RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread

[skyHiGuy]

Male 50. 80kg experienced in RCs and most other available substances

Dose MPA 80mg (nasal \ vap)
Smells and looks like MDPV
Marquis turned yellow with purple tinge
Up in 20 mins Clean stim effect, little euphoria
feel focused and alert and horny
Mild teeth clenching.
plateau for 1-2 hours

It is very like mdpv in effect which is risky as found mdpv quite addictive
Nice to get something that feels pure and clean compared to other available stims like JGG (Whatever that is) and much much better than any of that nrg shite

 

[QuickFix]

Research Report

1000 - insuffulated 30mg 'MPA'

Clumpy white powder, not at all pleasant to sniff, causes some eye watering then a nasty drop but nothing to the levels of snorting 2C-B for instance.

half an hour later not feeling much so

1030 - insuffulated 50 mg 'MPA'

1100 - Pulse 96bpm - up from the 70bpm measuredf earlier

Start to feel 'quick'.. Like I've had several espresso coffee

1200 No much happening so sniff another 100mg line

1300 Find I'm feeling warm, I have all teh signs of taking amphetamines. I'm thinking quickly, taking quiclky and enjoying the sounds of loud hard trance music.

Pulse 104bpm, body temperature ok. No gurning, no jaw clenching. Just clear thought patterns. Some periphery 'pleasant feeling' in the limbs which I associate with amphetamines.

1500 - Pulse 100bpm, typing nicely through some documents I had been putting off, coming up with ideas I must write down in fact if it wasn't for the pleasant feelings I associate with speed I'd say I'd just enetered a manic phase of BiPolar. I'm Up and doing, Mr Fantastic, don't argue with me because I have a mind full of couter-argumments and I'll win I'll assure you.

Outwardly I have no pupil dillation or perhaps slight dillation in the right light.

I'd say this was a productivity drug. I doubt it's anything like meth-amphetamine or I'd have had sex multiple times by now surely.

It's a clean, honest stimulant which compels you to do things. I sorted I massive bundle of tangled cables that had live in a box with six months for instance. My flat is spotless. My cat's had more than the national sugested 30 minutes of activity and I've done a hell of a lot of work.

My creativity has spiked, I'm a web-developer and was working on some logic problems earlier which I whisked through like a champion.

1600 - another 100mg insuffulated

bpm 110, temperature stable, outwar appearance - well I don't look off my face but the face I'm firing my thoughts at people at a thousand mile per hour is probably a good indicator I've ATLEAST been taking something now I'm sure to most idiots you could pass it off as have had a lot of good coffee. But anybody who uses chems will recognise the signs easily. OR you'll be declared hypo-manic.

1630 body stimulation now increased, feeling bold, omnioptent and sexy. My urge is to to have a long sex session with a partner while exchanging opinions on matter of philiosophy, polics and ethics.

Outwardly still look pretty normal. But mentally I'm charged, I'm dangerous and I'm out to get you and your opinions; and preferably some sex.

As far as sex goes, no problem with errection, definitely up for it, could probably last forever. Orgasm could be problematic.

As live reports are not permitted I shall return and update this post later with anything else of substance.

 

[metalayer]

There are sites selling the sulphate as well as hydrochloride forms, anyone want to hazard a guess as to which would be a better buy?

 

[whizzyuk]

hey

Still not seen any results from IV... Are the people who tried it still alive?

Just interested....

 

[Mokroprd]

For all:

Right name for this stuff is "Thial".
I find it 2 years ago itś my child.

Somebody steal information from our company. Be carefull stuff is patented.

Utilization is for medicament (low blod presure)

Itś too dangerous for using because Thial is intermediate for next processing.

 

[Albion]

For all:

Right name for this stuff is "Thial".
I find it 2 years ago itś my child.

Somebody steal information from our company. Be carefull stuff is patented.

Utilization is for medicament (low blod presure)

Itś too dangerous for using because Thial is intermediate for next processing.

What exactly does this have to do with methiopropamine?

 

[Mokroprd]

IUPAC name is N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine

Working name is Thial and underground name is methiopramine.

This intermediat is dangerous like PMA overmuch increases blood presure. It can kill.

Our research is about make safe biological effect.

 

[ksynapsol]

question and introduction

sorry can somebody verify this post over mine? i didnt read it before i posted this . sry



first post here, so: hi folx.
Im a shamapharmtist with poor interests, so hopefully here I can establish an effective and happy relationship.

my questions:
It became clear that the form of a substance affects its effect . also the taste and the look depends on which salt it is, f.e. amphetamin-sulphat or methamphetamine-hcl..

Are there informations about the different salts of methiopropamine? i would like to know if there is a optical difference , respectively about cristall size and stuff.
Perhaps also the effect could be stronger or more weak due to lipophilicity ?

Does anyone know which form the mpa sold by the wellknown suppliers is?

Thanks in advantage,

ksynpsl.

 

[Vularin]

I've tried in the following mixes:
5-APB (200mg) + MPA (300mg) + MDAI (200mg) - I wont' bother with a full report but I will say I had no ill effects. Heart rate, BP and head all fine. Feeling: Fucking incredible. More detail if requested.

WOW, your bio-essay is the best i have ever seen! really awesome, should be the worldwide standard how you have written it , so im really interested in your 5-APB+MPA&MDAI combination experience.

V

 

[Allein]

Got a bit of this winging its way to me in the post.

The reports in this thread seem to vary quite a bit on dose and duration, can someone give their opinion on :-

Starting dose -Insufflated

Starting dose - Vaped

Duration - how long before sleep is possible

thanks

 

[ksynapsol]

Got a bit of this winging its way to me in the post.

The reports in this thread seem to vary quite a bit on dose and duration, can someone give their opinion on :-

Starting dose -Insufflated

Starting dose - Vaped

Duration - how long before sleep is possible

thanks

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insufflatted: 10-20 mg
duration: without tolerance (also crosstolerance with amphe/methamphe) : first wave: 1. -2.5. hour, afterglow: 2.5.-12.hour.

if you dont overdose, you can sleep even after 3 hours easiliy if you dont panic. if you do lots of it ( i mean 200-300mg) probably no sleep before 12-16h

 

[sighhill]

Is this available to the U.S. yet?

 

[naginnudej]

hey

Still not seen any results from IV... Are the people who tried it still alive?

Just interested....

Yea its's a bit underwhelming. Doses from 5-50mg attempted.

 

[stevein7]

It does remind me of 2 dpmp.

That is not good.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

MPA trip report - adverse reaction !!

Male - 40 Years old, 11 stone, fairly healthy, not taken any chemicals for 1 week before dose.

Never taken MPA before. Taken MDAI a few times with no problems. Experienced with speed &
mephedrone.


DAY 1
Rise 6.00 am
go to work
2 pm have lunch - pasta salad
get home 4.00 pm
dont bother eating anything
4.30 pm take 90 mg MPA insufflated & 150 mg MDAI bombed with a lager.
activity - watch TV & movies
subjective feelings for next 4 hours - feeling meerley ok - quite relaxed but alert, nice
hot a cold rushes, a little bit wired, have 2 glasses of red wine to calm down. Does the
trick excellently. Feel good now.
at 8.30 feel as if peak of the 'up' has passed.
Insufflate another 80 mg MPA.
Smoking cigarettes quite heavily.
11.00 pm neighbours go to bed
time passing quite nicely
1 am still feeling wide awake - bored with TV
browse internet
time really flies by - not feeling sleepy no point going to bed
3 am continue to browse internet
time really flies by - not feeling sleepy no point going to bed
4 am continue to browse internet
time really flies by - not feeling sleepy no point going to bed
5 am a bit concerned by the time but continue to browse internet
time flies by - not feeling sleepy no point going to bed
6 am - 8am same

DAY 2
8 am - the world around me wakes up - neighbour gets up after a good nights sleep etc
feeling rather shitty now - have been chain smoking last few hours. Feel tired, could probably sleep but decide to try to

stay awake until the evening to keep body clock synced to sleeping at night.
no appetite atall
remain at computer until 3 pm time passes quickly - feel physically tired but mentally OK, - still no appetite whatsoever - decide should force myself

to eat as not had anything for more than 24 hours.Have a bowl of soup.
About 30 mins later stomach protests violently. Run upstairs just intime. Extreme diarrhea time. . Feels like pints of my stomach contents came pouring out. Stomach gurgling and cramping for next few hours - try to drink liquids - only able to sip really. Decide to eat a 'pot noodle' as this is my usual day after food that sorts me out. Big mistake. Next 18 hours absolute misery. Entire contents of stomach is liqufied. Most extreme & long lasting diarrhea ever experienced in fact. Unable to drink fluids as causes gag reflex. Am by now so dehydrated that cannot even stand to wash myself without feeling that im going to black out. More than anything I do not want to black out. Collapse to hall floor but remain conscious. Gather some strenghth & manage to stagger few steps to bed. Was unable to wash myself properly. Ew. Sleep on and off, keep going to toilet. Inevitably wake up to 'break wind' momentarily forgetting my condition and the inevitable happens, Oh yes this is great....

DAY 3

Next morning feel absolutely awful. Stomach begins to settle. There seems to be nothing left inside my stomach now. Try to eat some dry bread. All day just eat about 2 slices of dry bread, unable to eat anything else. Am able to sip water. Add some salt, sugar & OJ to it.


Day 4

Gradual recovery begins.

Of course I cannot prove the MPA caused the extreme reaction of my guts. It could have been contaminated food/ drink or some bug picked up somewhere etc, but the nature of this epiosde was quite different to anything ive ever had before - and I strongly suspect the MPA was to blame.

Remaining MPA is flushed down the toilet.

A lovely experience i wanted to share with you all. Im new to this forum, i usually post on DF but there is nothing about MPA on there.

 

[knock]

Apologies if this has already been discussed - has anyone tried this in combination with MDMA, and how did it go? For a "rave"-style night out I am considering 150mg MDMA and 30mg MPA. Basically as an amphetamine substitute.

I am thinking of capping the MDMA and the MPA together and swallowing.

 

[Nodger]

Just my little fourpenneth! I ordered 2g of MPA a good six weeks ago now and still have plenty in supply! out of the vast majority of RC's on the market I have found it to be pleasant, manageble and well jolly good fun!. I tend to start out with about 75mg insuf before moving on to the old tin foil - I find MPA lends itself very well to being chased with, in my experience, having a general less heavy effect on the body if just purely insuf.

It has thus far combined well with alcohol so is great for social situations (coupled with the lack of outward effects - pupil dilation etc which helps not draw attention!) as well as evenings in with friends.

In summary a great stim for the older hedonist who (with a modicum of self control!) wishes to feel that something a little bit special whilst out and about with chums!

 

[rickolasnice]

got a bit of this winging its way to me in the post.

The reports in this thread seem to vary quite a bit on dose and duration, can someone give their opinion on :-

starting dose -insufflated 50 - 80mg

starting dose - vaped 20 - 40mg

duration - how long before sleep is possible i find it pretty hard to sleep on but if you leave it a good 4 - 6 hours and havn't done too much it should be ok..

thanks

answers in blue

mod note: red is reserved for mod usage

 

[erbaviva_girls]

I find that mpa is very very light, I thought that this rc was much stronger ...I was disappointed

 

[BoomBoxer]

Just to add something for harm reduction...

Sounds like the OP is getting into messing around with research chems before he's even done the "regular" drugs that are about. This seems like madness to me. The reason you can buy these research chems online is that no one knows what they are, how they work or what damage they're doing to your body. They are potentially more damaging than the illegal drugs, the only reason they are legal is that they are so new no ones got round to making them illegal yet!

Taking any drug is always potentially dangerous but at least with mdma, coke, speed , lsd or whatever you might want to take you can read up on what these things are, the risks of doing them and make an informed decision about whether you want to take the risk of trying them.

With research chems they could be doing ANYTHING, and you could be doing yourself massive damage by doing them. As far as I'm concerned the people who get into research chems are people who are bored of every type of drug out there and are committed to their drug taking so are willing to take the (potentially massive) risks of the research chems.

Do yourself a favour and go do a load of research on the more regular drugs and experiment with them. I really don't think there's any need to mess around with research chems if your new to drugs.

Or maybe people that don't want to risk a criminal record, in which case RC's are the only way. And don't forget that all the "regulars" were RC's in a sense once. Blame the government for this shit situation where people take unknown risks because they try and decide what we are and not allowed to take.

Personally i think that scales are not always the best way to go with certain drugs, unless active at silly mg doses (and even eperienced people have trouble with these at times so id stay well away from them for now) then just because x, y and z took 250mg does not mean thats the best amount for you.

Sometimes its better to just start with a tiny amount and then build it up over time and listen to what your body tells you.

And the most important of all imo read, read and read some more, you could get into a lot of trouble keep bumping an RC because nothings happening only to find it's a drug that takes x hours to come up. Before i even consider buying an RC i spend hours and hours researching.

How did you get on in the end anyways mate?