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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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There is deffintly MDEA going around Aus, there was some this time last year aswell which I personally had. It's very rare though, deffintly bk-MDMA floating around aswell. Im not into that scene anymore but there is a high amount of ignorance and extreme lack of knowledge especially in MDxx where I am.

And yeah dealers are puttig whether its trace amounts of MDMA or some other MDxx or different substance to set testers off to fool them as MDMA in the results. As we all know, or should know, testers will only alert you of the presence of a certain subtance, not how much of it is in there nor how much or if there is some other subtance/RC in them as I have learned first hand. I've had pills that have given me better results than clean MDMA pills that turned out to be somethign completely different...
 
how do you know theres mdea floating around? does it test up different to mdma/mda? I wouldnt know personally as im no good with testers
 
There is one tester that can differentiate between MDMA and MDEA, can't remember which one though and its due to something about the secondary amine it can differeentiate in this case whether it is n-methly/ethyl

I have tried MDEA twice which was confirmed by the source and it really isn't that great, it's like a MDMA experience that literally feels heavy bodyload and just munted without as much euphoria and empathy and lots eye wobbles and jaw clenching with quite good CEVs, kinda like MDMA but it lacks a strong magical push to it and feels like something is missing. Along with that, two key things that make it distinguishable from MDMA is the lack of a rolling effect and a peak asell as the duration, the comeup is sublte/gradual like it almost creeps up on you and the peak, well there is no peak its just like a slow built up effect and your gradually up then slowly comming down, no peak really and it just leaves you with a soft afterglow.

A first timer, as I tried it one of my first few times rolling I could easily distinguish it because I knew what I was looking for but it was still a damn good experience and a great night, but a heavy user yeah did it after having an MDMA tolerance it isnt that fun expect to be floored but not in a good way... sort of... but I was abusing it by then. Dont get me wrong, MDEA can still be fun, but much more chilled and less full on than MDMA, also noticed legs will get heavier than MDMA would make them.
 
no offence MrG but im sceptical of the mdea claim myself as from what i understand it is extremely rare around the globe these days. would love to be proved wrong though.
I have tried MDEA twice which was confirmed by the source
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never ever believe a source until you see the test result with your own eyes.

mdma, mda, and that shit imitation bk-mdma is always around but as i say im skeptical about mdea.
 
mate tested up the 'mdma' caps ive been getting for the past year. apparently used a tester that could differentiate mda from mdma. Came up perfect to black mdma reaction with trace of something else (orange reaction). didnt have any problems sleeping after
 
laugh, believe me I was skeptical too n doubt about that! And it doesnt make sense to make it over MDMA, but it is out there, yes. If I ever do come accross it again I wouldn't mind sending it off for lab test results just to confirm my own and anyone elses curiosity
 
Standup said:
mate tested up the 'mdma' caps ive been getting for the past year. apparently used a tester that could differentiate mda from mdma. Came up perfect to black mdma reaction with trace of something else (orange reaction). didnt have any problems sleeping after
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the test kit he would of used its the marquis.....if there is a slight orange color in there i think that could mean there is a amphetamine in there...well IME
 
MrSpeedyG said:
laugh, believe me I was skeptical too n doubt about that! And it doesnt make sense to make it over MDMA, but it is out there, yes. If I ever do come accross it again I wouldn't mind sending it off for lab test results just to confirm my own and anyone elses curiosity
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100 bucks to have powder tested :\ 40 or 50 for a pill,its a fuckin joke if u ask me
 
MrSpeedyG said:
There is one tester that can differentiate between MDMA and MDEA, can't remember which one though and its due to something about the secondary amine it can differeentiate in this case whether it is n-methly/ethyl
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False, no such purchasable test kit exists. This can only be confirmed through Lab testing.

I'm not suprised that MDEA is still made here and there although I stand by my statement of it be considerably rarer. But Cooks/dealers, would sometimes mix some up just for the sake of the change up.
I was thinking about my previous statement of MDMA and MDA being far more popular then MDEA, and I can't remember a single person saying they prefer MDEA. Having said that, right now if I was offered a gram of MDEA to purchase I'd be more inclined to buy it then a gram of MDMA or MDA, purely because I haven't had the chance to differentiate between the three as much as I'd like.

What I'm saying is, people would be likely to buy MDEA so they can decide for themself if they prefer it to MDMA/MDA, so it would make sense to cook a batch everyone once in awhile, but certainly not nearly as regularly as MDMA or MDA.
 
Oops my bad, was getting confused with differentiating MDMA/MDEA from MDA due to the presence of a secondary amine!

MDEA feels less toxic, thats is if you gauge your toxicity by the comedown and days following! It gave me a nice after glow that felt really smooth, honestly, I don't plan on touching any MDxx for a long time but if I did I would love to get my hands on some MDEA over some MDMA/MDA purely for the fact that I actually dont mind it and it didnt leave me feeling fucked up like MDMA does rather its smoother and leaves me a strong after glow and isnt that intense... I've never tried methylone but from what I read its sort of speedyish and dissapears quickly whereas the MDEA I had feels nice and smooth but lasts a while (as in the afterglow is able to be enjoyed).

But yeah as you said, one of the reasons why someone might cook up MDEA is for the sheer fact of the effects do feel different a bit and just to change things up for the people who chew through MDxx but have no clue as to what it is - I'd rather have MDEA than some other RC anyday though.

Without going into chemistry though, is it easier for the body to cleave off an ethyl group over the methyl group at the n-position? If so, I guess it would make sense as to why MDEA gives me more CEV's compared to MDMA?
 
thestudent14 said:
False, no such purchasable test kit exists. This can only be confirmed through Lab testing.

I'm not suprised that MDEA is still made here and there although I stand by my statement of it be considerably rarer. But Cooks/dealers, would sometimes mix some up just for the sake of the change up.
I was thinking about my previous statement of MDMA and MDA being far more popular then MDEA, and I can't remember a single person saying they prefer MDEA. Having said that, right now if I was offered a gram of MDEA to purchase I'd be more inclined to buy it then a gram of MDMA or MDA, purely because I haven't had the chance to differentiate between the three as much as I'd like.

What I'm saying is, people would be likely to buy MDEA so they can decide for themself if they prefer it to MDMA/MDA, so it would make sense to cook a batch everyone once in awhile, but certainly not nearly as regularly as MDMA or MDA.
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So really, its just people guessing its MDEA? Although I dont doubt peoples experiences, I find it odd that a chemist would make MDEA instead of MDMA or MDA? unless for the novelty value
 
Not all chemists have access to all the precursors they would like to 100% of the time and this plays a role in what is produced from time to time. Food for thought when wondering why things pop up that do not otherwise make sense for their existence.
 
I can see a reason why and it does make sense... sorry if this violates the synth rule but a certain something, that will decide whether a certain something becomes ethyl or methly, does not spark up as much interest as the other.

Well people looking to get fucked up on anything, I suppose MDEA could make you more heavy and drunken than what MDMA could make you... personally like I said I would take some MDEA over MDMA just because one i doubt its as neurotoxic and certainly doesnt feel like it and there isnt a comedown, for me anyway, more like a gauranteed smooth ride down that lasts, whereas MDMA can be a smooth ride down into an afterglow but you feel dirtier and more drained and from person to person afterlows may not happen.

But for the average pill head, unless a first timer, no one would even know what their looking for you still can be loved up on it if your new to MDxx as I found.
 
thestudent14 said:
False, no such purchasable test kit exists. This can only be confirmed through Lab testing.

I'm not suprised that MDEA is still made here and there although I stand by my statement of it be considerably rarer. But Cooks/dealers, would sometimes mix some up just for the sake of the change up.
I was thinking about my previous statement of MDMA and MDA being far more popular then MDEA, and I can't remember a single person saying they prefer MDEA. Having said that, right now if I was offered a gram of MDEA to purchase I'd be more inclined to buy it then a gram of MDMA or MDA, purely because I haven't had the chance to differentiate between the three as much as I'd like.

What I'm saying is, people would be likely to buy MDEA so they can decide for themself if they prefer it to MDMA/MDA, so it would make sense to cook a batch everyone once in awhile, but certainly not nearly as regularly as MDMA or MDA.
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So really, its just people guessing its MDEA? Although I dont doubt peoples experiences, I find it odd that a chemist would make MDEA instead of MDMA or MDA? unless for the novelty value
 
MrSpeedyG said:
Oops my bad, was getting confused with differentiating MDMA/MDEA from MDA due to the presence of a secondary amine!

MDEA feels less toxic, thats is if you gauge your toxicity by the comedown and days following! It gave me a nice after glow that felt really smooth, honestly, I don't plan on touching any MDxx for a long time but if I did I would love to get my hands on some MDEA over some MDMA/MDA purely for the fact that I actually dont mind it and it didnt leave me feeling fucked up like MDMA does rather its smoother and leaves me a strong after glow and isnt that intense... I've never tried methylone but from what I read its sort of speedyish and dissapears quickly whereas the MDEA I had feels nice and smooth but lasts a while (as in the afterglow is able to be enjoyed).

But yeah as you said, one of the reasons why someone might cook up MDEA is for the sheer fact of the effects do feel different a bit and just to change things up for the people who chew through MDxx but have no clue as to what it is - I'd rather have MDEA than some other RC anyday though.

Without going into chemistry though, is it easier for the body to cleave off an ethyl group over the methyl group at the n-position? If so, I guess it would make sense as to why MDEA gives me more CEV's compared to MDMA?
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grrrr i dont know why people say MDMA leaves you feeling shit the following days!MDMA should leave you feeling JUST as clean the following days as any MDxx.if you get CLEAN MDMA it will leave you feeling fine the following days
 
junkie skumbag said:
grrrr i dont know why people say MDMA leaves you feeling shit the following days!MDMA should leave you feeling JUST as clean the following days as any MDxx.if you get CLEAN MDMA it will leave you feeling fine the following days
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Agree! Unless you get greedy and neck a g or like 10 bangers. One dose should leave an uplifting afterglow.
 
Yeah I agree, MDMA should leave you feeling fine and with an afterglow, but it won't for everyone and it can depend a lot of how much was dosed and redosing etc.

MDMA used to leave me with a sick afterglow, once you abuse for a while, build up a tolerance... that doesnt happen, you feel drained as fuck during the week, shitty. My point is not everyone is going to just ride off an MDMA high and into a warm afterglow, but we know that.
 
junkie skumbag said:
grrrr i dont know why people say MDMA leaves you feeling shit the following days!MDMA should leave you feeling JUST as clean the following days as any MDxx.if you get CLEAN MDMA it will leave you feeling fine the following days
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I don't really think it is helpful to be spouting stuff like this, just because YOU don't get a comedown from clean MDMA doesn't mean that nobody will. I see SO many people bitching on this site and others how bad hangovers are, yet I find hangovers to be entirely manageable for the most part.

Obviously less clean MDMA is likely to make you feel worse than clean gear is, but for some people (I fall into this category) taking MDMA is guaranteed to leave one feeling shitty for the next couple days. I personally found after I abused MDMA the comedowns started to get a lot worse for me and when I started out I used to wonder wtf people were talking about when they moaned about MDMA comedowns, but have come to find they definately exist!

I don't know why people experience something and automatically assume everyone else in the whole world will experience the same...
 
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