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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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Biscuit is on to something here re: MDMA quality. Forget cooks because MDMA is really more of an exact process. Indeed a "cook" will no doubt be responsible for the poor quality MDMA commonly seen ie "a cup of this and a cap of that, give it a stir and voila!!" vs equal g/mol per x of precursor, react under reflux at x degree's centigrade. You get the picture, one (the cook) is rough and ready (and probably really "mongy") and one is professionally made (the educated chemist). That is why MDMA is so very disappointing for me personally these days. Just utter bollocks!
 
Well there ain't no complaints from anyone who's given the crystal I've got hold of a whirl, that's for sure ;)
 
would much prefer to drop 100mg than 200mg , less is sometimes more.
Sedating "mongy" effects at 200mg could simply be the result of these effects being expressed more at higher doses. Anyone familiar with meth or opiates will know that certain dosages tend to be more stimulating than others.
Other than that I would agree with biscuit about it being possibly non racemic MDMA. Although if this were the case you would expect to hear reports of "peaks" and "come ups" that correlate to the differing AUCs of the two enantiomers.
 
if i was going out night clubbing raving or something like that i'd rather take 100mg doses,however if i was having a chill night at home i'd drop 200mg........the ROA makes a HUGE difference.... in no way am i endorsing IV use im just merely stating the facts.When i shoot up MDMA i shoot 100mg get a VERY strong opiate like buzz usually i just end up on the couch moo'ing and moaning wriggling around.When i shoot 150mg of MD its too much for me usually anything more than 120mg IV makes me yack like i've eatin half a gram in a couple hours...not much info there but its something?
 
Well there ain't no complaints from anyone who's given the crystal I've got hold of a whirl, that's for sure
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I agree where the MDMA crystal is good - it has been made in accordance with the usual methods and has been properly purified. And that is the point, people are saying that good MDMA crystal has much better subjective effects than a similar dose from one of the super pills.

I have had crystal that took me back to the beginning, even after all of this time, and "crystal" that was no different than bog standard local MDXX pills. Clearly, there is something important about purity for this drug, even where to dosage and ROA are the same.

would much prefer to drop 100mg than 200mg , less is sometimes more.
Sedating "mongy" effects at 200mg could simply be the result of these effects being expressed more at higher doses.
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This is definitely correct but it seems even when users are halving the super pills, thereby taking the ideal dose, the effects are still more mongy and munted and with less clarity/loved up euphoria etc.
 
That being said, I've had varying experiences with crystal, even when it's been the same dosage from the same batch :/ haha
 
Had some insanely pure MDMA crystal just a week ago. Snorted 120 odd mg's and felt... pretty much fuck all. MDMA get's the big middle finger from me. I guess when you abuse/use substances like 3 meo pcp and 4 aco dmt on a semi regular basis is it any wonder MDMA does NOTHING anymore. It did 20 odd years ago when I was a late teens/early twenties, fresh faced young raver. Thing is back then I didn't have a clue that substances like 3 meo pcp and 4 aco dmt could even exist...
 
At what amount of MDMA do you guys start experiences side effects?
Side effects meaning eye wiggles, rolling back eyes and serious jaw clenching.
 
HiManImDan - ~150-200mg

lovepsychs, I have had the same, very good crystal for a while now, and snorting gives me barely any except for speeding me up a bit, whereas eating I still get all effects (though I find snorting better for redosing than just eating more)
 
^this is quite interesting, I had a fair amount of what I thought to be MDMA a few years back, beige tan crystal, never reagent tested it but the effects were nearly identical.
However I assumed because it had barely any effect when taken nasally for either myself or anyone else that it was a different substance and not actually MDMA.
Considering even the legit pressed pills with various binders and whatnot that have worked perfectly well sniffed back in the day then I can't see any other explanation than it being something else.
Has anyone tested this non nasally active crystal?
 
yes, in fact, my friend failed a drug test because of the crystal i mentioned in my last post, he tested positive to MDMA
 
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MDMA has never really had any effect on me when snorted. I think maybe once or twice I have racked it and felt minor effects but it pretty much doesn't have any effects when snorted for me
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Im surprised by this, I have always found snorting to be as effective as eating with a and with a quicker come up.
 
Yeah, although I haven't done it in along time now I used to get a decent hit off snorting crushed pills. But as I said it was ages ago. One pill we snorted at a rave turned out to be K and thrashed me and my mate hard, it's was so intense it was kinda scary, especially as we were expecting E feeling.
 
It is strange indeed. So many of my friends would get the effects and I wouldn't. I always thought I was doing it wrong but I guess the only way to snort drugs wrong is to exhale instead of inhale. My body and mind is strange when it comes to drugs, I get addicted to substances easily but at the same time I can get off them easily enough, some drugs don't work on me an some do. I have a rediculous tolerances to psychedelics an stims and a ridiculously low tolerance to depressants. I get pissed easily and can't really control it and pass out, I get stoned off one cone (joints don't get me that stoned) I can eat an insanely amount of acid and MDMA and people wouldn't know I was high. He'll sometimes I don't even know I'm high lol. I have been smoking weed and drinking alcohol for near 20 years and I still get pissed and stoned like I'm new to it.
 
Also wanted to add that I have been on a break since the start of march this year from MDMA Donovan try and get my tolerance to a more affordable level, this weekend I am getting on it. I have a brown diamond which is MDA based and I have a couple of caps wieghed up to 140-150mg and I would really like to do a MDA/MDMA combo. I don't think I have knowingly done this comb before but I have combined just about every other available drug with MDMA and can handle my shit. What I want to know is am I better off taking a cap and The pill at the same time or am I better off having the cap then pill or vice versa? I want the best possible outcome.
 
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What I want to know is am I better off taking a cap and The pill at the same time or am I better off having the cap then pill or vice versa? I want the best possible outcome.
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Maybe crush the pill up and add half each to two of your caps? (If it isn't too much of a large dose of course) That's what I personally would do anyway. :-) I've only done the combo once or twice myself, very amazing experiences. Sounds like you're in for a fantastic night!

I am unfamiliar with the brown diamonds, have you tested them yourself? Just tried a quick search on PR but I couldn't find anything about MD based brown diamonds.
 
I seem to recall finding snorting MDMA to be a bit less sedating/munty than taking it orally, but perhaps a bit less euphoric as well. I can't say for sure it was less euphoric but I do distinctly remember I had a preference for eating pills as opposed to snorting them, although it wasn't uncommon for me to snort some to re dose from an oral dose. Snorting E pills is pretty damn painful though.
 
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Maybe crush the pill up and add half each to two of your caps? (If it isn't too much of a large dose of course) That's what I personally would do anyway. :-) I've only done the combo once or twice myself, very amazing experiences. Sounds like you're in for a fantastic night!

I am unfamiliar with the brown diamonds, have you tested them yourself? Just tried a quick search on PR but I couldn't find anything about MD based brown diamonds.
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Yeah I did test them. A friend of a friend got a bunch and asked if I could test a couple of pills for him. There is a report on them from back in April. I didn't do a report on them as there was one from April and some of the reagents mixed by the time I got a pic. He gave me a pill for helping him out. I teste them and the pale blue clubs that are on the PR site. Yeah I think ill crush it and split it over 2 caps and see how I go. I am most probably not going to remember much o the night lol.
 
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