The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

[poledriver]

had some mephedrone last night, easily as good as MDMA

Really? Damn. Wouldn't have thought that, no wonder it got so popular.

And yeah those molly rocks looks amazing.

 

[Oldred3s]

Man mephedrone is fuckin shit. I was sold it as MDMA, tested told my mate that sold it it was no way MDMA. I read up on it and decided to double drop the caps. Everything I could find about it said its about half to 3 quarts the strength of MDMA. After consuming 2 points. I didn't get anymore than the first innitial feeling of a come up on MDMA.
It's fuckin crap, over priced wouldnt have it again even if it was given for free.
I honestly felt like I was coming up for 2 hours. No peak no plateau just that initial feeling where you say "I think it's starting to come on". Absolute puss

 

[mister]

Man mephedrone is fuckin shit. I was sold it as MDMA, tested told my mate that sold it it was no way MDMA. I read up on it and decided to double drop the caps. Everything I could find about it said its about half to 3 quarts the strength of MDMA. After consuming 2 points. I didn't get anymore than the first innitial feeling of a come up on MDMA.
It's fuckin crap, over priced wouldnt have it again even if it was given for free.
I honestly felt like I was coming up for 2 hours. No peak no plateau just that initial feeling where you say "I think it's starting to come on". Absolute puss

With all due respect, you probably got shit meph. A huge amount of people prefer it to MDMA and you definitely peak on it although the peak isnt that long, its a good peak. Its incredibly morish due to the short duration.

I did post that whist binging on mephedrone though so I could have been biased at the time, I still love MDMA so i suppose its like comparing apples and oranges and both have there places.

I personally really like mephedrone, I like how social it is and how horny it makes me.

And yeah, those rocks look very nice!

 

[Oldred3s]

With all due respect, you probably got shit meph. A huge amount of people prefer it to MDMA and you definitely peak on it although the peak isnt that long, its a good peak. Its incredibly morish due to the short duration.

I did post that whist binging on mephedrone though so I could have been biased at the time, I still love MDMA so i suppose its like comparing apples and oranges and both have there places.

I personally really like mephedrone, I like how social it is and how horny it makes me.

And yeah, those rocks look very nice!

Maybe I did but the caps weren't dust, was all chunks of clear crystal and when I tested it it turned yellow straight away and fizzed and smoked just like good quality MDMA does.
I still wouldn't have it again. The scatter I had the next day was more prominent than the high, so not worth it in my opinion

 

[poledriver]

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[poledriver]

It's fuckin crap, over priced wouldnt have it again even if it was given for free.

It's not really something I wish to try, but I guess the thing is that there would be different strengths and depends how cut down it is. And all that. If it was top shit and all my close friends had had it and were crapping on about it, i'd probably give it a go in a small amount to see what I thought of it, but alas that has never happened. And I dont hang with along of my old mates who were/are into alot of chems anymore.

 

[lovepsychadelics]

had some mephedrone last night, easily as good as MDMA

You get shithouse MDMA then 4 MEC is a redose compelling fucker with less tha 1/2 the pleasure of MDMA. BTW I've had access to 4 MEC for 8 years and have gobbled a lot of it. I used to get 1 g from China for the price of a bif MAC... 4 MMC rocks and takes a huge crap on 4 MEC which it it's poor crap cousin. Oh and I love the cat pee taste of cathinones in general. Had heaps of cathinones 4 MMC, MCAT(also the slang term in UK for 4MMC), butylone, pentedrone... the list goes on. Only 4 MMC and MCAT(methylcathinone) are good shit. Obviously you have not had real MDMA which will have you flat on your back eye's rolling and telling everone how much you love them while touching everything in site as it "feels sooo good". 4 MEC is ok as a cheap MDMA alternative but if you pay more than 100 zimbabwian turtle turds for a gram your getting ripped off. It lacks the massive empathy and euphoria. Add speed to those 4 mec caps and it may be ok. Better yet add MDPV and get bath salt zombies!!!

Peaces sound ablout 30 mg MDMA as well.

 

[DigitalLove]

wut? There are no way the peaces are 30mg of MDMA, for one they're MDA and for two they were definitely stronger than the white bats (which AFAIK got lab tested at 100mg MDMA).

 

[Quixote]

Quick question: with the popularity of mdma crystal/powder/molly/whatever now, anyone coming across dodge batches? I would think there would be some RCs being passed around as rock - and I remember reading that 5-APB/6-APB test up the same way MD does? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

 

[Sweet Jones]

nah i havent heard about that happening. definitely some batches have been better than others but everything ive gotten for ages has been good mdma

 

[thestudent14]

wut? There are no way the peaces are 30mg of MDMA, for one they're MDA and for two they were definitely stronger than the white bats (which AFAIK got lab tested at 100mg MDMA).

Doubt the white bats were 100mg, I reckon about 60-80.
Peaces I reckon are about the same but MDA. I the brown peaces were over 100mg MDA, double dropping them would've had me in full flight, and having 3 + 280mg crystal MDMA would've had me rolling on the floor but I was still functioning.
Although by the end of the night it did take me over 20minutes to work out how to put on my onesie.

Had a great weekend 8)

 

[lovepsychadelics]

wut? There are no way the peaces are 30mg of MDMA, for one they're MDA and for two they were definitely stronger than the white bats (which AFAIK got lab tested at 100mg MDMA).

Wouldn't know I get gell caps with PURE MDMA but if you read my post about breakthrough you will realize I'm over this shit. If you take 3 peaces that say are 100 mg MDA your quite the trooper indeed. That means 300 mg MDA... Good to see people testing stuff even though pills are in my opinion for kids as they look a bit like candy. NO offence but fuck pills of in my opinion and if people are double or triple dropping them they must be a tad shit. DO you know what happens to an OD on MDMA Hyperthermia ie your body cooks in it's own juices. Temps in the 40's+ are common and that does not equal homeostasis. Pack the poor sod in ice find a vein... the rest you can find out in ed if you go a quad drop of these pills. 100 mg I doubt it highly if people are doing 3 in one go.

The assumption was made as people are talking about dropping 2-3 pills to get a "roll". If they are 100 mg that is FUCKING DANGEROUS. Hope none of you end up in ED. Be safe be smart start low go slow and all that bullshit. I'm here to advise not antagonize if you disregard my warnings don't be surprised to find my face peering over you in the ED department. I look like quasimodo.

At least you young melborne crew are getting MDMA. Sum kid in Brisbane gave me a cap and I bit it...mmmmm yummy taste of 4MEC nothing quite like it. Also tested a second cap and yep yellow/orange on mecke test kit. Gave the poor fellow a dud 2cb cap I got of not my usual source had words with the dud 2cb supplying dickhead and apparently they sold well... well if you know no better. Didn't even get a refund for the 10 mgs of 2cb I recieved that I paid for 24 mg off... Some people are just assholes I guess.

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Quick question: with the popularity of mdma crystal/powder/molly/whatever now, anyone coming across dodge batches? I would think there would be some RCs being passed around as rock - and I remember reading that 5-APB/6-APB test up the same way MD does? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Yes it does, there is a you tube vide showing as much. SOme people though staves, rockets etc were MDMA try looking a few pages back on this thread I kindly posted a pic of some "green Goblins" not that they were green. 6 EAPB and if you don't know where they come from (CHINA) or the middle men you have not been around very long. I'm a veteran and not proud of it I've done stupid dangerous things and am only alive today by dumb luck. BE FUCKING CAREFUL and don't believe the bullshit dealers/your mates say.

 

[DigitalLove]

Yeah I felt the bats were weak as piss, but I heard from trusted friends (read: Not people I was buying pills off) that they were around 100mg. Which I thought would resonably make the peaces like 80-100mg MDA. Doesn't MDA hit harder?
Maybe I was wrong.

Yes pills are shit we all know this, but you're never going to be able to stop every 16-18 year old from buying shitty pills when they don't know a thing about it and have some dodgy dealer telling them 'nah brah they're strong as'. That's where all these dodgy pressers are making money, from selling to young kids with no idea in the smokers of dodgy clubs. Maybe if we had a setup like Holland, free pill testing ahhh. A man can dream can't he.

 

[5000m]

The drug culture in Holland is so much different to Australia, the norm here is people cock sizing and raving on about how many shitty pills they took etc and all it does is display lack of education. Typical example, 20 year old chick at festival "I had 14 of these awesome pills oh my god they're amazing do you want some??" clearly she has no clue what she's putting into her body or about testing, dosage or effects etc. sad really

What pisses me off about pills is you can never trust the contents. one person's "brown peaces" isn't guaranteed to be the same or even close to your "brown peace". it may be made by the same presser with different dosage, same presser different product or from an entirely different presser. pills and their logos, colours and shit mean nothing at all it's all bullshit designed to take money from people like the girl I mentioned above

 

[lovepsychadelics]

^ Utter truth here. If you got 3 x 200 mg pills and popped all 3 expect a paramedic and a trip to ED. Some mad dutch ravers drop 2 x 200 mg MDMA pills in a night but they have massive tolerance and to be frank are often twats.

 

[AFA]

Il believe it when i can go to my dr/psych and explain how i have trumor (torma how the fuck do you spell that word) and get bottle of 99% pure mdma with a dosage guide and some 5htp or similar recovery product.


Partially my dreams have come true

 

[lovepsychadelics]

It's like the new PE formula cold n flu. Utter crap does sweat fa. Did you read wiki well? It's mixed with caffeine for shitty legal high pills replaced DMMA to an extent. They should be free they cost nothing and are in most weight loss supplements. Nothing that will replace MDMA or add to an MDMA high.

 

[bangersNmash]

Doubling should be a good dose. If after 2 hours you still haven't reached your desired state a third would be okay, but as you've only had MDxx a few times I would suggest no more then that until you can more accurately evaluate your personal tolerance =)

Yeah I'll probably try 1 1/2 next time since last time I took white batmans, had 1 1/2 and was a really good and clean fuck.

Yeah basically everyone I know who uses pills semi-regularly doubled/tripled the peaces, if you're not using once or twice a month maybe 2-2 and a half?

Started to have some real sketchy comedowns, only used two or 3 times in the last 3 or 4 months.

Mm, I know everyones personal tolerance is different but my mates both took 1 and they were great(first timers though), I think I would be good at 1 1/2.
Speaking of sketchy comedowns one mate had audio hallucinations and some visual but they were the 'good' kind. The other was home alone and seeing shadows around his room, I felt so bad for him because this was his first time ha.. This was a good 5 hours after dropping.

The cookies and cream are low dose MDMA like 30 mg or so. bangersNmash anything that has a comeup with nothing much but a slight chemical feel is usually PMA or perhaps at best a very low dose MDMA. Test kits would be a good start.

I doubt it's PMA, I think I read somewhere that it takes over an hour for PMA to kick in so theres that but not sure how valid that is, makes sense though because if after an hour they dont feel anything they may take another which leads them to 'OD' on pma.
Peoples testing did show it to be MDA but I think it would be a bit higher than 30mg as my mates did have really similar experiences to the one posted up on pillreports. I do have one left so going to test that myself, I wouldn't be surprised if it tested to be MDA but doing it just incase.

What lovepsychadelics said it true though, if you have to double drop or even triple it means the pills aren't that good to begin with..that or your tolerance is just high. But yeah if I had access to powder I would definitely take that over pills anyday. That with testing seems to be the only way to know exactly whats getting into your body.

 

[Sweet Jones]

Powders even easier to cut than pills are, at least only the presser can cut pills, powder can be cut by anyone who handles it between the cook and you