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The most spiritual psychedelic?

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned ibogaine yet. The trip reports are absolutely nuts.
 
Don't waste your time on salvia, knarliest shit, I tried it, way, way, too freakin crazy ass shit for anyone...
 
2c-goinsane said:
hello ismene, psilohuasca is what i thank its called but i was curious have you got to try this out at all? if so i would love to hear about what you thought about it? from what i have gathered your pretty knowledgble so i would like to get your take on it if youve had some experiences with psilohuasca
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The only thing I've really heard about this combo is when Terrence McKenna combined mushrooms with Ayuhuasca. So DMT, Mushrooms and MAOI.
Yeah apparently it's not a good idea. Apparently watched his memories being eaten, and that doesn't sound like my idea of fun personally.

As for me personally, nothing has ever had such a spiritual presence like DMT. Nothing feels like contact with the other realm quite like DMT, but again that's just me.
 
In order, most spiritual first.

Psilocybe Mushrooms
LSD
Marijuana
DMT
4-Aco-DMT
4-HO-MiPT
2C-E

Almost everything else seems more recreational. Though, I have had recreational experiences on all of the above. Only on the mushrooms and LSD have I truely had a "talking to God" experience. The mushrooms being my one and only +4 experience. Talk about conversations with the Godhead, WOW!! So many realizations about this world while visiting another. More like the center of all worlds, not just another.
 
Ive been closest to "god" on mxe... deep deep in the hole... journeyed thru both the underworld and the outermost reaches of the galaxy with a complete understanding of it all... and no fear because i already "knew i died" and thought "this is what happens"...

Never talked to an entity... it was more like my energy being recycled back into the universe :)
 
Chemically Insane said:
Ive been closest to "god" on mxe... deep deep in the hole... journeyed thru both the underworld and the outermost reaches of the galaxy with a complete understanding of it all... and no fear because i already "knew i died" and thought "this is what happens"...

Never talked to an entity... it was more like my energy being recycled back into the universe :)
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What you experienced precisely describes my MXE-hole, which was the second and last. I probably took way too much as I didn't even get time to prepare myself for the ghost ride. It was quite wonderful, really, but I wouldn't want to imagine getting stuck in one.
 
Nice wordsmanship Bottle in Bottle ;) Message in a bottle!
BottleInABottle said:
ghost ride.
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BottleInABottle said:
imagine getting stuck in one.
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knew i died
image
in
one
under
stand in
g o...
f-it-all
alone
this is what happens
"god"???
underworld
no fear???
living - dead
dead - living :|
across
a
cross
X
outer
most
reaches
across
a
cross
chemically
insane
2c
go
insane
X-X
-X-

;)
 
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Unfortunately it would lose all healing powers of integration through deconstruction-construction, if worded in paragraph form. I won't post any more like that, though. One from the heart - to the bottle. :)
 
x-sun-x-moon-x said:
Unfortunately it would lose all healing powers of integration through deconstruction-construction, if worded in paragraph form. I won't post any more like that, though. One from the heart - to the bottle. :)
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wow man you just blew my mind, that was sooo deep, like profound.

What is your secret?
 
That's a pretty difficult question to answer because it completely depends on every person. Every one is different... some people find LSD to be the most profound spiritually, other people find MDMA to be more spiritual, etc. Psychedelics have brought me profound healing... they're a very valuable tool. If you don't have much experience with psychedelics, I would start by eating some mushrooms... see how that goes, then maybe try LSD, peyote, etc? Find out what's best for yourself.

Be careful though, don't be too hasty, especially if you have already existing mental health problems, there's a chance those problems could be made worse. Psychedelics aren't for everybody... but if you feel strong and ready, I recommend it. I wanted to die before my first LSD trip... I had no hope for healing from past trauma... God(as I understood it back then), church, counselling, etc was useless for me. Experimenting with altered states of consciousness is what finally helped. To this day, that healing has stuck with me...

Good luck and feel free to PM me if you have any questions or anything. Psychedelics psychotherapy is one of my biggest interests and I've spent a lot of time researching and experiencing. :)
 
I have tried LOTS of tryps and phens, and I think beside from Mushrooms, I'd label 4HO-DET as the more spiritual on. I died, while on it. But I came back.

2C-T4 is not very spiritual, but does wonders for introspection.
 
i took lsd for the last time 5 months ago (because i can't find it) but i had a really bad, life-changing, soul-awakening trip. to this day i am still growing spiritually from that trip. i have not felt sadness since that trip and i thank the universe everyday for that trip.

i don't think there's been a day where i haven't thought about that trip.
 
For me, salvia ranks highest. I have never gotten a bad trip off it, and every trip takes a load off my soul. 5-meo-dmt and mushrooms are also up there.
 
This is such a hard question to answer. Almost impossible in all honesty. The point of spirituality is personal. There is no one wonder drug that just makes everything make sense. There are a million variables to take into account, like what kind of mood your in too what kind of setting you are surrounded by. I have found that any drug can be spiritual from psychedelics to disassociates. Hell I even have a friend who had a complete spiritual awakening on Ativan. I don't so much agree that the drug itself is spiritual but more that it is simply a tool, and if you try to use a wrench to screw a bolt it's not gonna work. But this wasn't your question so I might as well answer it.

For me personally I would have to say hands down the drug that has given me the highest ability for spiritual enlightenment has been Ketamine. Simply for the ability to forgo my physical vessel and focus purely on the mind. It allows me to ignore and forget about the physical world and its necessity upon my life and allows me to dive into my mind like a free diver with ability to hold his breathe for hours.
 
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