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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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junkie skumbag said:
i agree the clear looking stuff that looks sooo much like meth I smoke a tiny bit to make sure and it tasted rank all I needed was 120mg tally bomb and I was dancing around and chatting to everyone they were all my best friend the white stuff would be 2nd on the list 150mg smashed me for ages and I felt fine the day after I've had the clear and white I takes me 150mg to get where I want to and it feels quite munty almost dirty and the day after I don't feel all that good...ill post some of the clear rocks I got out. Of a white powdered bag with lots of clear rocks ill post a pic later today cus I have access to the PC and ill get the photos off my phone...might have a video of me dancing like a spaz when I was peaking at the last doof ;)
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Agree 100% the clear stuff looks exactly like meth. The only difference is just a slight, almost indiscernible pinkish tint in the light (note this is not a discoloration were the crystals are pink in color), almost can't notice it unless you look real hard at the crystals (stare at them) and the light has to hit them just right even then to see it. The MD porn posted one page back must have had the light (flash?) hit it just right or it was not 100% washed and a tiny pink discoloration was present. MDP-2-P + methylamine-> intermediate imine + H2O-> MDMA. (Preparation of MDMA by reductive amination with sodium borohydride Rhodim 2004) Turning clear to red upon heating indicates that this slight discoloration is present even in clear crystals that look like meth. Have a real hard look guys next time you get clear MD shards it's almost impossible to see.

Any yellow discoloration is caused by impurities present. When you crystallize anything that’s colorless, which methylamine crystals are,they usually come out with a yellow tinge because of impurities. I'd hate to think what is in the black. Mercury is a byproduct of one MD synthesis when the MDP2P is catalyzed and converted to MD (without going to much into synthesis). Scummy drug makers will often not wash/purify their gear enough (lose of weight and profit). Black is a no go zone probably got mercury byproduct in it as it has not been properly purified. Oldred3s What possessed you to consume the black stuff? eeewww yuck! I'm sure you never have consumed the black stuff since, lesson learnt my friend :).
 
lovepsychadelics said:
Agree 100% the clear stuff looks exactly like meth. The only difference is just a slight, almost indiscernible pinkish tint in the light (note this is not a discoloration were the crystals are pink in color), almost can't notice it unless you look real hard at the crystals (stare at them) and the light has to hit them just right even then to see it. The MD porn posted one page back must have had the light (flash?) hit it just right or it was not 100% washed and a tiny pink discoloration was present. MDP-2-P + methylamine-> intermediate imine + H2O-> MDMA. (Preparation of MDMA by reductive amination with sodium borohydride Rhodim 2004) Turning clear to red upon heating indicates that this slight discoloration is present even in clear crystals that look like meth. Have a real hard look guys next time you get clear MD shards it's almost impossible to see.

Any yellow discoloration is caused by impurities present. When you crystallize anything that’s colorless, which methylamine crystals are,they usually come out with a yellow tinge because of impurities. I'd hate to think what is in the black. Mercury is a byproduct of one MD synthesis when the MDP2P is catalyzed and converted to MD (without going to much into synthesis). Scummy drug makers will often not wash/purify their gear enough (lose of weight and profit). Black is a no go zone probably got mercury byproduct in it as it has not been properly purified. Oldred3s What possessed you to consume the black stuff? eeewww yuck! I'm sure you never have consumed the black stuff since, lesson learnt my friend :).
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It only looked black in the ball. Literally a ball of MDMA that was round like a ball.
When crushed down it was brown/tanned.
I got the ball for a friend. She had a point and couldn't see as her eyes were dancing around in her head and she was old school munted. She was all over me calling me my best friend and she love me and shit (strictly friend zone chick, wasn't keen on her even tho she was pretty hot And I have a mrs).
She gave me a couple of points for getting it for her and I had a point. The 2 points she gave me were brown in colour
I was drunk and ate it. It was a couple years back. I have gotten off the same guy I got the ball off a few times back then and each time the gear got better and more pure.
 
I see so it was not black as such but dark tan. From a HR standpoint black would be a big no go zone as I mentioned. MDA often is more tan in coloration than MDMA as a side note. Alcohol and MDMA never mix well in my experience often leading to excessive nausea and vomiting. I'm glad it was tan not black because it set alarm bells ringing. Cheers for posting on your experience and clarifying that Oldred3s!
 
Why lick them? If they are any good should be able to smell them. Licking random pills at a festival probably not the best HR technique.
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Smell is not a reliable indicator of anything. I agree that many a good pill might smell a certain way but it must be remembered that there could be bad pills that smell in much the same way and fantastic pills made with 99% pure MDMA that don't smell at all (pure MDMA, just like pure MA does NOT smell).

Mercury is a byproduct of one MD synthesis when the MDP2P is catalyzed and converted to MD (without going to much into synthesis).
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An aluminium-mercury amalgam is used as a catalyst to convert the MDMA-imine (the product which is produced when MD-P2P is reacted with methylamine) into MDMA. I don't accept that this method is used in large scale manufacture. Regardless, any chemist who has got this far should not end up with mercury in the final product if they care about what they are manufacturing.
 
Biscuit said:
Smell is not a reliable indicator of anything. I agree that many a good pill might smell a certain way but it must be remembered that there could be bad pills that smell in much the same way and fantastic pills made with 99% pure MDMA that don't smell at all (pure MDMA, just like pure MA does NOT smell).
An aluminium-mercury amalgam is used as a catalyst to convert the MDMA-imine (the product which is produced when MD-P2P is reacted with methylamine) into MDMA. I don't accept that this method is used in large scale manufacture. Regardless, any chemist who has got this far should not end up with mercury in the final product if they care about what they are manufacturing.
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How many dodgy fucker do you think care? Quick wash to flush the worst of it and off to the punters. A good manufacturer will produce at worst yellow discolored crystals

please note: I agree had some insane well pressed pills and 0 odour thing is they looked like proper press at say 20 ton. Thats 20 ton compressing each bikky with a premeasured 150 mg. Know your source. So that justifies licking pills that look like second rate press jobs is a harm reduction strategy.
 
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Smell wouldn't help you unless you're a dog, even then you couldn't speak the language translatable to humans, so you'd be like "woof, drugs bitch"

Not good, so like yeah unless you get a testing kit you don't know fo' sho!


Have a beer and test your gear <3
 
What the fuck are you talking about 'MDMA is never powder'- YOU CANNOT IDENTIFY ANYTHING USING SIGHT/SMELL/TASTE/CONSISTANCY!!

Positively identifying a CHEMICAL involves CHEMISTRY. HOLYMOTHERUFKCINGSHITBBQ!!!oneone1!!

If you're not regent testing you deserve whatever the fuck you get. I have personal witnessed people recrystallizing large amounts of methylone with a couple of adulterants (MDMC- what 90% of you will be getting 90% of the time, regardless of what you say) to yield huge, beautiful crystals. I'm talking 5g crystals. People raved about the 'high quality MDMA' they were getting when it was just recrystallized methylone that they had been buying for the last 6 months. Oh, it was dyed orange...that was the other thing. Everyone knows orange = MDMA right? Ugh, fuckwits. But then again, if you can be fooled into buying methylone over MDMA you deserve to pay through the nose for methylone.

Crystals are often crushed up for the purposes of smuggling and powders are commonly recrystallized to make them more appealing to consumers.

Oh and if you're getting huge, angular crystals of MDMA it's been purposefully cut with this shit...magnesium something, I can't remember- to allow you to grow massive quarter ounce crystals.

RACEMIC MDMA (and no, you will NEVER see d-MDMA so don't even mention it) DOES NOT FORM LARGE ANGULAR CRYSTALS! THE BEST YOU CAN EVER GET WITHOUT ADULTERATION IS SMALLISH, FLAT, SQUAREISH CRYSTALS!

All this bullshit about powder vs 'crystal' MDMA (I mean, methylone- all of it's methylone unless you can present me with positive regent tests, done properly- ALL OF THEM, including robadope even though you need to sacrifice over 150mg to conduct it properly) is all marketing and psychosomatic bullshit. Dealers aren't stupid, recrystallization is easy and 90% of consumers will assume that crystalline = legit, which is COMPLETE bullshit.

I have no doubt you'll all disagree with me and give a thousand reasons why I'm wrong. I'm not. MDMA users are consistently the least educated drug users, which is why MDMA is the ONLY drug to be sold in pre-pressed mystery pills. You guys are as bad as the old hippies who claim 'real LSD' hasn't been made since the 1960s.
 
Magnesium striate? Also MDMA is a crystal just like methamphetamine is a crystal. Haha positive tests? You can easily fool a test kit. GCMS is the only reliable test kit in all honesty. I don't use MDMA and have not for a long time. There is a web site entitled "bunk police" http://bunkpolice.org/mdma-identification-guide/ with lovely pictures etc. Yes recrystallization is very easy. Why argue with someone so knowledgeable and with no doubt decades of experience such as yourself. I agree an eztest kit is a laugh. Why would I bother with MDMA when the magic vanished some 10 years ago? Are you aware that 50 mls of saffrole oil makes some 1000 pills? (At least from memory and we know what good old Molly does to memory) Much easier to smuggle oil than premade powder and both are just as easily detected by dogs.

Also NZ is notorious as having the shitest most adulterated drugs on the face of the planet... excluding BZP when it was legal over there and made up the majority of Australian pills. Psychosomatic marketing? As I stated I don't use MDMA and really have not since my late teens early 20's. Check some of my other posts regarding methamphetamine and recrystallization with impurities causing discoloration lol. Hahaha thanks for posting limonov you have made my day and best of all I do not disagree with anything you have posted except your condescending attitude which I am also guilty of... 2 peas in a pod?

A little exert from "bunk police": Highly refined MDMA is a somewhat translucent white. It can have very light purple hues to it in larger crystalline forms. Avoid anything yellow, red, green or brown if possible. This may signify a lacking chemical process or potential adulteration. Clandestine chemists can realize up to a 40% higher output if they skip the last wash or two, leaving a discolored and impure sample full of chemical precursors.

*It should be noted that there is a widely distributed brown substance referred to as “sass” which is sold as MDMA or MDA. In multiple instances, this substance has tested positive for MDMA in GC/MS testing. After referencing multiple different sources, it is in the opinion of our group that “sass” is a lacking synthesis of MDMA leaving a large percentage of precursor chemicals. Thanks "bunk police" ;)! Now for a dirty great line of some "sass" followed up by some BZP and TFMPP with a nightcap of 4-MEC to follow. Honestly though guys and girls check out "bunk police". As for the crystals If your making a few ounces of MDMA I guess you may end up with a quarter ounce crystal, which is not really all that much when your talking industrial scale manufacturing.

What the fuck is orange? On your Eztest kit? A reagent test kit will identify an orange colour as a cathinone derivative on a Mecke. The subjective effects of the two substances are easily distinguishable once ingested. To quote "Ugh, fuckwits." Get a couple of test kits people I never said you should not test your gear but if you are in a festival and do not have access to said kits I guess licking is as reliable as any. MDMA and Etoh... lovely my stomach is churning just thinking about that. Thanks for taking a bite guys you are 2 easy.

I believe not having access to a test kit was a given as people are/were discussing pills bought at festivals etc. or if they do for whatever reason they do not have access to said test kits. ALWAYS TEST YOUR GEAR if you have access to test kits I have never stated that shit should not be tested but I am saying that people who do not have access to test kits for whatever reason should be very careful about what the substance looks like or smells like. Mandalin, Mecke and a Marquis should be a minimum. That said not everyone has access to these items at all times. My HR advice is don't buy pills in a festival period. 5 grams of 4-MEC recrystallized or MDMA? The real question in my mind is who gives a shit? Obviously people who like to do MDMA might but I don't. I post here for the sake of HR... mostly and also for getting a few bites. :) Now to wash down all that "sass", BZP, TFMPP and 4-MEC with some vodka aka Etoh. Loud vomiting noises emit from bathroom...
 
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qweasdzxc said:
Hey guys, been a while for me to get back on here. But does anyone know where I can get ez tests in Melbourne?
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Hi I'm sure some Happy high herbs stores still sell them at least in some of there stores. Try online as well. Unfortunately it seems that these kit's are not being sold as freely as they have in the past. Also some places that were selling them when asked gave me a vague reply saying that various state governments may be trying to stop the sale of such items. Not sure if this is correct but I'm positive you can still order them online.
 
Man, accidentally crushed half a pill, luckily it was in a small plastic bag (one of those really small ones). Went out with friends not intending to take it, but ended up doing it later on, just chucked it in water and drank it. It was around 3am and around 3:30 all my friends wanted to go home so we left the place and went to the casino to hang around. It kicked in around 3:50 and let me tell you, it was the worst experience I've ever had, lucky it was only half a pill so the effects weren't that extreme. But you could feel the come up and can't really do anything about it so I was left walking around trying to pretend like I wasn't on anything since security was everywhere. But yeah, last time I'm ever leaving it to the last minute to have it.
 
Captain Brewster said:
but the dead set truth is, anything could have in that half a pill.
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This^

Last year in Australia late last year because someone ate a single pill and another was comatosed off of a half. And others got very sick too. Facebook press last year, evil pill, can't believe the contents never got revealed to the public.
 
tentram said:
have the eztest folks finally got their shit together with stock and actually sending the orders out?
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yeah i've received some not that long ago got my order in like a week maybe a bit more.....there fuckin ampuls tho i hate them.they are more convenient i guess if you want to test out at a festival or something but yeah you only get 1 test to a amp and i've cut myself on the glass more than once....i'd much rather the bottles but if im out at a doof or something its easier to just slip a little bit of crystal or pill in the amp and give it a shake rather than finding a white plate and careful dropping on there also someone could get acid on themselfs and out in the bush thats not good.its not good at home either but atleast i have vinegar at home to stop the acid burning......and %100 agree with the last posts.with the ammount of RC's going around these days you could be putting some sort of psychadelic into your body expecting a MDMMA/speed buzz.leme tell you having a psych while expecting a nice mdma high can be quite a mind fuck even for the experienced user.....even with the mdma crystals these days you cant be too sure better to be safe than sorry cus once you've dropped that pill theres no going back and your either going to have to ride it out or go to the hospitable if its a dirty pill.and i remember reading about those facebook pills they were nasssssstttyyyyyyyy almost like who ever pressed them intentionally wanted to harm/kill people and those people selling them should be fucking shot!dirty dogs need to be put down :!
 
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Anybody know what was in the Red apple macs which went around melbourne around feb-april? I have a feeling they're some sort of 2c-x compound, as they made me and most of my friends trip the hell out.
Know someone who loved them and is looking for something similar. Also anyone have experience on 2c's?
 
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