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Mr Blonde said:
^ Don't know if we are getting the same stuff, but the Molly I've seen going around is most definitely MDMA. Beautiful stuff, I wasn't expecting it to be that potent so dosed ~200mg and was WAY out of it. Someone was saying to me that it usually seems it's this time of year that the MDMA quality increases.
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yeah i obtained a rather large bag with tips :D everyone i shared it with said it was definitely real deal, and it put me on my ass ( in a good way.) however the person i got it off mentioned that it was not?

edit: with this its probably a very good idea to measure your dose carefully.. thought id throw some HR in.
 
Gahl!! thread de-railed much?!?! can anyone answer my quieten? how much cafinee should i add to a 150mg cap of molly for VERY MILD stimulation??Also is it risky mixing methylone and mdma?If so what risks are involved?What dosage?
 
^ I'm not really sure about the caffeine, I would have thought that caffeine is probably a mild enough stim that the mdma would overpower it, especially if you're a regular coffee/energy drink/coke drinker. I've also never experienced mdma that has made me uncontrollably want to sleep. I've felt 'munty' and relaxed and sedated and happy to sit in my own little world of happiness but I've always been able to keep awake if I want to. Not saying it's bs, just saying it's completely unfamiliar to me.

I don't see any point in mixing methylone and mdma since they're very similar, methylone is an analogue of mdma - beta ketone mdma. I can't see that mixing the 2 would give any benefit over just doing mdma by itself, but it may raise the risks. Methylone has a slightly higher dose than mdma, I've found maybe 150-200mg methylone for 100mg mdma (pure amounts). I would just stick to one or the other.

Like I said earlier, I've always found methylone a wonderful substance and very similar to mdma, in fact I doubt I'd be able to tell them apart on a blind sample. I've known others to say methylone 'lacks' something mdma has though.
 
A girl I went to school with fell asleep on her first ever pill, confirmed MDMA although I can't actually remember the stamp, would of been back around '06 IIRC. I had never heard of it happening before or since though until it was mentioned in this thread.
 
junkie skumbag said:
Gahl!! thread de-railed much?!?! can anyone answer my quieten? how much cafinee should i add to a 150mg cap of molly for VERY MILD stimulation??Also is it risky mixing methylone and mdma?If so what risks are involved?What dosage?
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Well that depends on ya tolerance to MDMA and caffeine and weight.
Some of the best pills were just mdma and caffeine eg. red mitz and people were ODin from them.
I did have one batch that had PMA in it, what a shit chem some people get really smashed on PMA but i find its just a warm overheating drunkenness with no love or magic. Note i have had pure PMA as well.
 
footscrazy said:
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I don't see any point in mixing methylone and mdma since they're very similar, methylone is an analogue of mdma - beta ketone mdma. I can't see that mixing the 2 would give any benefit over just doing mdma by itself, but it may raise the risks. Methylone has a slightly higher dose than mdma, I've found maybe 150-200mg methylone for 100mg mdma (pure amounts). I would just stick to one or the other.

Like I said earlier, I've always found methylone a wonderful substance and very similar to mdma, in fact I doubt I'd be able to tell them apart on a blind sample. I've known others to say methylone 'lacks' something mdma has though.
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I find bk-mdma more of a "cokey" (hate to use that phrase) dopamine md while mdma is more serotonin.
also depends on how u take it as well. i dont see why not take them together maybe take the mdma first then the methylone a few hours in
 
footscrazy said:
^ I'm not really sure about the caffeine, I would have thought that caffeine is probably a mild enough stim that the mdma would overpower it, especially if you're a regular coffee/energy drink/coke drinker. I've also never experienced mdma that has made me uncontrollably want to sleep. I've felt 'munty' and relaxed and sedated and happy to sit in my own little world of happiness but I've always been able to keep awake if I want to. Not saying it's bs, just saying it's completely unfamiliar to me.

I don't see any point in mixing methylone and mdma since they're very similar, methylone is an analogue of mdma - beta ketone mdma. I can't see that mixing the 2 would give any benefit over just doing mdma by itself, but it may raise the risks. Methylone has a slightly higher dose than mdma, I've found maybe 150-200mg methylone for 100mg mdma (pure amounts). I would just stick to one or the other.

Like I said earlier, I've always found methylone a wonderful substance and very similar to mdma, in fact I doubt I'd be able to tell them apart on a blind sample. I've known others to say methylone 'lacks' something mdma has though.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!
I've tested it with mandelin and marquis both show up as mdma so im pretty sure it is mdma.Should have the full test kits in a week or 2......I have fallen asleep on mdma many times haha i think its just me.I dont want to feel any effect from the cafinee i just dont wanna fall asleep again lol.2 people who have had this molly seem to think its MDEA but blue to purple to black on mandelin indicates MDMA.Right?and the empathy is through the roof i have only just got into molly i was a big pill head back in the day when they contained mdma im guess im used to them containg some sort of upper to go with the mdxx :\
 
drug_FUCKED said:
I find bk-mdma more of a "cokey" (hate to use that phrase) dopamine md while mdma is more serotonin.
also depends on how u take it as well. i dont see why not take them together maybe take the mdma first then the methylone a few hours in
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i wasnt thinking of taking much m1 just enough to stimulate me in replacement of caffeine.Think i'll just stick a quarter of a no doz in a 150mg cap n see how i go. :)
 
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Adding methylone will probably just increase dopamine and norepinephrine levels, which with MDMA I personally would not want. I mean, a little bit extra stimulation is good but I really need to watch how I treat my brain these days. :)
 
TIPS that i gathered from actual research and medical studies + own experience.. No bro-science or hearsay here!

- Take piracetam post roll (no comedown whatsoever) proven to combat neurotoxicity (Pre loading seems to make MDMA more energetic)
- Dont take over 300mg a night (If you need more you have taken too much in too little time OR its bunk molly)
- Postload with R-ALA + Vitamin C + E and a good multivit
- DONT take any stimulant with MDMA not even caffeine. Most of the horrible comedowns and neurological damage are because of this combo NOT the MDMA itself. : http://www.pa2online.org/abstracts/Vol3Issue4abst069P.pdf There is also some info on this on www.mdma.net

-Taking quercetin an hour before + taking the Molly with grapefruit juice is 10-15 % more used MDMA in your system. (inhibits certain enzymes in your liver)
- Take a large dose of vitamins and antioxidants before your roll to limit oxidative stress.
- Taking Gingko the week after you roll also helps your recovery (natural MAO-B)

I find taking 5-HTP is not needed when following the advice i posted here and will only be bad for you in the longrun.


Keep 6-12 weeks between each roll to make sure you recover completely.. If you must roll more often try to stick to pure molly and keep it @ 150mg for the night so you dont completely drain your serotonin levels.


Best way to dose according to Shulgin and many others: 120-150 mg (my personal sweet spot) followed by 40-50 mg 1.5 hours later.. Ive also rolled on 200 + 100 1.5 hours later and besides from Jawclenching and extra trouble handling my phone i only had more meth like effects and none of the extra euphoria.. So now i never go over 250 in one night..
 
Fieldy said:
^ i have only fallen asleep once coming up on a roll years ago, woke up gurning like a mofo, good times. I'm glad mdma is back around the place and we all need to share the PLUR it brings!
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Haha. this happened to a friend of mine at a club a few years ago. he had just ingested a green scorpian (reasonably potent pill of 2009) but decided he needed to take a shit. he ended up passing out on the toilet due to too much booze and being tired.

I looked everywhere for him at the club, and tried calling him. Eventually went home due to a booty call. He eventually called me to tell me he woke up peaking his arse off, and ended up staying at the club by himslef for the next 3 hours.
 
junkie skumbag said:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!
I've tested it with mandelin and marquis both show up as mdma so im pretty sure it is mdma.Should have the full test kits in a week or 2......I have fallen asleep on mdma many times haha i think its just me.I dont want to feel any effect from the cafinee i just dont wanna fall asleep again lol.2 people who have had this molly seem to think its MDEA but blue to purple to black on mandelin indicates MDMA.Right?and the empathy is through the roof i have only just got into molly i was a big pill head back in the day when they contained mdma im guess im used to them containg some sort of upper to go with the mdxx :\
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no tester can tell you if what you have is mdma, they can only tell you that its either mdma/mda/mdea or like chem. Its been many years since i owned testers i had mandelin and the sim/roperdope (excuse the spelling). If the sim went blue, it indicated that it probably contained mdma, the roperdope would give a red indication if the secondary chemical contained an amphet substance or the primary was mda. so mandelin - dark purple or black = mdxx, sims - blue= prob mdma, no indication = def not mdma, roperdope - red (with no indication for simms) = prob mda
 
another problem with relying on testers or here say that what you have bought is mdma, is that unlike in the 90s and the early 2000s when the xtc texters where made, there wasnt a problem with research chemicals like there is today. Black on mandelin meant it was most prob mdma or at least mda or mdea. Now the same indication doesnt garrentee its even an md chem. Id like to see what bk-mdma gives for simmons and roperdope, and also mdai etc. There is a resurgance for mdma in aust, and it seems to be getting commmon to find someone selling mdma caps or molly. I believe that most of whats going around would be mda (locally made). The cooks atm seem to be happy makeing the crude pressure cooker style mdxx that generally produces mda or mdma (diiferent form)
 
opi8 said:
Am I the only person who found MDMA (in the early naughties, in particular the white hearts) to cause extreme anxiety and paranoia in public? I was really into speed at this time.

I don't like weed because it makes me extremely paranoid and anxious, plus I get lost in my head usually thinking really dark, negative thoughts. Is it possible that this is related?
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one of my mates would get paranoid on e's too. Totally think coppers were after him.
 
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footscrazy said:
Like I said earlier, I've always found methylone a wonderful substance and very similar to mdma, in fact I doubt I'd be able to tell them apart on a blind sample. I've known others to say methylone 'lacks' something mdma has though.
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Please tell me you're joking!? Im not discrediting Methylone but hand me a pure sample of both and MDMA blows it out of the water and into the outfield. Pure MDMA cannot be matched, IME no comedown, no scatter, no bullshit just pure euphoria. MDMA cannot be beaten by RC's.

People talking about adding Caffeine to MDMA caps are nuts, MDMA is a "sit at home and munt out drug", if you want to be goin nuts at a club smash some meth, MDMA isn't the drug for it. It is best enjoyed with a few close mates and mad beats.
 
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