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RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread V2

Its tricky getting good medical care if you have a drug filled past, i've got a pretty colourful past of opiates and all sorts i was lucky enough to find a good rehab on my third time round. The first two were utterly terrible, not only were the staff interested in nothing but locking you in a room while you try and scrape under your fingernails for any kind relief but when you are then allowed to wander around the place its the easiest place to score anything you could imagine. The third one was one of those hippy places with art therapy and stuff, it was also in the south far away from all the people i knew who liked to use.

Its a matter of shopping around for doctors till you find a decent one who isn't broken by the NHS's targets, i went to see a GP recently and her response to my genuine ailment was "So what do you want me to do about it ?" which isn't what you want, i went to a different one and she has been wonderful.

It helps she is on a board of UK doctors that are supportive of medicinal marijuanna, common ground and what not :)

Theres a huge shortfall in the NHS about treating drug users and its a real shame but they seem to be slowly but surely reforming in a positive way.
 
The variety of reasons for drug use and addiction are not taught well to junior doctors. It's a real shame you have to search around to find empathetic/sympathetic drug-related medical care in the UK too but it's very much a cultural/generational thing, I'm hoping that it can only get better. Either way, I'd rather be an interesting "junkie" in someone's eyes than a judgemental fool.
 
its not just the doctors though i went to compass a drug counselling set up list a thing that i had been messing around with like 2-dpmp mdpv 6apb and one or others just to be ask so no stimulants then ? second one i went to i started listing stuff like mdai and methoxetamine and my counselor mouth was watering with the list of all these legal chemicals but that's what happens when you get court made ex addicts do the job.

truth is iv given up on trying to get a doctor to take me seriously because i know that on my medical records they have put drug seeking so im sort of fucked no matter where i go
 
Well to be fair to them there is a hell of a lot of chemicals appearing every few months, I quite enjoy the look of utter confusion on the face of any medical professional when i list the selection of various unusual drugs i have sampled over my time. I suppose expecting them to keep up is asking a little much considering most healthcare professionals wouldn't be able to explain what research chemicals even were.

Theres a real shortcoming in the legal/medical sectors of the UK at the moment and it seems to stem largely from the fact no one has the time or money to actually watch and evaluate the analogues that are appearing so instead they issue bans on them such as mcat and i think cannabinoids of a certain kind, but obviously supply and demand dictates that new ones are invented faster than they can ban them.

What do you expect of a country who fired the chief of the board of government scientists who advise on recreational drugs simply because he produced irrefutable scientific data eluding to the fact mdma is actually pretty safe?

The UK needs to get out of its old ways and embrace new stuff instead of discussing it over tea and having david cameron piss about with every decision.

Sorry some of my tory-phobia came out there.
 
moor12 said:
Anyone tried shooting this stuff?
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I posted about this a few pages back on this, a few people on here have tried shooting MPA with fairly mixed results, there is barely any rush really apart from a slight warming across your chest and a weird throat sensation. Given the potential issues regarding its cardiotoxicity and unproven but reasonably assumed relation to heart valve issues the cost:benefit ratio makes IVing it more dangerous than its worth.
 
Yep, haven't tried it, but I wouldn't. The only sensible thing to do with this stuff is put it in your mouth. That's the only ROA I ever use with any drug, incidentally, so I'm not too upset about it!

On a different note, I've managed to cut my use of MPA to under 5g a month -- really happy about it! I'm still a daily user but at this stage it's little more than a maintenance dose to stop the crash into total apathy.
 
what do you mix it with when taking it orally, if anything?
I've usually been snorting this stuff and loving it, but I'm worried that i'll do damage to my nose.
How bad is this stuff for your nose when insufflated?
 
Etizolam and MPA is NICE!! :)

Also, I recommend eating raw chilies if anyone has any vasoconstriction issues. Not just with MPA but with any stimulant. They also very mildly stimulate endorphin levels, causing lowered blood pressure.

Plus they're high in vitamin C and other things...


http://www.chilly.in/chili_benefits.htm
 
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Yeah etizolam and MPA was always my favourite combination, the MPA wipes out most of the sedative effects and leaves you just anxiety-less and awake. I tend to get a bit carried away with benzos though so i don't do the poor man speedball anymore :)
 
Machete said:
DO NOT SMOKE THIS STUFF

It'll produce toxic sulphur oxides when burnt and you'll die if you do it enough.

Edit: once again, I don't have any actual evidence for that claim but sulphur dioxide is definitely toxic and burning this stuff produces it. I've also heard stories of people getting pretty fucked up from vaping this shit.
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I love smoking it. I take about 40mg oral and later on i smoke about 40mg I feel it's the best ROA (haven't tried pluggin or I.V and never will)

Where did you find this info?
thanks
 
Dunno said:
I love smoking it. I take about 40mg oral and later on i smoke about 40mg I feel it's the best ROA (haven't tried pluggin or I.V and never will)

Where did you find this info?
thanks
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Its based on extrapolation from similar structures and basic science, heating something to a certain point with a sulphur molecule in it generally releases it from the rest of the structure and sulphur dioxide is nasty shit. Realistically you'd probably have to smoke a vast amount to actually get any negative effects but the poisoning from sulphur oxides tends to be accumulative in as much as doing it twice then again a week later equates to 3 times due to build up.

Not to mention the fact the smoke tastes awful and you are likely losing quite a bit of it to burning and the air. All in all not worth the risk imo what with the numerous other ROAs
 
t0aster said:
what do you mix it with when taking it orally, if anything?
I've usually been snorting this stuff and loving it, but I'm worried that i'll do damage to my nose.
How bad is this stuff for your nose when insufflated?
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It's very water-soluble so you can use the full range of oral methods: put it in fruit juice (stuff like orange juice disguises the taste well), bomb it, put it under your tongue etc.

I personally put it under my tongue and then drink some tea fairly quickly afterwards so that some of it gets absorbed sublingually and the rest goes into my stomach.

Reason I'd prefer not to just leave it under my tongue is for the same reason I'd prefer not to insufflate it. It's an irritant to say the least and it could probably do some damage if left there.

Samuelg said:
Its based on extrapolation from similar structures and basic science, heating something to a certain point with a sulphur molecule in it generally releases it from the rest of the structure and sulphur dioxide is nasty shit. Realistically you'd probably have to smoke a vast amount to actually get any negative effects but the poisoning from sulphur oxides tends to be accumulative in as much as doing it twice then again a week later equates to 3 times due to build up.

Not to mention the fact the smoke tastes awful and you are likely losing quite a bit of it to burning and the air. All in all not worth the risk imo what with the numerous other ROAs
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Yeah, that's the one. :)

Although I think you might be underestimating the risk mate. Not that we can know for sure!

This is essential reading for anyone planning on smoking/vaping this stuff: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...athread-V2?p=11130848&viewfull=1#post11130848 (I hope everything turned out alright for that guy :/)
 
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(stuff like orange juice disguises the taste well)
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Are you SURE? The taste makes me ill thinking about it lol.

It tastes like rotten milk with a VERY chemical taste to it.
 
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any one else had problems peeing on this stuff never had it before but last few batches caused it found it all most impossible at times
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YES, always. Hard to piss and you dribble out urine when you're finally finished. I think it's common with Norepinephrine releasing agents and re-uptake inhibitors.
 
good was thinking i had something wrong down stairs :) dnt know if to try camfetamine this week or not or just stick with this and some noids eph is out the window for a good month till my nose recovers maybe some mdpv ?
 
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