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OND43X the share scale and different types of powders entering the country would make pills easier to detect though. Think about all the paint pigments, chocolate drink mix, plaster of paris, body building mixes etc that would travel through customs that are x rayed and look the same. Pills look like pills and would raise eye brows more quickly. Saying that 100,000 out of 2.5million containers are actually screen at our ports every year. You could print xtc on pils and still have a high chance of getting them through. Intelligence usually busts most imports not detection.


Sadly nearly all pill pressers / distributers are not doing it for love, they are doing it for money. As prices are fairly static, they can raise profits by reducing quantity of MDMA in pills. Not that this is really news to anyone.

I have noticed an slight increase in costs for "good quality" products though. Like any thing market forces will put pressure on even drug dealers. The problem is as a whole, Aussie pill heads are still happy to eat shit so there will always be a market to dish out shit. Perhaps drug users need a union or at the very least a consumer affairs unit with guys carrying pliers. ;)
 
I am a firm believer that that heaps of MDMA that is circulating around Australia is manufactured locally. The overseas chemists see a very lucrative business here so they definitely travel as its worth there time. Sure there is just about the same amount of MDMA imported, mainly crystals though as its easier to conceal as Busty St Clare explained. Pills raise a lot more suspicions compared to say powders/crystals. Pretty sure the majority pills imported are just crushed and repressed with a smaller dose. This increases profits for the organizations or having to import half of what they need to in general. The less pills the easier to import I presume. Its just a logical explanation to why most pills out there contain such a low dose. Most pro chemists produce pills which are highly dosed then may reduce the dosage once the word has gotten out that its really quality or copycats start to appear usually.
 
Im interested in when everyone first tried MDMA?

My first pill was in 1990 and it was a white Dove, I remember thinking I wish Id never taken it because the feeling was too good lol

Yeah nice! Nice to know there's still some old skoolers on here. Mine was 1991 and by 1992 i was into them every weekend if not more, and they were nearly always very strong and if i recall correctly expensive, cant name prices but i can say nearly double what they are now? But well worth the experiences. Doves, Cali whites / splits, purple specs, i wish i could recall them all more clearly. Back then one or two of them would last me a whole night till sunrise and i'd still be feeling great.

In saying that it was the same with LSD, the purple ohms, strawberries, robots, and probably lots more were really really strong, i've had a heap in the last 10 years and not many have come close, maybe its me tho and a tolerance thing, or age i dunno.
 
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Yeah nice! Nice to know there's still some old skoolers on here. Mine was 1991 and by 1992 i was into them every weekend if not more, and they were nearly always very strong and if i recall correctly expensive, cant name prices but i can say nearly double what they are now? But well worth the experiences. Doves, Cali whites / splits, purple specs, i wish i could recall them all more clearly. Back then one or two of them would last me a whole night till sunrise and i'd still be feeling great.

In saying that it was the same with LSD, the purple ohms, strawberries, robots, and probably lots more were really really strong, i've had a heap in the last 10 years and not many have come close, maybe its me tho and a tolerance thing, or age i dunno.


MDMA and LSD was definitely way stronger many many years ago than now days. I guess thats what happens when supply cant meet demands? I had my first pill 1999. Was rolling so hard off half. Def not a tolerance thing, they were way stronger hehe. I dont use them no where as much as I used to and with no tolerance it still isnt the same.
 
i had my first taste of MDMA just before i turned 16 in like 2007-2008 it wasnt a pill tho it was a cap filt about half way up with a white powder and the odd blue spec.Im sure it was cut with speed as i was veryyyy energetic but yeah i still did roll very had n had good fun.I wasnt able to score pressed pills til about 6 months later some of the first pills i had were green squirrels,blue scorpions,green fredo frogs.all of them were really good and didnt need more than 2 in a night to have a good time.theeen the MD content started dropping in the pills,pink mighty mouse's (needed a good 3-4 to have a goood night) pink VW's (went through 7 in 1 night) ect ect then they went to total shit,white doves (BZP+TMFPP) orange radio actives (maaaasive dose of pipes)
 
Been getting these babies recently. About time perth has got decent pills. Anyone else been lucky enough to get em?
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Been getting these babies recently. About time perth has got decent pills. Anyone else been lucky enough to get em?
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nah but i've been told good story's about them,pretty sure there was some circulating the doof on last weekend but i was munching on beige/browinsh planes 3 of them had me rolling into the next day.along with some other goodies ;) enjoy u lucky fucker
 
I had one of these on the weekend. After having a few beers and smoking a cone of marijuana, I genuinely believe it was the first time I truly embraced the experience since my first ever time in late 2008. :)
 
Yeah nice! Nice to know there's still some old skoolers on here. Mine was 1991 and by 1992 i was into them every weekend if not more, and they were nearly always very strong and if i recall correctly expensive, cant name prices but i can say nearly double what they are now? But well worth the experiences. Doves, Cali whites / splits, purple specs, i wish i could recall them all more clearly. Back then one or two of them would last me a whole night till sunrise and i'd still be feeling great.

In saying that it was the same with LSD, the purple ohms, strawberries, robots, and probably lots more were really really strong, i've had a heap in the last 10 years and not many have come close, maybe its me tho and a tolerance thing, or age i dunno.


Kroniic, did your mate eat 10 in one mouthful? THats silly!!! I had mates like that and they did silly things too, like I knew my best mates in the 90's said to me, no one can tell me what its like to eat 10 pills in a night so they did it themselves plus added a shitload more!!! They would and i saw them go thru up to 30 in a night at a clubeach, the most famous club of the 90's on pitt st and these were no weak ass things(cali whites and Splits), although weaker than others that were going around, they were munted is an understatement but alot of it is also in your head, if you have a strong mind you can do anything!!! I would never try it, the most i ever had after breaking up with my GF, was 13 in a night and i can barely remember what we did to this day.

Cool thread. I remember all those pills!!! I had my first one in 96 and it was a white dove followed by a white moon at FOD4, OMFG the best night of my life to date!!!! I was walking on air, had some awesome ones too following this, like Double pressed Emails@, Suns, more Doves, New Yorkers, J.A(tiny tiny little pill)but OMG!!!, Green Specs, Sex Symbols, Twins, Green Mitsos(OMG), white Mitsos(OMG),007's, crowns(3point and rolex), mtv's, and so many more!!! just add Mitsos would come on out of nowhere then exactly 3hrs later just plain stop!!! So Great!!!, then Red HQ's, then it was nearly 2000 and the song "THe drugs dont work came out and pills started to go downhill!!! Too many imports from 2000 got crushed and repressed weaker and i stopped for a few years til about 2004 and consumed them here and there,every 4 months or so til about 2007, when i had the famous hearts from then, also had some weaker ones clean but weak, like purple spade in the shape of a card, purple e's and 007's monsters inc, vw's. I had a break and started again in 2010 getting caps and very weak ones until last year when they came back with the Yin Yangs and Mitsos and today hearts again. THey were NO DOUBT much much stronger in the 90's!!! I wish all you guys that have just started could experience the absolute love that can be on this drug, its more than a fucked feeling it is pure love!!! i know you feel it but nothing like you can if the pills were like they are in AMsterdam!!!!

I remember all those trips too, although im not a big fan i remember them and Sydney 2000's and Fingers, and a few others not worth mentioning. If your brain is not strong i would not recommend Candy Flipping!!! I did it at a stage in my life when my brain was emotinally weak and i convulsed for 3hrs spewing driving myself to Westmead hospital until i straightened out but thats another interesting story.....
 
My first was in 96. I think it was a CD. It was white and was VERY well pressed! I can vouch for the imported pills (200mg MDMA) being crushed and repressed with speed and k (white CK (speed), gold CK (ket) etc.) . I remember green apples (1998-99) I think they had a little LSD, all I can remember is it was a very trippy pill. When you got a nice import though, fuck you were rolling HARD!!
 
i came to the party kinda late compared to some, as i was far too young to be dropping eccies in the 80s and early/mid 90s, but i caught the tail-end of the 90s ecstasy culture; my first pill was a green mitsubishi in '99. can't say i'm a big fan of mdma; it was a pretty memorable experience but not something i incorporated into my life and treasure like psychedelics.
i haven't a had a pill in 4 or 5 years, can't say i've missed it or noticed the drought, but it seems that the culture around "ecstasy" and club drugs generally has changed an awful lot.
in the late 90s and early 2000s it seemed to me that e was so accepted that a lot of people i knew who otherwise wouldn't take drugs would take it.
people that seemed 'straight' - kids that you could never imagine smoking weed or dropping acid or snorting speed - would take pills.
maybe just the people i knew? it seemed to be fashionable to the point of the social stigma lifting for a lots of different types of people across a lot of different walks of life. a mainstream illegal drug.

it was a fairly safe proposition to take a pill or two in the course of the evening without getting burned and sold dxm, piperazine or other random research chems and end up in a bad way.
ecstasy was mdma (or at least mdxx) and not some horrid cocktail of unknowns masquerading as mdxx.

to me it seems a completely different culture and a completely different scene now. groups of people on MDMA have a totally different energy to a room filled with people on a mix of alcohol, other drugs and stimulants, which is the vibe i get now.
less smiling/gurning/hugging, more aggression/testosterone.

the ecstasy market had a certain innocence (or stability) then, so partakers could be more naive and blase than one needs to be now in order to stay safe.
sure there was plenty of dodginess going on all the same - ketamine or speed pills and no doubt plenty of duds, misrepresentations and adulterants, but the odds were more in your favour; cheap alternatives weren't as easy to come by as they are nowadays.
i may have bought pills 20 or 30 times in my younger days, and only ever got blatantly sold non-mdxx pills once. i'm pretty certain they were ketamine, but i didn't mind as i was just at a chilled house party.
i doubt clueless young kids (like me back then) would have such a good strike rate these days, or at least not in the last 3 years from what i've heard.

it's a shame, but perhaps it is an evolution of drug culture, forcing us to know a bit about what we're taking as to not get burned and spend the next 48 hours hugging a toilet.
we have more people chasing chems specifically by name, rather than a corny label like 'ecstasy' and a candy-coloured pill stamped with a fake corporate logo. maybe an unexpected consequence of the mdma shortage in recent years will be wider knowledge of drugs...unless that role has been taken over by the legal highs market with its "meow meow", "bath salts" etc?
buyer beware, i suppose.
 
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In a way things have come full circle. Back when I started clubbing in the early to mid 90's there were two distinct districts in Brisbane, the City and the Valley. The city was button up shirts and dress shirts tucked in, drinking the night away. The valley was t shirts and trainers, seedy under ground clubs and pills. The two worlds didn't really mix, in fact a lot of the Valley clubs wouldn't let you in with a buttoned up shirt or leather shoes, it took quite an art to dress and be accepted in both parts of the city on a night. The valley of course was fuelled by great quality pills, a little expensive compared to todays standards but one was enough to get you through to the morning.

The pill scene was small and slightly exclusive, by far a much better vibe, as space junk said much more chilled than the alcohol scene of the city. It wasn't difficult to source pills, but it was tricky enough that you valued a good supply and rarely wasted a pill. Little by little people cottoned on. They suddenly wanted to know where the cute girls were going to dance the night away and slowly dropped their defences to the mostly gay clubs that supported the ecstasy scene and started to become involved in the drug scene.

Fast forward ten years or so and everyone is on pills. For a few years everyone was on it, clubs were filled with plur and even the police commented on the lack of violence. Of course eventually the price and quality came down. It was no longer exclusive and fewer people who knew what the real MDMA experience was like were around, most people have come to accept any old high from pills to be "ecstasy"

Now I see good quality MDMA it seems like back at the beginning. You treasure your stash, keep it to select numbers, even deciding to stay home with a few close mates for a night on it rather than mingle with fuck heads on the street. Perhaps market forces will drive the poor quality away, but with the shear volume and number of RC's out their I'm afraid that MDMA will probably remain a "special" drug, with only a few select members with access to it.
 
Next friday I'm planning to candyflip some potent acid and mdma, could someone with experience tell me the best time to delay taking the mdma? When i start tripping should I take the pill?
 
I let the acid take effect first . Some people prefer to take the MDMA at it's peak, I personally prefer to take it slightly after. I like to enjoy the acid first, then give it a lift 4 hours or so in. It also allows you to get your bearings and gives you a chance to pull out if by chance the trip is not going too well. If you take it too early you will be more acutely aware of the comedown from MDMA during that hazy, confusing time of the end of lsd. Either way be prepared to be washed out and more tired than usual.
 
Interesting, I'll keep this in mind, thanks.
I never get heinous comedowns off LSD or MDMA. Bongs seem to just make everything go dreamlike and help me sleep on the down.
 
I've never candy flipped, but I've heard about 2-3 hours into the acid trip is normally the best time to flip.
I've had it described as whilst all the craziness of acid is kicking in, the MDMA gives a moment of extreme clarity and joy.

Definitely something I'd be interested in.
 
Monstersquad, i would take the LSD first, (that is a must) then hold off for as long as you can for the molly, if u can make itti 4 hours like Busty suggested, then that is sweet and will serve u well, but I usually weigh up the MD 3+ h in, as I can't hold if I know I have it on hand..
 
MXE and MDMA make for a nicer kittyflip than K. Low dose MXE 20-30mg + 100mg ish MDMA = bliss!!! Also 2.5-5 mg diaz about 2 hours prior. To kick it up a notch 10-15 mg and no more of GOOD meth about 1 hour prior to mxe/mdma dose. I prefer coke though (if you can get good coke...) and dose this (50-100mg) when the mdma starts to kick in. I have another 50mg dose after about an hour and have 2-3 of these doses for an evening total. Harm reduction here is to do no more than stated dose although if you have not done this before lower the dosages for fuck sake. Also a lot of coke is cut with some kind of adulterant before leaving the port of origin and this shit has caused deaths (DJ AM in the USA) it's some kind of vet medication for animals that has cardiovasculatory stimulatory properties and may potentiate coke. Mixing can be dangerous as fuck especially if you are inexperienced and not aware of your bodies tolerance/limits or any allergies or interactions these drugs may cause you.
 
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