The Mother Load/opiate question

[Streetnoodle]

Hello Bluelight, this is my first post so please excuse any errors in policy/standards.

My friend recently started a new job, part of this new job involves cleaning out the houses of the recently deceased, as in throwing away all their possessions in the event of no written will. Sounds like a big waste right? That's what my friend figured, so he has been helping himself to the medicine cabinets of these random dead people, most of them elderly and heavily medicated, its sounds evil but its more like a fringe benefit of the job he supposes...

At one home my friend found the mother load: bottles on bottles of Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Vicodin, Promethazine, Percocet, Hydromorphone, and more medications he is unfamiliar with. Thing is most of the medications are years old, most 5-7 years old, and my friend is having trouble getting real high off anything. As far as my friend knows most prescriptions really don't "go bad," but a lot of the opiates are paired with apap or ibuprofen. My friend is wondering if these might have any effect on the opiates as they age?

My friend has moderate experience with pills, mostly benzos and opiates, and is surprised by how little he is getting out of relatively high doses. To recount the past two days: my friend found the mother load and after collecting the treasure proceeded to take 2x 5/500 hydrocodone pills, an hour later he took another 5/500, another hour later he took 25mg promethazine and another 5/500 in the hope the promethazine would potentiate the now 20mg hydrocodone. At this point my friend was concerned about the amount of apap and stopped to chug some water and smoke a cig. He got very little effect from this combo but had some noticeable sedation. An hour after this, still feeling very little, my friend moved to the Hydromorphone in the belief that it might be a synergistic route without more apap, so my friend sniffed 3x 2mg hydromorphone pills. At this point my friend was feeling a little hot, a little itchy, and a little good. His pupils were constricted, but he didnt feel any intense euphoria, so a couple hours later he sniffed another 3x 2mgs. He couldnt fall asleep which surprised him, but was having intense day dreams all night only distinguishable from real dreams because he would snap in and out of lucidity.

So my friend didn't sleep much and had a light headache in the morning, still a bit disappointed in the return from this mother load he decided to do a hydrocodone cold water extraction. This was my friends first time doing a cwe but it seemed pretty simple. He dissolved 7x 5/500s let them sit in the freezer a little, strained, and mixed with OJ for a nice breakfast beverage. He drank the mixture over an hour figuring about 35mgs Hydrocodone would feel pretty good. Again it did very little for my friend. I suppose I should mention he is about 190 pounds and mostly unfamiliar with doses. Two hours after, a little frustrated that the mother load might be a dud, my friend swallowed 1x 25mg Hydroxyzine 4x 5/325 Oxycodone pills. He was expecting to be quite high with that combination, and went to mow the lawn while smoking a cig. Its worth noting he ate lunch in between the hydrocodone/oxycodone doses but the overall result was feeling little more than relaxed.

So apologies for the long story, but its time to try again and my friend is wondering what he did wrong and what the best combinations would be. More than anything does my friend just happen to be naturally tolerant? If so what dosages of what are reccommended? And with that how much apap is safe to ingest in one sitting? In a day? And with that how frequently is it safe to redose which medications? Thanks for reading and any advice it would be much appreciated.

 

[aq.]

homless threads -> basic drug discussion

 

[T. Calderone]

I'm guessing your tolerance might be raised because it's not like you've never done these drugs before. Another thing to consider is they were sort of old and ideally they retain their potency in a dark, cool, dry environment. But you have no idea what conditions the pills were kept in. When my mother was alive, she frequently would put other tablets in her prescription bottles too.

My concern is the possibility of getting caught taking a decedent's prescription. Doesn't this company have a protocol in place for disposing of medications? If not, they should. When I worked at an ALF, every month we had an officer come in, document, count and dispose of them. Have you thought about what would happen if you get pulled over with schedule II narcotics that aren't yours? Your "motherload" could get you prison time not to mention lose your job. Are a few pills worth it?

 

[Larc]

IMO, old pills should be treated like heroin. Every new batch should be smoked before it is ived to test the quality.

Most of those pills have lost potency, however Im sure quite a few havent. Just because it took 10 old hydrosmto get high with one bottle, doesnt mean the nest bottle will have lost potency.

Be careful