The MDPV discussion thread comes to Australia !

[Jakeperson]

Also the rate of people being fooled by unscrupulous dealers selling MDPV as MDMA/MDxx still and using the excuse that it doesn't look or smell like mephedrone so it must be MDxx. Please people beware, be safe and reagent test if possible.

xShiv

+1. Pretty sure this has happened to me

 

[Dedbeet]

Anyone come across MDPV crystals?

Fwiw I haven't, just the standard stuff (ain't it potent enough as it is? chuckling...).

 

[Svenghouli]

Hi everybody!!!

Long time reader and thought I would jump in on this thread.

I tried pv for the first time on the weekend. Was very cautious as I try to be with new things - bombed 5mg just to see if there were any affects I should be concerned about, then after a while smoked 15mg with a few 10mg top ups each hour afterwards. Just a tester - smoking definitely works well. The high was pretty good, nice and buzzy similar to MDMA but seemed to be very short lived. As soon as the high was over I quickly felt like not talking to anyone and wanted to be off - until topping up again.

The come down was certainly not so fun with what felt like burning muscles in my neck/shoulders. It felt like I constantly needed to stretch which was probably making it worse. I have felt this way before with so called ecstasy pills that my pals and I ended up nicknaming red aborts.

Has anyone else had the same burning in the neck and shoulders? The jury is still out as to whether I really like it or not.

Cheers all, stay safe,
S.

 

[mcwally]

this is officially the first drug I have ever flushed

I had a very bad heart scare on this which may turn out to have been a heart attack. I had an ECG done and it shows an arrythmia, I am having another ECG to see if it is still there and going from there probably further investigation like ct scan. It must be said that it was a combination but as you will see no doubt the MDPV that was the main contributor. I had taken about 4 doses of 15 mg over say 6 hours, I wanted to sleep by then and got my medicine bottle that has halves and quarters of tablets like xanax, valium, seroquel, cialis etc. I got em all out and took what I thought was about a half a 100 seroquel. Not long later I started thinking wtf is happening heart racing and pounding insanely and I lay down. Next thing I know I wake was only about 15mins later and I feel shocking angina impending doom physical sensations around the heart and aorta. There was no phone within reach and standing or even moving my torso was absolutely out of the question. This is when I started thinking wtf was that seriously seroquel?? I then started to think oh fuck.....I then realised it could have been the Cialis, same tan colour half tab....Tbh that realisation wasn't that scary because I was already in the throws of an acute heart event that has yet to be categorised and damage yet to be seen.

I was at my apartment alone so lying there totally at the mercy of whatever was happening inside of me was rather terrifying, with no phone in reach. I lay there saying my goodbyes to family and friends thinking very logically that at any moment I would suffer a myocarial infarction or a stroke. As an hour or 2 passed still lying there essentially immobilised in the same state I began wondering do I lie here and risk expiring in this very spot or do I go for the phone and risk heart failure in the quest of 2 metres away, but it mayaswell have been 10 miles away. I made attempts at pulling/pushing myself but any large leg movement intensified things scarily so I had to just ride it out. About 4 hours passed and it gradually subsided and I could move around slowly. Now I am not that great mentally with depression and anxieties but I will swear on my mothers grave that was no anxiety attack which I have had to varying degrees. And after I was recovering I didn't phone an ambo and took me 4 days to get to a doctor, I know thats really stupid but I am not always a rational being and have some self destructive tendencies and general uncaring attitide to my health due to depression.

SO ANYONE READING THIS PLEASE DO NOT MIX MDPV WITH CIALIS OR VIAGRA! You do not want to experience this, I am not saying you will but you run the risk. I am unsure of the specific pathway leading to such cardiac danger but the answer must lie in the severe vasoconrtiction of MDPV and the sudden drop in bloodpressure from vasodilation on cialis leading to unknown compensatory adjustments in heart rate and blood pressure.

 

[immad]

^I've mixed cialis with MDPV a few times and it was nothing out of the ordinary. Maybe 4 times 15 mg in 6 hours is just too much?

 

[misk]

i'd say its a fair poor idea keeping such a random scope of pills in the same bottle...
hope you recover though buddy.

 

[nanobrain]

easy as. proximity flying in a jetpowered wingsuit should provide a suitable replacement rush for the Pervert Powder afficionado. for i have a feeling he's tried oh just about everything else. good luck to him. hey meybe uncle Dave Nichols has a better answer?

 

[L3inad]

So how do I get an educated, highly intelligent beautiful soul off this shit and back onto his path? All honestly is appreciated but please don't tell me to just leave him alone until he hits rock bottom because this has been going on for 8 years and he isn't in his 20's anymore. I do also realise this isn't my problem but I would like to try to understand the experience I have just had and make sense of this drug.
Thanks in advance

To be honest, its a decision he really has to make for himself. All you can do is encourage him to move in a positive direction.

Outline the positives and negatives of quitting, and make sure they stand out. Stress the point that after quitting - things do get better.

As time goes by receptors are able to up-regulate again and slowly return to normal, meaning he'll be able to function/be sociable etc without the use of MDPV. But to do that you need to quit in the first place. And you can be damn sure thats not going to happen unless they want to do it for themselves.

Try and encourage a new type of reward pathway. Instead of hitting the pipe as a reward for a good days work or whatever, try something else. Could be anything from eating out to sex - even other drugs?

Best of luck, never tried it. But I hear its more of a bitch to kick than other stims.

 

[nanobrain]

As time goes by receptors are able to up-regulate again and slowly return to normal, meaning he'll be able to function/be sociable etc without the use of MDPV.

um. yep. and you just keep on believing that matey, after all Sandy Claws is real, right Virginia?

4E4 DA receptors in the S. Nigra at birth. attrition, aging, apoptosis, mutations, permanent downregulation. but i bet his 3 remaining DA neurons are survivors and bulletproof, thanks to the Superfoil Anti-ULF Helmet(TM) which uses virtual dark energy antiparticles to ward off nasty technogenic pollution and makes your urine smell like Chanel No. 5.

 

[footscrazy]

^ Why didn't you tell me I could get my Chanel No. 5 so cheaply, Nano! For lack of knowledge, Ive been smelling like Britney Spears!

 

[L3inad]

um. yep. and you just keep on believing that matey, after all Sandy Claws is real, right Virginia?

I will Doesnt happen overnight but it does happen, if it didnt why would anyone ever quit the pipe?

4E4 DA receptors in the S. Nigra at birth. attrition, aging, apoptosis, mutations, permanent downregulation. but i bet his 3 remaining DA neurons are survivors and bulletproof, thanks to the Superfoil Anti-ULF Helmet(TM) which uses virtual dark energy antiparticles to ward off nasty technogenic pollution and makes your urine smell like Chanel No. 5.

Bulletproof dopamine neurons? Where the fuck do I get one of these helmets!?

 

[aya76]

Thanks for your input, yes I agree it's certainly not my decision and if anything it's probably a very scary prospect for my friend to even entertain. But I have no doubt in time every thing will workout as it should.
I would certainly reward him with sex however after having sex on mdvp I don't see how it could be better without it, for him of course. I guess one can only make suggestions...

 

[aya76]

um. yep. and you just keep on believing that matey, after all Sandy Claws is real, right Virginia?

4E4 DA receptors in the S. Nigra at birth. attrition, aging, apoptosis, mutations, permanent downregulation. but i bet his 3 remaining DA neurons are survivors and bulletproof, thanks to the Superfoil Anti-ULF Helmet(TM) which uses virtual dark energy antiparticles to ward off nasty technogenic pollution and makes your urine smell like Chanel No. 5.

Thanks for your input..I'm certain my friend has more than 3 DA neurons left but if not, no doubt that Superfoil hat you speak of will protect what is left Oh and thank you for that info on 4E4 DA receptors, permanent downregulation etc, full on but interesting stuff.

Unfortunately David Nicholls wasn't much help, but I have found someone in Melbourne who is and once I get the information I need I will no doubt pass it onto my friend who hopefully can see that I am not being malicious and am only doing this because I care.

 

[footscrazy]

^ It must have been cut if the line you did was the size of a dexie crushed up - only mentioning it in case someone sees that and decides to do that much of pure/stronger stuff, because with pure pv, no more than 15mg up the nose is a good way to start.

 

[MDPig]

Anyone come across MDPV crystals?

I have seen batches of a more 'crystallized' PV. Standard i've seen over the last few years has been an off-colour fine, white powder but the more crystalline batches seem to have the same potencey (But have a far more cathinone odour.)

I freebase all my PV with lye which cleans out the sh*t and increases potency enormously!

 

[Jakeperson]

I found a little over 5mg is a perfectly fine starting place. Dunno if any more would be any better, only tried once (snorting).

 

[AFA]

BJH the mdpv you have access to, must be cut very highly as theres no way you can be doing a point to a point and a half in a line. its like 12x dosage.

 

[BJH]

BJH the mdpv you have access to, must be cut very highly as theres no way you can be doing a point to a point and a half in a line. its like 12x dosage.

Well I don't know what it looks like in it's pure form, but this stuff is a porcelain white powder. The last batch I got had an off-white tinge to it nd a couple of tiny black flecks here and there, but the stuff I picked up yesterday is pure white and kinda smells like lavender? Seems each time I get it there are tiny differences but always has the same/very similar potency.

 

[AFA]

if i where you i would find a new vendor, the stuff your getting sounds very cut and inconsistent.
pv is usually in a powder form, off white color and VERY slight chalky clumplyness to it. certainly no black specks and not smelling like lavender.
the smell is usually a slight cathinone / chemically odor.

just please be careful dosing that stuff BJH, i if you cant get another supplier and you continue using this one i would suggest bumps of no bigger than 10mg at a time.

 

[BJH]

if i where you i would find a new vendor, the stuff your getting sounds very cut and inconsistent.
pv is usually in a powder form, off white color and VERY slight chalky clumplyness to it. certainly no black specks and not smelling like lavender.
the smell is usually a slight cathinone / chemically odor.

just please be careful dosing that stuff BJH, i if you cant get another supplier and you continue using this one i would suggest bumps of no bigger than 10mg at a time.

It still has a chemical smell to it, and definitely chemical taste. I haven't snorted the latest stuff yet but it has always been pretty easy on the nose. It only ever goes clumpy if I leave it in a bag for a long time or if its put under pressure. Otherwise its texture is almost like flour. I'm not too bothered by the inconsistencies or the fact its cut because they are pretty minor and for the price/service I'm getting I can't complain. Thanks for your concern and advice though.