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The Mephedrone Thread (4-mmc)

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only stimulant wise
you wont munt out or have any MD effects just feel good
beware its a slight maoi
 
As the pharmacological actions of 4-MMC have yet to be scientifically determined it is advised that this drug not be consumed if taking other medications. If the actions are similar to MDMA in respect to SERT binding etc, then it would be expected the SSRI could competitive bind receptors, thereby reducing the effect of MDMA, but if as suspected, 4-MMC has direct actions on 5HT receptors, competitively binds to SERT, or if release is governed by alternative mechanisms, then the combination of 4-MMC with certain SSRIs could be extremely dangerous. Because there also seems to be sympathomimetic actions, imo, 4-MMC and SNRIs would almost certainly be a very dangerous combo.
 
Ok, I was wondering if someone could shed some light on this.

A while ago, maybe 6 months, I was given a capsule of what was supposedly 'Khat'.
Snorted it all in one go, and then within 5 minutes and felt very stimulated, euphoric, and clear headed. This lasted about 40 or so minutes before wearing off. The stimulant-like effect still lingered for a little longer.
Now, suppose it could of been Khat, or could of been Mephedrone, or could of been anything really.

My question is has anyone had 'Khat' before? And if so, are the effects similar to Mephedrone?
 
I'd say it was probably 4-mmc nicknamed "Cat" for the methcathinone. Khat is a plant and the leaves are usually chewed for the effects. Unless someone extracted the cathinone from khat itself. Hard to say for sure though really.
 
katha edudulis or green khat was common in australia till a little while ago, the effects were as you described but from memory i had to chew on newer leaves from the polant which tasted like crap.

untill you get a GCMS who knows
 
MilliVanilli said:
Ok, I was wondering if someone could shed some light on this.

A while ago, maybe 6 months, I was given a capsule of what was supposedly 'Khat'.
Snorted it all in one go, and then within 5 minutes and felt very stimulated, euphoric, and clear headed. This lasted about 40 or so minutes before wearing off. The stimulant-like effect still lingered for a little longer.
Now, suppose it could of been Khat, or could of been Mephedrone, or could of been anything really.

My question is has anyone had 'Khat' before? And if so, are the effects similar to Mephedrone?
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ye we call it mcat sometimes, nt sure where the name comes about, but as far as im aware psycosynthesis is right, and im sure khat is a legal substance? bark or something that you chew.

4mmc/mephedrone/dolly/mcat/4-methylmethcathinone/mk (as long as its pure) is a crystaline powder with a distinctive smell, and when you sniffed it, describe it cz apparently (according to more experienced friends) its a different feeling to other things when you sniff it. more stingy.

let us know :)

buzz xxx
 
So i've always had the crystalized drone and finally tried the fluffy powder kind the other night...gotta say i barely felt anything. The crystal kind was waaaaay better. Just thought I'd offer a little comparison. The powder kind, although less effective overall, had less stimulant effects and was more 'clean' feeling. The crystal kind is like punch to the face, it hits you hard and right away, feels way better...although it feels a bit more toxic.

Anyone have any comments on any noticeable differences between these two types of drone?
 
but as far as im aware psycosynthesis is right, and im sure khat is a legal substance
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Khat can be imported legally into Australia, but a permit a permit is required and permits are normally (as far as I can tell) reserved for those of a religious order where khat is consumed as part of that practice. I believe several are normally issued per year. Trouble is, the cathinone in khat dimerises quickly, meaning that khat needs to be consumed within 6 or so hours of harvest, so I don't know how effective any imported stuff would be.
 
Buddy122 said:
So i've always had the crystalized drone and finally tried the fluffy powder kind the other night...gotta say i barely felt anything. The crystal kind was waaaaay better. Just thought I'd offer a little comparison. The powder kind, although less effective overall, had less stimulant effects and was more 'clean' feeling. The crystal kind is like punch to the face, it hits you hard and right away, feels way better...although it feels a bit more toxic.

Anyone have any comments on any noticeable differences between these two types of drone?
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Usually anything that is crystal is better than powder. The powder 4mmc is ok but crystal is better. Lasts a bit shorter but more euphoric.
 
yea i wasnt sure about the powder stuff, iv only ever had 99.8% pure 4mmc, or so the source ses it is, is the powder just simply ground up? or cut up with otherrr....less 4mmc materials?

would be disappointing.

buzz xxx
 
.xbuzzybeex. said:
yea i wasnt sure about the powder stuff, iv only ever had 99.8% pure 4mmc, or so the source ses it is, is the powder just simply ground up? or cut up with otherrr....less 4mmc materials?

would be disappointing.

buzz xxx
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Some are cut badly with other non actives but the "pure" powders arnt crystallized or cleaned properly.
 
a few things i'd like to add after consuming 8pts roughly on friday night/sat morning.

there are some shitty side effects to this "drug"
i remember reading about chest pains in an earlier post. and i'll second that.
i've had chest pains when i wake up each morning since. kinda feels like someones gone and cracked my two lower ribs (could be liver pains from the chemical exiting), and a general tightness in the upper chest.

constipation - this has *NEVER* happened to me until the last few days.

mood swings - nothing major, but i've been easily irritable, normally i dont get this bad even with a few days straight on shard.

tiredness - sat / sun and monday, i just felt so exhausted. all i wanted to do was sleep.

lastly is the skin breakout. i've copped some nasty pimples since.
i usually get a few if i have a decent bender.
but i'm 25 now ffs, i shouldnt be getting an outbreak like this on my neck and face.

give me meth or mdma over this anyday.
 
js2k6 said:
a few things i'd like to add after consuming 8pts roughly on friday night/sat morning.

there are some shitty side effects to this "drug"
i remember reading about chest pains in an earlier post. and i'll second that.
i've had chest pains when i wake up each morning since. kinda feels like someones gone and cracked my two lower ribs (could be liver pains from the chemical exiting), and a general tightness in the upper chest.

constipation - this has *NEVER* happened to me until the last few days.

mood swings - nothing major, but i've been easily irritable, normally i dont get this bad even with a few days straight on shard.

tiredness - sat / sun and monday, i just felt so exhausted. all i wanted to do was sleep.

lastly is the skin breakout. i've copped some nasty pimples since.
i usually get a few if i have a decent bender.
but i'm 25 now ffs, i shouldnt be getting an outbreak like this on my neck and face.

give me meth or mdma over this anyday.
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Its toxic as fuck man, glad u realized lol Im off of it now too. Alot of people having problems with it. My finger and hand was hurting after a binge. Not worth it IMHO.
 
meph aint making ur constipated, never made me constipated, you guys are goin far too hard on it imo

its proven that its cardio toxic... so why abuse it to the point its doing damage?

take it easy people..
 
meph aint making ur constipated, never made me constipated, you guys are goin far too hard on it imo

its proven that its cardio toxic... so why abuse it to the point its doing damage?

take it easy people..
 
Figured since there's no MDMA about I'd give some of this toxic shit a go. Tried to order online and they told me they don't ship to Aus. as it's banned here?! :(
 
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