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From what i have read about MDPV & Mephdrone. I cant understand how MDPV is not more prevalent in Australia considering that Stimulants(Amp/Meth) are one of the more common types of drugs found in Australia.

I moved back to Victoria and met some family that i had not met before and they all liked a dabble in Amphetamines some was offered and i soon realized that it was a waste of money and that i wouldn't bother again.

And then another time some MDPV was offered and i said no and then did some research here and tried a small amount.
Lets say the difference in cost and amount needed was so far apart it wasnt funny.
I actually quite enjoyed myself in a social setting talking shitloads(i also do without drugs) was good for adding a little to the night.

Have since heard that someone thought that if you take triple the amount they get triple the high. Lets say that it wasnt the case.

REALLY NEEDS TO BE TREATED WITH CARE AND NOT OVERDONE THINKING IT IS SOMEOTHER TYPE OF STIMULANT BECAUSE THE SHIT CAN BE VERY STRONG(HEAD & HEART FUCK STRONG:()


Something i may try again in the future. Being a father and family man makes you only do things on a very rare occasion.

This is a great site for getting opinions across the world and deciding what to do and what not to do.

The big problem is the people who should read sites like this dont and watch ACA or TT. I hope this site is still going when my kids are teens and young adults so that i will know what there up to before they get up to it.:D
 
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Discretion is your friend! :)

Welcome to BL breakscat, I too hope that BL is around to educate your children in the future. The world they face lacks drug education and truth.

I tried the temptress that is MDPV once again recently and it only reminded me of why I stopped using it almost a year ago

If you must try it, I compel you not to redose or mix it with psychs. Doing so is a recipe for true mental torture
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
If you must try it, I compel you not to redose or mix it with psychs. Doing so is a recipe for true mental torture
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Mixing MDPV with psyche's is always a bad idea, but I don't really find the drug enjoyable if I don't redose. I usually stop at about day 3 so the comedown isn't as torturess, but up until about 12 hours on it the effects are kind of dull, but that's just snorting, smoking is a different story. That's just me, I've never really had any problems with binging, the crash isn't as bad as I was lead to believe, but lots of alcohol helps tremendously.

But for HR's sake, don't redose :)
 
sorry to act dumb, but I've read you guys saying that you've smoked it and snorted it, but how are the effects swallowing it?
 
Eating it is my prefered method. I've also been told smoking the stuff is VERY bad for yours lungs. Even worse than smoking a ciggy filter! Can't remember exactly what it does bit some thing along the lines of bleeding lungs! Psilo will be able to clear it up better than I.
 
I've only had single 16-20 mg doses at a time, no redoses. To me it makes me feel really focused and contempt. Euphoria to a point but different to meth. I personally can't compare it to meth, as i've only had it a handful of times and never any mote than .5gm of an entire night. Never smoked it either. Really different highs from what I've experienced though. Personally prefer mdpv.
 
heythatsmybike said:
Eating it is my prefered method. I've also been told smoking the stuff is VERY bad for yours lungs. Even worse than smoking a ciggy filter! Can't remember exactly what it does bit some thing along the lines of bleeding lungs! Psilo will be able to clear it up better than I.
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There has been some debate about the effects of smoking pyrrolidine, which is a common impurity in MDPV. Usually this impurity is around 2% and smoking the MDPV, as with smoking anything else, is going to be bad for your lungs with or without pyrrolidine.

pyrrolidine MSDS:

Chronic Effects on Humans: The substance is toxic to kidneys, the nervous system, liver.
Other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Very hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of ingestion.
Hazardous in case of skin contact (permeator), of inhalation.
Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (corrosive).

Some related reading
Washing MDPV to Remove Pyrrolidine
 
Oral dosing is pretty weak and a waste IMO(depending what you're using it for), but if you're afraid you can't control yourself with it than oral is the way to go. I personally prefer snorting because controlling myself with this ROA is easy for me, smoking it really puts your self control to the test and I can't stop until the bags gone. Meth is MUCH better IMO, MDPV euphoria is laughable in comparison to a good hit of meth but when smoking MDPV the rush is unexpectedly intense
 
^ I am yet to try smoking but from all accounts it is quite intense. Will have to smoke up some of the little bit I have left. I agree with you that meth is much more euphoric, but MDPV is more considerably cost effective (I imagine) and in reality is easily good enough to go out and have a good time on.
 
^ Definitely more cost effective and definitely good enough to be on forever :)
I only mentioned meth as a comparison because it was asked a few posts up what the rush was like(too lazy to click quote),I would consider MDPV as one of my favourite stimulants and for good reason, even though it is relatively weak when you're not binging on it :)
 
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slipknot1 said:
can it be lethal i mean overdose easily?
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MDPV is the least toxic of all the pyrovalerone derivatives and isn't as neurotoxic as say MDMA.

I am unsure of it's LD50 but enough of anything can and will kill you.

Unless you were to take a single large toxic dose I doubt many people could handle the side effects enough to redose until they died from MDPV

Being a stimulant it could kill you in ways other than toxic shock. Heart failure for example
 
slipknot1 said:
are the effects similiar to rushing hard on ice/speed? is there a euphoric rush at all?
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I find that pv lacks the 'rush' which I love about a good puff of ice. Though you do get a rush from smoking pv tends it tends to be more of a physical feeling of over stimulation rather than a positive, euphoric rush. Smoking pv is so easy to overdo too I've found, two small puffs and I've been bugging out reaching for the xanax.

About an hour after smoking it it tends to settle down into a nice high, though a still prefer snorting for a smoother, more enjoyable feeling. I'm just addicted to that damn glass dick!

I definitely found that mdpv is comparable to meth if done right. It gives a nice, smooth, sociable euphoria, on your first session. Redosing just makes it turn shit really quick.
 
^ Definately agree with you on the lack of a rush compared to meth, although smoking I can't comment on.

I doubt theres many people out there who would prefer MDPV over meth, although I am sure they do exist. The thing is there are a few distinct advantages of MDPV like being cheap, alot quicker and easier to dose than sitting around a pipe all night and I would guess drug dogs aren't trained to look for it.
 
phase_dancer said:
Apart from anecdotal reports, is there any research/publications that support this?
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You're right P_D, t's all anecdotal

MDPV has little effect on serotonergic systems and I'd say this is where the claims of it being less neuro toxic than MDMA come from

I can not find a link with anything more than anecdotal evidence but I will keep researching to see what I can come up with

I know it didn't do my brain any good when I was fiending it in 08/09

Have you heard of any studies on these chemicals that I may not know about?

Please enlighten us ;)
 
No Psilo, I haven't heard of any studies, thus my question. I did have a look, thinking something knew may have missed my attention, but all I could find were user reports, etc.
 
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