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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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Wow double dropping is a bit sketchy especially if it was 5/6 apb taken not mdma. It's good at the say 70-100 mg range for 5 apb and 6 was a little higher around 90-120 mg. I got really fucked up taking 2 doses of 100 mg 6apb and 2 beers. I mean The Hoff eating a burger while drunk weird/fucked up. I deleted some of my post not trying to dicksize lol just some people I've known in the past giving me a jilted view on life. I try not to do drugs these days after some bad experiences with my health of late. Got all clear on x-ray and bloods but have some kind of chest infection which I'm really prone to these days due to being a heavy smoker for nearly 2 decades (all sorts...).

That said if I did I won't just go out and get whatever I'd rather pass than take something bunk or a substance I had not identified. I think there was also a you tube video that showed test results with ez test kits for the 5 apb and 6 apb although it may have been under the branded trade name "benzofury" tm. The results looked almost identical to mdma from memory. Also the_student14 if you get the chance I recommend 109 rue Oberkampf; 75011; Paris; France: Nouveau Casino it's an amazing little club with a really funky vibe.
 
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Won't be heading to France this trip =(
But if I do ever head out that way, I'll pm you and get the address again haha. Cheers mate =)

I agree completely student, as a rather extreme case my gf (who is 3 years older than me, and had been doing biccies/whippa longer and more consistently than me when I met her) had no idea.
I also had to teach her how speed is amphetamines but in australia is usually just meth. Also I had to teach her the difference between MDMA, MDA and other RC's and explain what bics and caps could contain.

This isn't her being an idiot she was just never fed the information or as naturally curious or suspicious as me, trusting what her friends said and having good times. It's pretty hard to get into trouble when most of your friends are doing it too and you hear about horror stories and bad pills early on in their release. She still won't test her pills, but now she listens to me and pretty much only me (and some of my more drug educated friends) when it comes to what she puts in her body.

Just not enough info going around to my generation

Edit: I should note that I'm obviously biased, but she is a smart girl. She's a manager and keeps up in any conversation quite well, this isn't a case of her being some airhead.
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This is exactly what I'm referring to. Also funny you said that about the doubling, me and my best mate don't go out all that often these days and yet we still fiend so much harder then other people. And when I was out the other week I did double a batman and blue T-star and topped up with a brown peace later. Goes against the HR side of me to mix my pills but I was confident in the peace and T-star and hadn't been out for awhile, point being I still easily could of had a couple more bics, I guess I just love high doses. 200+mg MDMA yummm.
 
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if you posted that in ED you would be abused for being reckless and not following the lame three month 'rule'.
 
I'm not going to lie, most of those rules seem to be a pile of shit.
Last weekend I started off my night tripling the peaces, taking a trance (180mg) a little later, and some whippa. Sure I had a rough tuesday but after a year or so of abusing md I'm seeing none of the long term affects.
And this is coming from a diagnosed bipolar, with panic attack disorder, if anything I've found since I've started smashing MD I've felt consistently better, its the only drug outside of xanax thats been able to help me keep my panic attacks under control.

As I said previously recently I've tried to have more of a break and I've only touched MD (and bics) in the last 3 months once, combining with a healthy lifestyle and good diet I feel great.

Finally, I did double the imps when they were around (were they 6-ABP?) and had a great night. I personally know of two guys who quad'd (!) the rockets when they were around, I feel many people on the net are just looking for excuses for sympathy and blaming the drugs for other issues. I know many people who abuse certain drugs far more than anyone in ED and they're fine, test your shit and don't do drugs if you're in a bad mental state its pretty easy.

Edit: I in no way condone doses like this, I have ruined my tolerance through abuse. These are pills I've tested (or heard about from trusted sources) and slowly worked my way up to these dosages. If you're smart about not redosing and not going out every week (or twice a week!) you should never need more than 1 or two good pills for a night
 
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Please remember prices are not allowed either...

Lovepsychadelics, I see no reason why pictures of some of these RC tablets would do any harm and could be helpful, I don't know if they routinely change the pills and markings because I have never really been in the RC scene but even if they were outdated some older shit could still be circulating. Just ensure that there is absolutely no indication where they came from. I haven't spoken to the other mods about this so there is a chance one of them may have an objection that I do not, or otherwise think of an issue that I haven't, so if you go ahead with it before I hear from them you do run the slight risk of it being removed.

DigitalLove I can guarantee if you keep abusing MDMA that you will see bad effects from it, it can take longer for negatives to set in for some people than others but trust me thousands of people are not making this shit up. I don't really see how it is intelligent or helpful to go passing judgement on a bunch of people just because you have not experienced what they have, you do get that drugs affect everyone differently right? It also seems a tad off for the guy who says he has Bipolar, panic disorder and has been abusing MDMA to tell others how "easy" it is not to do drugs in a bad mental state... Also, I strongly encourage people test their pills as it is MUCH safer but as has been highlighted in this thread recently unless you have all the reagents (which is pretty damn uncommon in my experience!) then it is far from fool proof, I don't say this to discourage people from testing their pills or otherwise diminish the role that reagent kits have played in HR over the years, but to imply that if you test your pills everything and don't do drugs in a bad mind state then everything will be dandy is just wrong.
 
I'll await your reply before posting. They look a little like the brown bicardi's cookies n cream but without the logo and look really well pressed like a pharmaceutical with a back score. No image on them just blank, looks like a crystalline substance in the tablets but may be some additive not real sure. These are not mdma but rather 5eapb.
 
^ I'm good with it, I don't like people being tricked into buying what they say is the goods.

All these pills are really changing the whole aspect of the basic pill (and what the general populous believes is the good old MDMA).

It's causing a lot of confusion for the younger generation and anyone 'new' embarking on a wicked night out.

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DigitalLove I can guarantee if you keep abusing MDMA that you will see bad effects from it, it can take longer for negatives to set in for some people than others but trust me thousands of people are not making this shit up. I don't really see how it is intelligent or helpful to go passing judgement on a bunch of people just because you have not experienced what they have, you do get that drugs affect everyone differently right? It also seems a tad off for the guy who says he has Bipolar, panic disorder and has been abusing MDMA to tell others how "easy" it is not to do drugs in a bad mental state... Also, I strongly encourage people test their pills as it is MUCH safer but as has been highlighted in this thread recently unless you have all the reagents (which is pretty damn uncommon in my experience!) then it is far from fool proof, I don't say this to discourage people from testing their pills or otherwise diminish the role that reagent kits have played in HR over the years, but to imply that if you test your pills everything and don't do drugs in a bad mind state then everything will be dandy is just wrong.
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DigitalLove, have we had this conversation before? I'm being lazy and not looking back many pages here, I will soon.

D_M is spot on here about abusing MDMA, I too was young and I thought all these 'rules' where bullshit. It's not.

That is something I will strongly regret for the rest of my life.
 
Double dropping pills and more and generally smashing pills these days is just fucking stupid in my books. No fucking HR in saying shit like that.

How about have a decent break, and get a pill and test it up and research it and have a good time. Otherwise save your money and brain cells for when decent shit comes up. I find some of the comments on this thread and the ice thread fucking over the top, good way to fuck your selves up. Take some time and moderate your usage. Stay sane and on top of life as much as possible. Shit's real, people get fucked up from abusing drugs too hard. Have a good time, but dont over do it and 'go hard and smash pills and meth' cos all your mates do that. Fuck them.

If you really moderate your use of any drug and REALLY space it out, when you have some eventually it will hit you so much more, you wont need 3, one decent pill or two for a long night partying, spaced out should be fine. People double dropping or more at once are asking for trouble in my books. Why mess with your life and health and be so risky? Go look at ED and all the cases there who have fucked themselves up hard, there's always loads of people on there saying how MDMA use has ruined their lives (although with some of them I doubt lots of the stuff they have taken has actually been mdma) and lots of them double and triple drop, people like that just seem so irresponsible.
 
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Yes I have asked about the effects before, I'm not trying to say that the amount I've been taking recently is in anyway reasonable. I've actually made a promise to most of my good friends that after last weekend, my 'break' was in no way good enough. I plan to use MD at an upcoming festival and then after will be steering clear (hopefully!) for at least 3 or 4 months.

My comments were more aimed at the crowds of people I've seen in ED who claim 'I did ecstasy once, I've been depressed for months' and the like. Abusers get whats coming to them, I'm already seeing the effects on how the drug hits me, I'd hate to see the effects of it in my day to day life. It's these other people who make out ecstasy to be some horror drug when it seems like many would have taken untested pills or have previous conditions, most of the research I've seen and my own anecdotal evidence points to it being relatively harmless as long as you don't abuse it (as is any drug!).

I'm going to be straight up and say that I did start abusing bics when I realised that the feeling I got while on them, let me deal with my panic attacks. I used to get them while drunk and completely freak out, do real damage to my life. I know it triggers them sometimes but when I'm on them I feel so good I can use my techniques to calm myself down, and from this experience I've been trying to take them over to my sober life (with varying degrees of success).

My point isn't 'go out and double drop because what you read was wrong', my point was that I feel like people are being very quick to blame their limited experiences with ecstasy on shit that it probably isn't responsible for.
I concede that you never really know how a drug will affect anyone, but the disproportionate amount I find on ED compared to research and in real life leaves a bad taste in my mouth. People should be smart and practice smart HR, like not redosing (especially not multiple times) and giving their body a break to not end up with my tolerance. Smart use seems safe in my eyes

Ecstasy use has (in my eyes at least) helped my life, one of my closest friends has always said to me that we take a happy glow from it with us and I've always believed him.
 
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These are the 5 eapb pellets/pills. These are from just 1 batch and different sources may produce different colored or slightly different shaped pills/pellets, the key is they will be similar shape/size as these and of same standard of press with no identifiable logo. These tablets apparently contain 120 mg 5 eapb. These are NOT MDMA and are a relatively unknown RC. There are trip reports detailing unwanted and unpleasant reactions to doses of 200 mg + (just google 5 eapb). Some experiences have positive reports but the higher doses seem to bring increased risk of adverse effects.

I will say that 5APB, 6APB, and 5 MAPB are enjoyable if taken in the correct dosage. 5 EAPB at 120 mg was not nearly as enjoyable as 6 APB or even 5 APB. 5APDB was quite sedating even stoning and 200 mg taken in 2 100 mg doses was uncomfortable. 5 APB was slightly more stimulating than 6 APB but 6 APB felt very similar to MDA but effects lasted 6 hours +. 5 APB last longer around the 7-8 hours before baseline. 5 MAPB is not as stimulating as 5 apb or 6 apb but more trippy than say 6 apb. Half life seems similar at around 6 hours.
 
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Yeah they are quite fun. AMT is a bit crazy though or at least I go crazy, making "snow angels" on some random carpet and dancing like a loon! A good MDMA alternative but higher doses can be VERY MESSY. I had 250mg (262 mg when weighed) took out a few 25 mg doses and weighed out 125 mg (I kept the 125 mg for another occasion). So I had around 62 mg left had a taste. I thought well I've done up to 50 mg before and it was fun although intense I'll just do the rest. Couldn't walk properly I was tripping that hard from 62 mg (approximate). Walls and floors moving just full on. Stick to 25-35 mg doses for nights out and only 1 dose as it takes a while to kick in but it lasts way longer than MDMA. Stimulating, psychedelic, empathogenic. Makes me sweat a bit though. As far as RC's go it's been around for a while and was used as an antidepressant in Russia/formner USSR so it's got a long history of human use and is quite safe.
 
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yeh its been around for ages it was kesey or cassady that called it the rolls royce of psychedelics back in the 60s/70s. i think it and mescaline are up there on the to do list.
 
Mescaline makes me puke hard, especially if naturally extracted, just seems to be the drug itself. I don't puke on many things but mescaline makes me puke buckets. Puked a couple of times on MDxx as an example but usually cause I'd downed it with soft drink and I'd get all gaseous, blurghhh... Mescaline extract is an easy and fun hobby for those budding home chemists although the boiling down into a drink method is an ordeal on the taste buds! You will puke from the taste alone. If your going "natural" with your mescaline (which is the only 100% guarantee your getting mescaline) recommend some kind of extraction being performed and relatively pure alkaloid content achieved and this is not an overly difficult process, the taste is really that bad. Alternatively you can eat the green part of the cacti and it's not that bad to taste but it's really slimy tough texture is a bit of a downer, that and having to eat a bucket full. The things we do lol.
 
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has anyone tried molly at low dose levels? im thinking about seeing what its like at around and the 60mg or so level.
 
Yeah mate plenty,

Low dose for me just gives me a long comeup sesation to finally get nowhere, never end up actually rolling. No waves of euphoria, just a bit a empathy and mongyness

Either jump right in (100mg-150mg) or dont bother imo

Or better yet put 125mg up youe pooper for a real fun time
 
^It's mellow, and kind of a waste in my opinion. Feel free to try and you'll get a light buzz, but all you'll be thinking is that you should've had a higher dose
 
Butterflies and no roll, would be good for a chill session in the middle of the day or something I guess. Not really worth it IMO
 
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