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RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread V2

how long do oral effects last compared to smoking?
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Takes about 15 minutes to work then the effects last 2-3 hours. I tend to re-dose every 2 hours.
 
intelligentmind said:
I wish I lived in the uk easier to buy go through this stuff like no tomorrow
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It's very nice living in the UK for this reason alone, something I take for granted.

I've tried MPA a few times now by itself, and accompanied with cannabinoids + weed. Final opinions? It's pretty good. I usually bomb 25/30mgs every few hours or so. Way better than ethylphenidate (lol).

It's pretty good with MDAI too. I haven't tried ETH with MDAI yet, but I'll be sure to make the comparison to MPA when I do.
 
foolsgold said:
sorry its late but what a waste of money mdai is at best its a mild anti depressant did the gram in 24 hours and just ended up feeling like shit till today all most suicidal because of it don't waste your money people :)
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Well, I had amazing experiences on 100-150mg MDAI. And many other people enjoy this one too, so it is definitely not a waste. I can't imagine consuming even half a g in such short time if it is pure. That could have been cut or some other chemical. Or you have a ridicolous tolerance (1g in 24h still is extreme, no wonder you felt depressed...).
But you can't just generalize it like that. A friend likes it more than MDMA, just for example ;)

Sorry for OT.
 
I had 40mg orally this morning now I feel like I'm gonna be sick. This has never happened before. Hmm.

** I'm actually okay now, I ate a banana, took one multi vitamin and a calcium tablet.

Does anyone else find themselves burping a lot while on MPA?
 
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So what's the main appeal of this stuff? And how much do you need orally? thanks
 
It's a slight mood booster; it can make you feel confident and playful. I prefer 30mg orally, maybe 40mg, but I have no stim tolerance.
 
So what's the main appeal of this stuff?
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You know those days when you're stuck in all day and have no plans, you think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should tidy my house up". You start, then after 2 minutes you think "Ahh fuck this". What MPA does is make boring activities really fun. I've never loved cleaning so much in my life, you just can't stop. Then you feel even better afterwards when you have a spring clean house. It's also good for reading, typing and does provide some mild euphoria with an extra boost of confidence. MPA is speedier caffeine without the jitteryness. It's such a wonderful and useful chemical for general everyday purposes. :)


It's a slight mood booster; it can make you feel confident and playful. I prefer 30mg orally, maybe 40mg, but I have no stim tolerance.
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Tolerance seems to build very quickly with MPA.
 
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When I first tried (snorted about 40mg) MPA I found it to be pretty much junk. Then I tried more and tried more only to get the same zilch results. So, a couple of days ago I decide to IV 30mg in 3/4ml of sterile water. I didn't feel anything for about 20 minutes. After that I started feeling depressed. The depression got worse and worse to the point of scaring me. I have NEVER had this happen with anything I have taken with the exception of buspirone (Buspar) and Effexor. So, I downed about 1mg of Phenazepam sol. and went to bed. The next day I was so sore like I had the hell beat out of me. WTF happened? MPA should not do that right? I'd like to know where I could send this to have it checked. Do you think the local university would do this? I haven't touched this since. I still have about 3/4 of a gram and it's just oing to sit there til I have some answers. I'd like to add that I am stim, opiate and benzo tollerant and from what I have heard that dose (30mg) was not a big one. As a matter of fact I have IV plenty of amphetamine type drugs and this includes methamphetamine with no negative feeling like what I had. I also always have bad experiences with anti-depressants and the like. I have never taken an anti-depressant that made me feel normal or better and I have tried them all (SSRI, SNRI, SDNRI and tricyclics). I just thought I'd add that bit of info about the anti-depressants incase it might be relevant.
 
You know when you've been using regular amphetamine for a few days then you suddenly stop taking it. You start to feel a bit depressed, physically and mentally drained and increased appetite.

When you stop using MPA I have never had any depressive symptoms or ever felt mentally drained. I just feel very physically drained for a day or two. My guess is because of down-regulation of norepinephrine and to a small extent, dopamine.

This could be the reason why people take MPA quite often, sometimes I can't even get out of bed without it. Unless I have about five cups of coffee.
 
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foolsgold said:
right this is not a brag but iv got through 15g of this stuff in a month any one else doing stupid amounts ? im starting to use it like i use to do speed when i could do a half oz of base in a week
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I did about 25 in 3 weeks quite a while back. I still use it a lot more than I should but I couldn't kill half of that in the same amount of time now. I got pretty fucked up when I reached 25g, probably the combination with sleep deprivation helped.

Anyway, yeah, same boat here more or less, but I'm on the opposite trajectory. Definitely take care of yourself though mate because, as I know, there's room for things to get a whole lot worse.

EDIT: Just checked my order history and apparently it's taken me just over a month to use 10g most recently. Pretty happy with that tbh! I'm on the world's longest tapering off period.


On the subject of MDAI, I genuinely came quite close to attempting suicide after overdoing it for several days in a row. I mean, fuck me, I don't think I'll ever experience such soul-crushing, desperate, hopeless depression ever again.
 
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lynx2051 said:
This could be the reason why people take MPA quite often, sometimes I can't even get out of bed without it. Unless I have about five cups of coffee.
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Preaching to the choir there mate. I can honestly say I wish I'd never tried it.
 
I think as a daily MDPV/a-PVP user this just didn't have enough kick for me. Same story as 2fa and 2fma.
 
lynx2051 said:
You know when you've been using regular amphetamine for a few days then you suddenly stop taking it. You start to feel a bit depressed, physically and mentally drained and increased appetite.

When you stop using MPA I have never had any depressive symptoms or ever felt mentally drained. I just feel very physically drained for a day or two. My guess is because of down-regulation of norepinephrine and to a small extent, dopamine.

This could be the reason why people take MPA quite often, sometimes I can't even get out of bed without it. Unless I have about five cups of coffee.
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snap its the first rc stim not to do this to me unless like the other week when mixed with something like that crap mdai
 
Machete said:
I did about 25 in 3 weeks quite a while back. I still use it a lot more than I should but I couldn't kill half of that in the same amount of time now. I got pretty fucked up when I reached 25g, probably the combination with sleep deprivation helped.

Anyway, yeah, same boat here more or less, but I'm on the opposite trajectory. Definitely take care of yourself though mate because, as I know, there's room for things to get a whole lot worse.

EDIT: Just checked my order history and apparently it's taken me just over a month to use 10g most recently. Pretty happy with that tbh! I'm on the world's longest tapering off period.


On the subject of MDAI, I genuinely came quite close to attempting suicide after overdoing it for several days in a row. I mean, fuck me, I don't think I'll ever experience such soul-crushing, desperate, hopeless depression ever again.
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cheers mate :) i dnt bother looking at my order history its like a train wreak lol but the main reason my last binge stopped was cash flow which thankfully it did

as for mdai i really believe it could be one of the nastiest drugs iv done in the rc world form the all most instant fucking you up , first off is the total lack of high and i found then the next day i want slit my wrist crap is just to much , nothing like mda or mdma more like a shit anti depressant . yet some people rave on about it ?
 
snap its the first rc stim not to do this to me unless like the other week when mixed with something like that crap mdai
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It's not really a bad comedown, I just feel a bit tired the next day. I've never had any depressive symptoms and it's pretty easy to quit.
 
I dabbled in drugs as a teenager, now I'm 35 and in a bit of a rut, wanted some excitement in my life so researched extensively the RC scene. I took a few benzo fury pills a few months back and enjoyed them, no negative effects what so ever. So I made an online order of 1g 6-apb, 1g mdai, 1g ethypheinidate, 1g methiopropamine and 20 etizolam. I must say that I am in love with MPA, still have most of the other RC's left but quickly ran out of mpa. I ordered another 2 grams, it arrived today, im already happy! basically i took 30mg with a can of beer every hour for like 4 hours everyday for 9 or 10 days, so about 100mg a day. always early in the day so each night i got a sound 8 hours sleep with the help of 2 or 3 etizolam. ROA was mixed with a tiny bit of water and taken orally, effects kick in in 15 mins and peak at 40 mins and start to fade around the hour mark. Then I take another 30 mg or so and the effects build up after the 3rd or 4th dose then i quit drinking beer and take etizolam and go to sleep several hours later. The effects, well not speedy, not exactly euphoria, just a lovely warm happy feeling which I have become addicted to. However, I knew i needed a break after 9 days, I had roughly 200mg left and had run out of etizolam. 5 days ago I thought I would just finish it of, so basically dosed 8 times in 10 hours or so and found that I was fine, I was watching porn for about 3 hours then I realized I needed more cigs before the shop shut at 11pm I stood up and felt quite light headed, looked in the mirror to check my appearance as I know the shop keeper very well, and my pupils were hugely dilated. I went anyway with some trepidation. When I got back I smoked about 5 and then went to bed. Everytime I shut my eyes I would jump or twitch badly, so I got up and went for a walk. Basically I couldn't sleep till 6 in the morning when my pupils finally returned to normal size. Note, I had had no other drugs for 5 days previously. I had ran out of etizolam 3 days prior and taken mpa all those days and slept fine. My advice is just to use mpa for half days at a time and no more that 100mg, not to get high but just to enhance drinking. It feels to me like the first time ever drunk alcohol only slightly clearer headed.
Anyway, i now have a another 2 grams and am ready for my 2nd 30 mg dose and beer. I love this stuff but will try to limit myself to twice a week.
Regarding the MPA Vs EPH debate. Orally 50 mg or EPH did almost nothing for me, insufflating 30-30mg idi a little more that MPA for me so slightly better but duration so short and after only 4 lines so around 100mg I had bloody booger for 3 days afterwards. Basically oral mpa is 90% as good as nasal eph but lasts longer and doesnt mess up ur nose, I know what i'll be doing now to enhance my nights out and in : 100mg of oral mpa everytime
 
^ I know what you mean, mate. I think it's quite easy to end doing that with this drug. I'm trying heavily limit myself too!

I don't want to shit on your fun but mixing MPA and specific forms of alcohol (e.g. wine and beer) is extremely risky. MPA is an MAOI which will interact badly with the tyramine in those forms of alcohol (and several others) causing potentially fatal blood pressure spikes. Safest drinks for combination would be vodka, rum and most other spirits. Take care!
 
I don't want to shit on your fun but mixing MPA and specific forms of alcohol (e.g. wine and beer) is extremely risky. MPA is an MAOI which will interact badly with the tyramine in those forms of alcohol (and several others) causing potentially fatal blood pressure spikes. Safest drinks for combination would be vodka, rum and most other spirits. Take care!
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Aren't amphetamines and cathinones also MAOI's? I'm sure there have been a lot of people who have combined alcohol with these types of drugs without causing much harm. I'm not saying it's safe mixing MAOI's with wine or beer but is it THAT risky?
 
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