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I've got a question, maybe a health problem related to MDPV use

Since i started with PV, the nostril (right) which i use to insulfflate has started getting a smallish rash growing around the bottom outside of it. I don't know if i could call it a rash, it just looks like a small group of tiny pimples where the skin has dried out heaps

The other nostril is fine, and i have never really snorted through that one

So it lead me to suspicions that it could be the PV use causing it..

Not a heavy user, maybe a little 5-10mg once a week or every two weeks

Does this sort of thing happen with snorting other substances too? Just a normal drug related thing like 'meth mouth'

Cheers
 
^ speaking of which it always amazes me when people use (and share) money to snort substances... pretty unhygenic right? I've taken to cutting out a rectangle of paper from a new notepad to use; I'm not sure if it's a lot cleaner but it gives me slightly more peace of mind than using a note that could have passed through hundreds of unwashed hands...
 
i cut off a bit of a plastic straw.. probably about an inch or two long. use a new one almost every time
 
lewk said:
Since i started with PV, the nostril (right) which i use to insulfflate has started getting a smallish rash growing around the bottom outside of it. I don't know if i could call it a rash, it just looks like a small group of tiny pimples where the skin has dried out heaps
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Could be any number of things. One of which is that the local irritation of the MDPV has lowered the skins ability to resist minor manifestations of the herpes virus...


Time to switch nostils?
 
nanobrain said:
some words: 'Gay Spy Conspiracy'

remember, if you are somewhere amidst the Conspiracy and cant figure out who the Gay Spy is - its You...

so are you with me?
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I'm with you, sometimes I feel like I'm trapped in a queer version of A Scanner Darkly... um, what?
 
psytaco said:
Doesn't sound like something I would like to try. I have difficulty stopping myself from redosing with mephedrone, I would hate to see my will power with MDPV.
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Heh. I have way more willpower with MDPV than Mephedrone. The Euphoria is less intense and drops off very quickly but the side effects are bad enough to stop me exceeding 15mg a day. I've not really had any for about 2 weeks and today I had 5mg insufflated in the morning. I didn't even feel the euphoria. About 3 hours later I put about 12mg in a glass of milk and swigged. Euphoria was noticable but dropped off quickly and now I'm left with stimulation that's pretty irritating.

Butylone offered what I EXPECTED MDPV to offer (confidence, srs stimulation, some paranoia at the tail-end), if this helps anybody else. MDPV offers anehdonia alongside stimulation and of course a side serving of peripheral vasoconstriction. The only positive to MDPV is the apparent lack of hangover, but I believe this is due to the shitty high, and is hardly much of a merit to the substance.

I should point out that this, like all the cathinones, gives me quite strong peripheral vasoconstriction. It's stronger than Butylone by far (not even sure if that really vasoconstricts me), but probably a bit weaker than Mephedrone. Simply. Do not mix these, especially if you're sensitive to the effects like I am.

To give some context 5mg insufflated had me with purple knees an hour later. The following 12mg has caused me to have noticably cold extremeties. I push this point home only for those who value their limbs.

If anybody is thinking of using this, you should have some downers on hand, Xanax is the best but Valium and k-pins etc. are fine too. It's a big insomnia inducer.

My friend has been in hospital twice as a result of using MDPV. He's not "responsible" at all but still, he's used Mephedrone and Methylone in insane quantities and always been okay. MDPV was a different story, 5 day binge ending with him psychotic. Go slow with this one people. Although it's gonna be forgotten about in no time, it only exists because the RC vendors have been trying to find things to satisfy us when Mephedrone withers.
 
I never really noticed any major vasoconstriction, even at 300mg+ in one sitting (don't go there)

Definitely stayed up for many days at a time on multiple occasions and ended up more psychotic than i've been on any other drug binge

Ahhh peeeeeeveeeeeee.... It was good fun to fuck on and that's about all i'll give it these days

Stims are bad news at the best of times and I name this one the ring leader with one hell of a top hat

I found I could eat Xanax bars like candy on it and normally 1mg floors me

Do gay spy's use pink fluffy binoculars or are they just every colour of the rainbow?
 
is there anyone that can offer any knowledge, first hand or other about the injection of mdpv. i am not interested in such, i will possibly insufflate a small dose, was thinkin 5mg or such. am not a big stimulant user any more , but may for curiosity at an event this weekend.

i have been an i.v. user so i have friends who still i.v. and they are wanting to i.v. the ivory wave.
the site i found said epsom salts and other stuff, but im sure thats just packaging. well im not saying they arent in it, just it is obviously mdpv as well. my friend claims to know others that do it as such, and i just want to know if it is safe or do-able at all. as i want to have a good weekend and and dont really want to have to call an ambulance. or heli vac. i think st johns ambods will be there tho.
i dont want my friend hurting themselves, when , it sounds like this stuff is strong anyway just railin it.

any word would be much appreciated.

thankyou.
 
psynapsurfa said:
is there anyone that can offer any knowledge, first hand or other about the injection of mdpv. i am not interested in such, i will possibly insufflate a small dose, was thinkin 5mg or such. am not a big stimulant user any more , but may for curiosity at an event this weekend.

i have been an i.v. user so i have friends who still i.v. and they are wanting to i.v. the ivory wave.
the site i found said epsom salts and other stuff, but im sure thats just packaging. well im not saying they arent in it, just it is obviously mdpv as well. my friend claims to know others that do it as such, and i just want to know if it is safe or do-able at all. as i want to have a good weekend and and dont really want to have to call an ambulance. or heli vac. i think st johns ambods will be there tho.
i dont want my friend hurting themselves, when , it sounds like this stuff is strong anyway just railin it.

any word would be much appreciated.

thankyou.
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I would not inject ivory wave. Theres some discussion of IV'ing MDPV in one of the advanced drug discussion threads (and one user reported it being very common in Helsinki at the moment) however ivory wave (and similar products) are mostly filler, and the purity is pretty much unknown at this stage right? I mean pure MDPV is like <5mg a dose but ivory wave is >50mg a dose...

If they insist on trying this r.o.a. maybe make sure they use a micron filter first?
 
Don't forget that Ivory Wave tested a couple of months ago (both here and OS) also contained pentylone, identified via MS (although I'm not sure whether confirmation with a standard has occurred yet). Still worth taking note of though.
 
Jeez, the aftermath of shulgins experiments with phenethylamines is an amazing ordeal, i really wish they wouldn't throw a blanket ban on all the research put into pihkal because its somewhat psychedelic. It's all relevant to psychiatry and neurochemistry aswell.
 
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thanx guys. i ended up looking into it on the o.s. discussion boards too.
and what i read in some of it , even in the oz boards, has put me off trying insufflating even.

am now not so sure that it is ivory wave, i think that may be just what they are calling it, so i knew what it was. " you know man, that ivory wave bath salt stuff, maaaan" kinda shit.

yeah, uhh, ok.

they claim you only have 5-10 mg max, per dose, so maybe it is the purer stuff.

i cant stop them doing it any r.o.a., i just wanted a little feed back.

from what i read, it seems they do bash this stuff safely, ie, it doesnt burn up viens and make people going nto cardiac arrest.

i dont think me and my addictive nature need to try it that way.

i will observe carefully, before i do anything.especially if the purity is not a surity.

i have san pedro tea for the event, if i want to push things, but am wary even of that at a large event now. at least its middle of nowhere psy.

thanx again guys, much appreciated. let ya know next tuesday i guess.
 
psynapsurfa said:
i have san pedro tea for the event, if i want to push things, but am wary even of that at a large event now. at least its middle of nowhere psy.

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You're going the right way about pushing things if it is MDPV that you have.

Psychs and MDPV are a recipe for total disaster

I have never lost my shit like I did on that combo... Not even close!!!

The combo of MDPV and psychs such as LSD, Phens and mushrooms is a dangerous balancing act. I have seen many trippers fall badly on this one...

Party safe
 
thanx for the concern psilo, and warning.

i should have made that less ambiguous maybe.

i meant that if i felt like pushing things at an event, i would rather just use may san pedro.

but am wary, of pushing it even on psyches, at a large event these days.

i am not , in any fashion, considering the combo of mescaline and mdpv. or any psyches and mdpv.

no thanx. not for e few reasons.

1. never used mdpv before.

2. i only have used mescaline 2 times before.

3.looks like i am going this party alone again. another person, the mdpv guy has pulled plug.yet i am now in possy of a substantial amount of mdpv for my own consumption. and from what i have read about horniness, i dont really feel like bashing my member for three days hidden in my tent alone and frantic without a woman to provide said benefits!!! feel me.? (no pun intended)

4.not sure that i am really interested in the lack of empathetic high.allthough just being awake does have value,

so even tho i do enjoy poly drug use, and am experienced at it, i am experienced enough to go, uh no thanx, not here and now anyways.


have often found the losing stages of stims and psyches to be fun in a twisted sense. but am not keen to do it alone at a big 3dayer.

besides, i also have some copelandi cyanescens. the blueys. and am going to make blue vodka and just sip on that. thats more my style these days for a big social one.

thnx again for the warning. i shall indeed, party safe.
 
Apoligies if this has already been answered, but how do others find the euphoria of MDPV compared to Methamphetamine?

I'm not really a big fan of pure stimulation. Meth doesn't do much for me. How would non-stim lovers rate MDPV euphoria compared to Meth euphoria?

Oh and Psilo, forgotten about lube? :P
 
Can't really say Sameria. Some people prefer meth, others prefer MDPV euphoria. Most people I know absolutely loved MDPV the first 1-3 times and then got over it very quickly...

Lube is my companion, I was just warning him due to a report I read a year or more back where a guy was in serious pain for a week after wanking till he had blisters on an MDPV binge

OUCH! :)
 
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