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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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The Wire and Oz are both awesome shows, especially The Wire, one of very few shows I watched all the way through twice (with a year or two apart though). From ages like 17-20 it was very common to refer to people in my group of friends as "prag", particularly if they had just been submitted by someone in the group or performed an act of subservience. Still got a couple mates that might throw it out from time to time but it used to be dead common. I feel as though The Wire depicts drugs pretty fairly but there is quite a bit of bullshit in the way they are used in Oz, particularly some single instances of drug use as opposed to the more common use of heroin or "tits".
 
Fucked up years back taking too much MDxx (mostly in pill form as not much crystal MDMA going around back then) during the 90's (1997-2000) and it took me 2 full years to recover my sanity. I went from trying a pill around 95 to using once a month around 98. This was followed by regular use of 2-4 pills every weekend or second weekend from around 99 till 2000. Eventually I realised I was drug fried from my E use and from 2000-2002 I was not the full quid. Didn't end up depressed then but have had issues with transient low level depression on and off for the last decade. I think that for most people very occasional use every few months for a festival or quality DJ at a good club is ok . As for myself I have pretty much not used MDxx since then, just on the odd occasion and at say 100-120 mgs of crystal. Used to be my drug of choice but have not had any in over a year as I just don't care for the stuff anymore. My honeymoon is well and truly over.
 
Anyone with experience ( or knowledge) with both 4mmc and mdma, what is it a good/safest ratio for a combo?

was thinking of dosing (orally) separately as well. so 100mg threshold dose of mdma followed by 200mg 4mmc an hour later. No redoses for either substances.
 
That dose will be fine, it will just be a bit more rushy then having MD alone. But it's not a great combo, they don't amplify each other as much as you'd hope from my experience.
 
Heard from a friend that the staves/sonics/rockets etc aren't actually MDxx pills. I previously had thought they were MDA, but he told me that they are some other new synthetic something with just enough MDxx to fool test kits. Which apparently is why A) Everyone is finding them so strong and B) They're flooring people for way longer than a usual MDxx roll.

Not sure how truthful this is as he may or may not have a vested interest in their rep but he is my friend and he did seem concerned and told me to make sure I take it easy on them. That no one knows how using them often affects you.

Edit: Also does anyone know anything about green ladies? If they're like the blue ladies from early this year I'd be keen
 
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I think staves/sonics/rockets are just MDxx to be honest. Probably just flooring so many people cause they've been used to the rubbish that had been pressed in the previous 4 years. But it would be good if someone could send one to ecstasydata so we could find out the exact contents.
 
I thought it was interesting, as I didn't really feel the effects that hugely but I definitely felt the effects for much longer than I usually do with MDxx. I'd be pretty keen for a lab test too, not sure how safe it is to munch them in large numbers
 
Heard from a friend that the staves/sonics/rockets etc aren't actually MDxx pills. I previously had thought they were MDA, but he told me that they are some other new synthetic something with just enough MDxx to fool test kits. Which apparently is why A) Everyone is finding them so strong and B) They're flooring people for way longer than a usual MDxx roll.

Not sure how truthful this is as he may or may not have a vested interest in their rep but he is my friend and he did seem concerned and told me to make sure I take it easy on them. That no one knows how using them often affects you.


Edit: Also does anyone know anything about green ladies? If they're like the blue ladies from early this year I'd be keen

High level dose of quality MDMA can really fuck you up, mostly in a good way. There was a picture taken of an individual... cough cough, who had dropped 1 and 1/2 CK golds around 99. They were utterly fried. Sweating like all hell and had just spent the entire come up glued to a couch in the club with a gigantic grin plastered on his face. After the come up he was so in love with the music he just HAD TO DANCE. Photo was taken around this time with an old school Polaroid camera. Messy! Well and truly baked, scrambled and fried. Oh and just 1 more pill was dropped so was well and truly fried from 9 pm till 5 am, although coming down began at say 4 am...
 
Have you guys seen vines ? They're short clips (meant to be humorous)

I had an idea...

*camera faces me* - 'ecstasy in Australia be like...'
*camera faces a "dealer" friend* - 'don't double drop man, I promise these are stronger than the last batch. Don't -double - drop!!'
*camera faces me again as I shrug and take just one pill*
*que blank screen saying 1 hour later - then my face looking bored and glum*
*que blank screen saying 2 hours later with my face still looking bored and glum*
*camera faces me* - FUCK!!

End of vine
 
Have you guys seen vines ? They're short clips (meant to be humorous)

I had an idea...

*camera faces me* - 'ecstasy in Australia be like...'
*camera faces a "dealer" friend* - 'don't double drop man, I promise these are stronger than the last batch. Don't -double - drop!!'
*camera faces me again as I shrug and take just one pill*
*que blank screen saying 1 hour later - then my face looking bored and glum*
*que blank screen saying 2 hours later with my face still looking bored and glum*
*camera faces me* - FUCK!!

End of vine

end note of the movie *the pills you had were bunk stick to MDMA crystal :p

LP that 2nd video reminds me sooooooo much of how i walk under the influence of MXE...reminds me of the first time i tried MXE and having to go into a servo to pay for fuel......i was not driving or else i'd be warped around a tree
 
That dose will be fine, it will just be a bit more rushy then having MD alone. But it's not a great combo, they don't amplify each other as much as you'd hope from my experience.

Thanks. Went with the combo anyways. with a little bit of an addition (didn't really plan on it). The combo was 100-120mg mdma + 180-200mg mephedrone tab + 75 mg mdma tab. each with 1.5 hr spaced out.

It was a pretty intense experience. Although. it's been day 4 days now since ingestion, and to be honest, I'm experiencing some adverse side effects (at least more than usual during recuperation). Again, IME I usually never mix the two substances. But today has gotten down to a new low (emotionally). Extreme sense of sadness and demotivated. Accompanied by strange nausea (akin to what one would describe vertigo?) and eye pressure. Earlier today I felt like vomiting and loss of appetite too. In fact I almost broke down crying on the bus to work and was wiping tears off my face during my appointments. It could have been the situation I was in. Long story short, I met someone while I was at a concert show, under the influence of the two substances. One thing led to another and she ended up at my place. We watched a movie, cuddled, and fell asleep. I never made a move, and I believe I might have thrown myself under the bus into the "friend-zone" voluntarily. This women's birthday was today and I tried contacting her, but she seemed reluctant to respond. There are several moments today that I was actually contemplating suicide and was immersed in so much sadness...I've never cried this much in my life...like what the fuck!? I went for a run, ate my vitamins, downed a big turkey sub, and even ended up taking bong hits......but it doesn't seem like its working.

Is this normal? Please...what should I do ?!
 
Been there pharma, got stuck there for about 10 days after bingeing on mdma and 6apb had about 700mg of both and it just raped my brain.

Just gotta keep ur chin up, i wrote myself a little note saying this will pass and the suffering is temporary.

Also brought some otc high codiene + paracetmol pills ate about 6-8 with a few beers and that would help bliss me out of the aniexty hell i was stuck in.
 
pharma - please don't get strut over one-birch. There are plenty more that are better!

Don't believe in the friend-zone. If it's meant to be it'll happen. When i say friend-zone - i mean, there's no such thing. you can have sex with her if the time is right -- try contacting her again in few/serveral days time.

I had my crush playing me for two months and I've just realized this. She has a BF, even though I thought there was still a chance for us. nope. She was just playing me. It was god awful rolling on mdma at a party with friends - all i could think of was her, and that i wanted to be with her. The next few days and weeks were the worst. Though I got through it, and feel even stronger for going through something like that!

You just have to stay strong. I know it is hard, but you come out of it much stronger.

I don't want to roll again until i meet a girl. That could be years >.<
 
heard from another trusted friend about the sonics/rockets/staves being synthetic. Has no vested interest in this and is very reliable.

Whats good going around melbourne atm? Bats are running out (and weak), want to steer clear of synthetic shit, caps are expensive maybe these teardrops?
 
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