have real contenders who can actually compete with SEC teams in title games (as schools from the Big 12, Big 10, and Pac-12 (exception USC, but they will be down for a while) simply can't. No place has talent like the South East US, which is the entire basis of my madman prediction that CFB will eventually turn into an ACC v. SEC war one of these years, once FSU and Miami get out of there respective funks, and Clemson finally hires a competent coach for all that talent.
 
I don't see how all of the teams you listed can have a bad year! Out of VT, FSU, Miami, Clemson, one pretty much has to do well. I'd give it to FSU as it's looking right now.
 
axl blaze said:
,,, the Michigan/Ohio State rivalry was arguably one of the biggest and most grand (and constantly competing against the Yanks/Sox as the most heated).
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You know I love to dis tOSU, and don't miss a shot at MICH when it presents itself, but I have to state that growing up since the 70's, the MICH-tOSU matchup isn't all that. Maybe before then, but not since. In the 70's and 80's it was Oklahoma - Nebraska, in the 80's there was Pitt-PSU and FSU-MIA (perhaps moreso in the 90's). Always hyped and nationally viewed games, top ranked teams. That's what makes a rivalry 'big'. Now, I've been around enough to know why they call Ohio the cradle of football, especially when you see all these winning coaches with ties back to the area. And I recognize how much MICH-tOSU is in the record books as seeming important. But not to break your heart, outside of those two states...nobody really has cared in my lifetime that I'm aware of, unless they were from or in those states. Little10+2 (who the fuck dreamed up a B1G moniker? That sucks!), it's had some games that mattered, and drew attention (like the #1-#2 matchup right before tOSU lost in the NC to UF), but that's up there with NW making a noise and people thinking they arrived...then faded again. I recognize and appreciate the history of Ohio football (especially coaching), and the rivalry between the two schools, but for the rest of the football world, it honestly hasn't mattered all that much. It's hard for someone on the inside to grasp that perspective (same as I couldn't fathom people not caring about FSU-UF, or FSU-MIA for awhile...though these days, nobody cares, again!), but outside that bubble, it ain't all that.

... there is a reason this annual match-up is simply called "the Game," by the fans of those schools after all...
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fixed it for you.
 
well I'm not going to argue this case for you as Michigan VS Ohio State being among the best rivalries in sports, as we both seem to have made up our minds. let me just say that while Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes were having their epic battles in the 70s, Doug Dickey's Florida Gators in that same decade could barely get past a .500 record (even going 0-10 in 1976 - ouch), and even when Florida did, they would get beaten and beaten bad in their bowl games (even losing to Miami... of Ohio). I know things are much different right now, but let's just say that both Ohio State and (ugh) Michigan were storied football programs while one could say Florida wasn't much of anything until the 80s...

however, this is all in the past - far too long for the average college football shmuck to even begin to understand. you say who considers this the best rivalry? well, in it's (multiple) glory years and decades, the media does and did. to see ESPiN perpetuate this as the best rivalry in sports means ten fold, only because of their inherent East Coast bias. let me just say this, it's a damn shame Florida won't play Miami every year like they once did - what's up with that?

let's try to get back to the modern era with my next rant. let me segue-way with a former Florida Defensive Coordinator and Head Coach, Ron Zook. how does this man still have his coaching job at Illinois? he actually still does a good job with getting some solid NFL-ready recruits (Rashard Mendenhall has been my obvious favorite as of late), but is this guy ever going to get fired from college football or what? the Zooker sucks! although for some reason I wouldn't be surprised in him staying a Fighting Illini for four more years, even (for some reason)


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look at him... he looks like a Poor Man's Pete Carroll



and let me segue-way this back into the Gators by... umm.... well Charlie Weis (former FL OC), like Ron Zook is no stranger to the hot seat. if the University of Florida has two sub-par seasons in a row, then the only comfort their disheveled fans will have is in the arms of first year coach - Charlie Weis


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hot damn! that's a lot of a comfort. one could say a man like that is built for comfort
 
3,4— if USC gets a foothold in the SEC east as a school to make your name in, and starts winning recruiting battles with UGA and clemson, it'll be all over for clemson for another ten years. I'd give USC less than a 50/50 shot of pulling that off tho.

I like VT's chances as always. They know how to win, sometimes it looks like the U and FSU have forgotten.
 
Pander Bear said:
3,4— if USC gets a foothold in the SEC east as a school to make your name in, and starts winning recruiting battles with UGA and clemson, it'll be all over for clemson for another ten years. I'd give USC less than a 50/50 shot of pulling that off tho.

I like VT's chances as always. They know how to win, sometimes it looks like the U and FSU have forgotten.
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The South East has enough talent to fill all of it's schools. And yes, both Miami and FSU have forgotten how to win. I had some retrospective loling at myself for my high expectations last season (after we went a whopping 9-4, woopdeedoo!) and I'm laughing at Nole fans who think they are back because of a 10-4 season. FSU is in for major disappointment, and Miami is rebuilding.

VT is VT. They are a perennial 9-3/10-2 team that is at it's best when Miami is down. The only reason they exist is to beat Miami, similar in a sense to the USC/UCLA matchup. They beat down on us while we are down, but they don't get the same kind of consistent talent that a Miami, Florida State, Clemson, Florida, USCe, Georgia, Tenn, Bama, and LSU are capable of getting. They are consistently good, but the expectation for Beamer is to compete in the ACC, while the expectation for a guy who coaches for the above mentioned schools is to compete for a NC. And it is relatively realistic. If they couldn't do it when they had Mike Vick, it will never happen, because there will never be another talent like Mike Vick again, especially at VT. A guy like that will want to play for a real powerhouse, and VT is not one. They are more of that team that you know you can lose to as a major program, but feel really, really embarrassed when you do lose to them. Trust me, I've watched my Canes lose to them plenty (never when we were any good though =D ).

In most years I would say they win the ACC when it is down, but they lost a fuckload on defense and their entire offensive backfield, which was one of the best they had in years.
 
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