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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

Hospitalizations in Canada are increasing at their fastest rate since the pandemic began, doubling in the past five days.

The situation in the United States is similar.

Similar picture in the UK and Australia, though in the UK at least far below the curves of previous waves:

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Given the apparent infectiousness of Omicron, it's also not surprising that some are claiming that the rate of hospitalizations isn't a fair reflection of the current situation, and that almost 80% now in hospital for 'Covid' have actually contracted Covid while in hospital for other conditions and are not there because of Covid itself:

Just one-fifth of new Covid hospital patients are true cases​

Treat data with caution, say experts, as situation in hospitals during omicron wave is different to ‘horrific scenes’ of a year ago

 
Looking at the $600,000 settlement tweet (probably not true) however, if the population was allowed to sue the makers of these vaccines like we can, food producers, etc. The vaccine hesitancy would drop to 5%.
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would it, though?

you can't sue pharma companies for any side effects from any drugs or previous vaccines you've ever taken in your life

what's different now? what's so different about this vaccine?
 
That shortness of breath might be a worrying symptom, the NHS website says it might be a symptom of myocarditis due to the vaccine, and that most cases resolve themselves without medical help.
I'd stay away from any type of stimulant if I were you? Unless you can talk to a doctor and he says a few lines are ok since you're going to be straight as an arrow from the 4th.:ROFLMAO:
I actually went to the ER on BoxingDay, a few days after my booster shot because I had shortness of breath, tachycardia, as well as my fingers and toes tingling and going blueish. I thought it was sensible to go seeing as I’d had the booster shot. I’m The week previously I’d been in the gym 3 times doing hi intensity circuit class no problem so I thought my general fitness was ok even if I was overweight and had blood pressure tending to the high side. That day I’d tried to go for a long trek in very hot sun with my dog and really struggled. However things were complicated by quite a lot of acid for breakfast in anticipation of the trek.

When I said I had chest pains etc I got triaged immediately. They listened to my chest, breathing and heart and gave me an ECG and did a few other things and said everything sounded good but they needed someone to sign off on the ECG because they had a difficulty getting a clear reading. Not looking abnormal, just fewer than desired measurements. Anyway, I then sat in the waiting room for 4 hours patiently waiting for permission to go home but decided to check myself out at 2 AM when there was no sign of anything happening and dozens of cases piling up. I took a gamble that if I was in imminent danger of cardiac arrest or stroke or something else very nasty somebody would have said something by then. But I’m following up with my regular doctor and probably going to get checked out by a cardiologist - both have no queues and practices that run like clockwork.
 
Given the apparent infectiousness of Omicron, it's also not surprising that some are claiming that the rate of hospitalizations isn't a fair reflection of the current situation, and that almost 80% now in hospital for 'Covid' have actually contracted Covid while in hospital for other conditions and are not there because of Covid itself:
If this turns out to be the case it will be reflected in the age-adjusted hospitalization data. Taking Quebec, for example, which publishes this data, a vaccinated individual still has 1/10th the likelihood of being hospitalized for COVID-19 as an unvaccinated individual (during the past month). If omicron takes over completely and becomes incidental to hospitalization instead of a contributing cause of it, the ratio should approach unity and overall hospitalizations (COVID or non-COVID) should drop to pre-COVID levels. But that is certainly not the case at the moment. In fact, Quebec is currently locking down again because hospitals are near or over capacity. The problem is that even if omicron is, say, 1/3 as likely to result in hospitalization as delta, as one recent analysis suggests, the current daily case count (which may not even be the peak) in Quebec was 20 times as high as the delta peak. And that's an under count, since people are being told to stay home and not get tested because the testing infrastructure is completely overwhelmed. Simple arithmetic suggests that an omicron variant 1/3 as likely to lead to hospitalization as delta should lead to approximately 6.7 times as many hospitalizations, all else being equal, and assuming that today is actually the peak... which it almost certainly isn't, given the current slope of the chart.
 
Antivaxxers are the ones spreading all of the fear, yet keep saying the government is trying to scare people into getting vaxxed.. when all they are doing is posting very real statistics.

I am fairly certain that threatening to have people fired and even stripped of their right to employment insurance, which, I should remind you, we fund ourselves, does qualify as scaring people.

At the very least, it fits the definition of threatening them.

Playing into the hands of what? What's their endgame? To get everyone vaccinated? I totally agree with that 👍

You don't believe people should have the right to refuse medical treatment?

Is this a new perspective or did you also feel that way before COVID?

We're the least afraid people in this situation. Unafraid of a vaccine, unafraid of covid after vaccine, unafraid of some grand conspiracy theory.

So you imagine that someone who refuses to be vaccinated is fearful, but fully vaccinated people who tolerate being placed under martial law are... what, happy about it?
 

Lol

This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. Covid misinformation nah we’re entirely fucking informed. From the start my mentality was I’m gonna catch it so why even run from it or try to prevent it. I never wear masks and avoid where there required. It still took till I was in a sober house with 20 dudes in February 2021 to catch it.

We’re not misinformed we’re just not afraid and sheep. We dont give a fuck and we aren’t afraid of covid.

I willingly accepted I was gonna catch it. You can’t stop an invisible virus unless you hide in your moms basement you’re gonna catch it. And if you don’t you’re immune. My girlfriend is immune I had covid and kissed her and had sex with her with it and she never got it. They say type O blood is immune to it, so a portion of the population can’t even fucking catch it.

I’m so tired of seeing old people outside walking down the street in masks. Usually when I see an old person not wearing a mask in public I thank them for not being a giant pussy.
 
I am fairly certain that threatening to have people fired and even stripped of their right to employment insurance, which, I should remind you, we fund ourselves, does qualify as scaring people.

At the very least, it fits the definition of threatening them.
look I'm not going to ignore the fact that general vaccine mandates are dangerously close to... medical fascism? if you want to call it that

but no.... people in the public safety and public service have ALWAYS been asked to protect the public. That's the point right?

why the fuck would I want a nurse who doesn't believe in vaccine science?

You don't believe people should have the right to refuse medical treatment?
If they serve in the goal of public health/safety? No... not really.

Do you have kids? if you do, they need about 6 vaccines to attend any public school in the US.

why don't you complain about that?

So you imagine that someone who refuses to be vaccinated is fearful
lol.. YES

yes I do, like some kid who was too scared to take LSD because his parents told him it was poison
but fully vaccinated people who tolerate being placed under martial law are... what, happy about it?
"tolerate being placed und martial law" ... colorful way to say people are asked to wear a tiny paper mask......

I'm not happy about it... but it surely doesn't bother me or make me think there is some grand conspiracy to start stripping me away from my rights

you know whats A LOT more important than fucking mask mandates in PRIVATE businesses?? the ultra wealthy which are about to ruin our planet. Let's focus on THAT instead of fucking dumb covid shit which is honestly old by now. This has been Fox News' narrative for awhile now. Did you know 3 people own more wealth than the bottom half of 70% of americans combined? That should make you way more furious than any little mask or vaccine.

the only people who are still scared of covid are the unvaxxed... THATS A FACT, you can say it "Scares us into submission" all you want, but in reality, we all willingly took it rofl

where my vaxx people? you scared? rofl

the only people scared of covid is you... if you aren't scared of covid you're scared the government is trying to... take away your rights?

meanwhile the world is moving on
 
Covid misinformation nah we’re entirely fucking informed.
lol really?

I’m so tired of seeing old people outside walking down the street in masks.
why do you hate old people? :/ do you want them to get sick? :'(

you know wearing masks is common everyday practice in many densely populated countries?... especially for older people who have weaker immune systems. Why would they NOT wear a mask, bro??

you've obviously never stepped inside a nursing home in your life... tell me, what's wrong with an old person wearing a mask????

why do you hate old people :mad:



... SO TO OPIATEKILLER"S PARENTS, I AM THE RECOKING, I AM GOD HIMSELF AND I WILL TEACH HIM MORE, MORE THAN BURNING OLD PEOPLE AT THE STAKE BECAUSE HE BELIEVED MASKS WERE SOMEHOW GOVERNMENT OBEDIENCE.. I WANT TO SPIT IN THE FACE OF THIS DEMOCRACY OF HYPOCRISY, FUCK YOU TRUMP, FUCK YOU BIDEN, I SPIT LIQUOR IN YOUR FACE, FUCK YOU SO MANY TIMES THIS UNITED STATES OF EMBARASSMENT MIGHT START CENSORING ME LIKE SOME COVID VACCINE TRUTHIST AKA EXTREMIST. I CAN KEEPE GOING FOREVER YOU MOTHERFUCKERS IAM THE BEHST
 
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They say type O blood is immune to it.
I forgot about that. I guess type O negative has even better protection than O positive blood type. I'm O but can't remember if negative or positive. Here's a paper I found that says O types if infected also have lower chance of severe illness and mortality.
 
but no.... people in the public safety and public service have ALWAYS been asked to protect the public. That's the point right?

If it were about protecting the public then they wouldn't have fired healthcare workers who refused to be vaccinated, and then OK'd vaccinated but tested-positive healthcare workers to keep working to make up the shortfall. Especially given that all the published statistics everywhere reinforce the theory that vaccines do not stop the spread.

Do you have kids? if you do, they need about 6 vaccines to attend any public school in the US.

why don't you complain about that?

Because they have nothing to do with shutting down society right now. I don't care about vaccinations either way, I just take offense at being told I need to get jabbed or I can't sit at a restaurant, and when they start talking about kicking me out of my job over this then... well, that just guarantees I won't want to do as I'm told.

lol.. YES

yes I do

I'm sorry you have been lead to believe that.

"tolerate being placed und martial law" ... colorful way to say people are asked to wear a tiny paper mask......


Curfew and no private gatherings = asked to wear a tiny paper mask?

Two years in and they're still pulling this, it's simply unacceptable. There's no public health justification for it anymore, it's just tyranny.
 
lol really?


why do you hate old people? :/ do you want them to get sick? :'(

you know wearing masks is common everyday practice in many densely populated countries?... especially for older people who have weaker immune systems. Why would they NOT wear a mask, bro??

you've obviously never stepped inside a nursing home in your life... tell me, what's wrong with an old person wearing a mask????

why do you hate old people :mad:



... SO TO OPIATEKILLER"S PARENTS, I AM THE RECOKING, I AM GOD HIMSELF AND I WILL TEACH HIM MORE, MORE THAN BURNING OLD PEOPLE AT THE STAKE BECAUSE HE BELIEVED MASKS WERE SOMEHOW GOVERNMENT OBEDIENCE.. I WANT TO SPIT IN THE FACE OF THIS DEMOCRACY OF HYPOCRISY, FUCK YOU TRUMP, FUCK YOU BIDEN, I SPIT LIQUOR IN YOUR FACE, FUCK YOU SO MANY TIMES THIS UNITED STATES OF EMBARASSMENT MIGHT START CENSORING ME LIKE SOME COVID VACCINE TRUTHIST AKA EXTREMIST. I CAN KEEPE GOING FOREVER YOU MOTHERFUCKERS IAM THE BEHST

I don’t hate old people bro. YOURE WALKING OUTSIDE NOT WITHIN 6 feet of ANYBODY. You’re not GONNA CATCH COVID WALKING DOWN AN EMPTY STREET.

Same with people driving and same with people wearing 2 masks.

Honestly they deserve to die the world is better off without these fucking morons
 
I forgot about that. I guess type O negative has even better protection than O positive blood type. I'm O but can't remember if negative or positive. Here's a paper I found that says O types if infected also have lower chance of severe illness and mortality.

Exactly even more reason to never take the vaccine you’re probably immune
 
If it were about protecting the public then they wouldn't have fired healthcare workers who refused to be vaccinated
ummm... lol yes they would, made tons of sense to me

fire them all

if you don't believe in popular modern medical science I don't want you taking care of my health :p

Curfew and no private gatherings = asked to wear a tiny paper mask?
no private gatherings? that's never been a rule... just exemplifies how this is all magnified in your mind

when has anyone said NO PRIVATE GATHERINGS... what the hell does that even mean? Limiting gatherings to 5-10 peoples is completely reasonable during a pandemic ;)


honestly I'm actually glad I never bought into the conspiracies, I'm an extremely anxious person, this would probably devastate me... but, all the covid measures have seemed nothing but normal and reasonable to me

if I can't go to a house party one night, without wearing a mask on my face.... well, i don't start freaking out like it was suddenly nazi germany... I'm not that dramatic

fully vaxxed, covid free and doing absolutely great, I don't stress out about any of this like you guys apparently do
 
I don’t hate old people bro. YOURE WALKING OUTSIDE NOT WITHIN 6 feet of ANYBODY. You’re not GONNA CATCH COVID WALKING DOWN AN EMPTY STREET.
not necessarily with a mask on ;) that's what they are for

masks work, why would they tell everyone to wear a mask if it didn't do anything? what's the point? rofl? just piss people off??? it obviously WORKS to some extent

Honestly they deserve to die the world is better off without these fucking morons

sometimes I think the same about covid deniers, but, it's not a healthy thought man

I don't want you to die

I don't want anyone to die...

but, until people stop calling me some "brainwashed sheep" for getting a damn vaccine... well, I'll just continue to point out the ridiculous beliefs you have

its not a fight tho

you guys seem to get mad, after when you make extreme claims... someone provides ANY bit of evidence or opinion against you and you freak out and start insulting, dismissing trying to discredit any other opinion

you discredit people simply because they are vaccinated... this isn't a cult man, we are just like you

I don't base my entire political opinion on some narrative... (and don't dare tell me you don't.....)
 
I don’t hate old people bro. YOURE WALKING OUTSIDE NOT WITHIN 6 feet of ANYBODY. You’re not GONNA CATCH COVID WALKING DOWN AN EMPTY STREET.

Same with people driving and same with people wearing 2 masks.

Honestly they deserve to die the world is better off without these fucking morons

You don't think that's a little extreme? People who wear masks when they're outside, driving, and people wearing two masks deserve to die? That's fucked up. They're just scared. I think it's silly, too, but why does it make you so mad you wish they'd die? It doesn't even affect you if they decide to be more careful than they need to be. I think you might think about this stuff entirely too much.
 
If this turns out to be the case it will be reflected in the age-adjusted hospitalization data. Taking Quebec, for example, which publishes this data, a vaccinated individual still has 1/10th the likelihood of being hospitalized for COVID-19 as an unvaccinated individual (during the past month). If omicron takes over completely and becomes incidental to hospitalization instead of a contributing cause of it, the ratio should approach unity and overall hospitalizations (COVID or non-COVID) should drop to pre-COVID levels. But that is certainly not the case at the moment. In fact, Quebec is currently locking down again because hospitals are near or over capacity. The problem is that even if omicron is, say, 1/3 as likely to result in hospitalization as delta, as one recent analysis suggests, the current daily case count (which may not even be the peak) in Quebec was 20 times as high as the delta peak. And that's an under count, since people are being told to stay home and not get tested because the testing infrastructure is completely overwhelmed. Simple arithmetic suggests that an omicron variant 1/3 as likely to lead to hospitalization as delta should lead to approximately 6.7 times as many hospitalizations, all else being equal, and assuming that today is actually the peak... which it almost certainly isn't, given the current slope of the chart.

The issue now is the speed of spread, even a bad cold will hospitalize a few people, sometimes it is just one of many issues and it doesn't really matter how weak this flu is until we all reach some level of herd immunity our health care systems are about to be wildly overrun.

I expect my natural immunity will be nearly as useless as the vaccines but there is zero risk in natural immunity from having early variant plain Covid-19. I don't expect to need hospitalization as I never do unless I am broken and blood is spurting out. We have done excellent on self isolation since I can't work yet due to restriction but now facing an eviction from a landlord who sees dollar-$$$-bills we get to be forced into social mixing again right at omicron peak.
 
YOURE WALKING OUTSIDE NOT WITHIN 6 feet of ANYBODY. You’re not GONNA CATCH COVID WALKING DOWN AN EMPTY STREET.

Same with people driving and same with people wearing 2 masks.

you’re advocating vocally for your own freedom and right to not take a vaccine.

seems you don’t support their freedom and right to just walk down down the street wearing a mask. why not?

it doesn’t harm or impact you in any way but, simply because they’ve made a different choice…

Honestly they deserve to die

for just wearing a mask? jfc dude, that is just horrible.

alasdair
 


relevant

I think everyone needs to just calm down, realize how fucked up the world is, and stop focusing so much on covid.

I can name 100 different world issues which are probably more important at this point

nobody really gives a shit about wearing masks anymore
 
you’re advocating vocally for your own freedom and right to not take a vaccine.

seems you don’t support their freedom and right to just walk down down the street wearing a mask. why not?

it doesn’t harm or impact you in any way but, simply because they’ve made a different choice…



for just wearing a mask? jfc dude, that is just horrible.

alasdair

Don’t you get it? This is never going away. They are never going to stop instilling fear in people’s minds. They have a taste of the power. They’re never gonna stop.

Everything is going exactly to plan for them. Everyone is in a fear stilled blindness following every instruction they give.

This is just giving them ammo to propel this even further. And if I’m right this isn’t even the real virus.

They’re gonna drop a new strain or even worse a much worse virus on the world and it’s gonna actually kill people. Then what the fuck are we gonna do?

Even if it’s just China behind this if you don’t think the CCP will drop a super virus to kill off half the world you’re wrong. They are fucking sadistic fucks.
 
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