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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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Ecstasy use on the rise in new powdered form called molly

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Over $62 million (street value) of MDMA was seized in 2012-13.
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Read the rest of the bullshit here -

http://www.smh.com.au/national/heal...owdered-form-called-molly-20131228-300mr.html
 
Lol 'new' powder form, as if its some sort of development. When actually its the reverse less processing required for powder than pills.
 
Has anyone here heard of molly being called brown sugar before? The article is insane, saying there's LSD/acid in pills. I guess that part is referring to the police media release about those pills with nbome in them?
 
poledriver said:
lol, there's a whole series of them on the guys profile, he did no. 1, 2 and 3 and a nightclub one. Check them out for a laugh. I can't believe these guys are serious. Oh well each to their own or whatever I guess.

Stereosonic 'Get Your Muzz On'

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201835920517786
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Yeah it's all about pumping iron, roids and being "metrosexual" and with pants that tight I assume a sock is required? More important to be seen these days or scene queens lmao. Mate it's a different world to when we were young. Back then it was usually the blokes with small packages and stature getting juiced, or of certain ethnic backgrounds. These guys are obviously on meth or meth pills lol.

Give those guys some of my party treats and they'd be on a stretcher or in the psychiatric ward. I don't think the realization they are not all that would be something they could handle. What kind of party treats I like probably would have most people more than just a little fucked up, I admit, I'm a freak. It's all about the image these days. Image is everything obey your image! I may be unfit have but on weight, shed it and then put a bit back on but I'm not 24 anymore and at that age it was all about skating, punk shows, raves, ecstasy and girls. No need for the juice if your not overcompensating for something your lacking. If your into fitness, martial arts and shit a bit of juice is ok I guess but those guys look like they love themselves a little to much. Glad I gave stereo a miss and sat round on 4 ho met... well I over did it and was a sweaty mess so going to a festival in that state was a non event I'd never have gotten past security.
 
Why has MDMA crystal/powder become so widely available here, while pill quality continues to decline? I get that the whole "molly" thing has become popular all over, but I still find it strange no one is bothering to press up a decent pill anymore. Most pills are either duds, or have *at best* 50-80mg of MD in them if you're lucky. The last locally pressed pill that I remember being considered being MD high would probably be the green hearts of 2011 (or 2010, I can't remember), that even then it was a rarity - how come no one is bothering anymore? I miss having quality presses, they were so nice to look at/smell.

Can't believe things have been so shitty for so long now :(
 
Oldred3s said:
Man of that video was shot between say late 90s to early 00s that whole crowd would be into it a lot more.
You can tell when drugs turned shit cos that's when the music did too
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Here's a vid from a rave I was at in 1993 in Syd when there was loads of strong pills around, this is at like 8 am (sunday morning) after the party was going from 9pm the night before, see the sun coming thru into the warehouse, half the crowd have gone home cos they were tired or were coming down, so you can imagine how packed it was, good times. :)

[video=youtube_share;0Z5U3bg3nfE]http://youtu.be/0Z5U3bg3nfE[/video]
 
poledriver said:
Here's a vid from a rave I was at in 1993 in Syd when there was loads of strong pills around, this is at like 8 am (sunday morning) after the party was going from 9pm the night before, see the sun coming thru into the warehouse, half the crowd have gone home cos they were tired or were coming down, so you can imagine how packed it was, good times. :)

[video=youtube_share;0Z5U3bg3nfE]http://youtu.be/0Z5U3bg3nfE[/video]
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God damn, I was born a decade too late. :( I only turned 18 in 2005 and things were already in deep decline then, don't even get me started on the scene today. The 90's would've been on another level completely, the music, drugs and people - can't be beat. On the flip side I probably would've ended up on heroin had I started partying then, haha.
 
If the pills I had on NYE are anything to go by, quality is still piss poor. Mates I got them from were going on about them being "almost as good as X" where X is some other common press, obviously of decent quality by their standards. Well after double-dropping these white pills pressed with either a playboy bunny or lightning bolt, I concluded my mates have pretty horrid taste and/or exceptionally low tolerances considering their drug diets easily fit under "abuse". Felt pretty good for the night, but definitely wasn't what I'd consider value for money given the market rate for this shit. Was mildly buzzed at best, and the main thing that told ME I was rolling was opening my eyes much wider than normal....otherwise meh.

Getting hold of a decent amount of crystal very shortly. Not interested in wasting my time and money again in the game of party pill lucky dip. Fk paying X-dollars for what's probably 50mg of MDMA when I could be effectively paying the same for 100mg of capped crystal lol.
 
^ Lol. Pills and quality just are two words that don't belong together ie "high quality pills" because they aren't. Seen some floating around costing a packet and the guy even admitted they were "probably 50-60 mg MDMA each". Reagent tested but so what?? When your paying almost double what you did 20 odd years ago for the same dose and eating 3 pills vs 1!! In those days MDMA pills were expensive but just 1 was enough for the night. A low tolerance you could get away with two 1/2 pill doses in a night so they seem to be more cost effective back then than today. Trozzle your on the money! Purchasing and testing MDMA crystal and then capping it yourself is the way to go. I think the words "bunk" and "pills" eg I want my money back these pills are fucking bunk crap! Possibly should be a more common association, in this country at least. I dunno some people seem to be in awe of their dealers combined with youth and a lot of bunk quality pills for almost a decade??? Maybe I'm just suffering tom tom's...
 
Fk paying X-dollars for what's probably 50mg of MDMA when I could be effectively paying the same for 100mg of capped crystal lol.
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There's average crystal tho too, I've had 100mg caps that I tested on two occasions that tested up really good, fizz and smoke and instant change, and even tho I had no tolerance I still felt jack shit, just wide eyes, not much more really, was a waste of money.
 
Definitely potential hit and miss with crystal too! I've had a yellow tinged capped crystal that was supposedly MDA (didn't test it myself, though the particular mate I got it from capped them himself and wouldn't rip me off) yet even with one down the hatch and one up the nose I didn't feel a thing. ABSOLUTELY. NOTHING. Blew his mind too lol.

As far as I'm concerned, if I'm paying the market rate for MDMA - be it capped crystal or pills - I expect from my previous experience with good crystal to get a really good buzz with plenty of social empathy from a single hit, or to spend the night pressing my lips together and rolling my eyes enough not to care about socialising from a double hit.

Unfortunately with these pills I spent most of the night trying to discern what I was feeling, if anything. Oh well, lesson learned. Just thankful that while I was out on the street too busy trying to work out whether I was coming up or not to even watch the fireworks, I found myself approached by a random blonde asking for a midnight/birthday kiss. Quickly forgot all about the imminent faceroll as it soon became more of a face-mash ;)
 
poledriver said:
There's average crystal tho too, I've had 100mg caps that I tested on two occasions that tested up really good, fizz and smoke and instant change, and even tho I had no tolerance I still felt jack shit, just wide eyes, not much more really, was a waste of money.
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Good point Poledriver! Had a couple dodge "MDMA crystals" during the years did 3 tests Mecke, Marquis, Mandalin (on some of them at least) and was all "It's the business" but needed 200 mg's to feel like 100 mg. That and the fact it's just not the same for me anymore "lost the magic" to justify expense. Dunno??? Become a big fan of 2cb over the last 4-5 years, I mean it's always been really enjoyable but now day's it's the number one substance I actually seek out. MDMA if your lucky and get good crystal is still enjoyable but 2cx's with the visuals, emapthogenic qualities, stimulation and (for 2cb at least) mild comedown and less negative effects (no 2 day post use blues hitting you like a freight train) equals more enjoyment.

Do remember a mate had a few huge bags of "MDMA pure" imported from Canada (probably like 10 grams a bag) but a quick taste and dose and it was obviously BZP with associated awful hangover/comedown. Didn't test that shite before I took some and fuck that was a mistake. Probably should have gone against dosing after tasting the pipe's but I thought: why not? Well a BZP hangover should make one think "WHY?" and "WHY DID I BOTHER??".
 
Do you recall when a certain legal high company was sending out free samples of their party pills to Aus if you filled in their website? Me and my mate filled out that shit like 30 times each with different names to the same address and they sent us 30 packs each. They were pills that pretty much looked like E's, but were bzp, 2 coloured and stamped pills in each pack I think from memory. I tried it a few times and it was horrible, headaches and what not, I gave the rest away. Im not a fan of bzp, I wonder if anyone is? Seemed shit to me.
 
No I don't think I had the misfortune. It was officially banned here just after the Yanks banned it in 2003 but it didn't stop those "legal high" sites doing their thing. First came across the muck visiting NZ when it was legal about 2005-6. Walk into a bottle shop from memory and they would have all these flashy looking packages with names like "Rave", "Dove" or some shit,blah, blah on them. I think you could get them at tobacconists, probably corner stores and servo's like with Kronic as well. Looked like poor imitations of real MDMA pills. Ok quality press but like a cartoon version, just a little bit to big and chunky. Not like the BZP replacement DMMA pills (even worse than BZP just made you feel sick) they were massive. As well as the pressed pills there were caps as well, fancy colored caps no less lmao.

The neo organic doves were good 2005/06 4mmc/4mec and possibly bk-mdma. There was also a brief NZ knock off of those, encapsulated goodies I recall. There was a yellow, 4MMC or possibly bk-MDMA, NZ gel cap being called "disco duck" lmao!

As for the fan base one guy IV'd that stuff from Canada (it was legal till 2010 I think) and was stoked. Though it was "mate that's real pure MDMA". LMAO obviously a bit younger than myself. I watched in horror cause as well as TFMPP and BZP that shit had vitamin B1, B2, magnesium etc. Could not stop the guy from doing it though. He looked at me as if I was a dickhead who knew nothing and should kindly shut the fuck up, so I did. Mind you he was in obvious pain after his shot of "mate that's real pure MDMA". Not come across to many others who have knowingly consumed pipe's and liked them enough to give the stuff a serious bash. Just ignorant fools or people who hadn't tried MDMA in the past (maybe done a little ice though) and some during the drought 07-08 or whenever it was.
 
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There is a lot of shit out there but from personal experience NSW has had some of the best MDMA i've had since I started dropping (which was only in 2006). This stuff is so good my father and his friends who are veterans have repeatedly referred to it "as good as 1999-2000 new year stuff". I had 1 and a half points as a starter at a house party over christmas break and I honestly wasn't expecting much. Within 40 minutes I had jelly legs, eyes all over the joint, cuddling people I'd just met. This was a mixture of really, really solid, like needed a hammer to break purple/tan crystals. Had barely any smell but when you did get a whiff closest I can relate to was licorice. Whether it was from overseas or not I wouldn't know but if it was produced here, I wish they'd put that stuff in our pills because the only pills i've eaten in the last 2 years that have given me that feeling have turned out to be imports (question marks/mortal kombats). Why is there steady, quality crystal yet only sub-par pills. Is the cost of a pill press off-setting the profits they'd make off pressing actual decent 100mg pills or is it just an ignorant market that continue to throw money at crap that keeps it aflloat?
 
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